You're The Producer Of The Superman Reboot

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  1. Excel

    Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay

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    Everybody seems to have a take on everything-casting, directing, look. how to make the film successful, what the movie should be about, ect. This is kind of those all in one. Imagine you are the Producer of the next Superman film, and you are starting from scratch. Like recent successful reboots, this is going to revitalize and invent Superman for a new audience while aiming to keep it the same classic character thats been very popular for nearly 75 years. This is the culmination of all the little things weve talked about into creating the big picture. You have 2 tasks:

    1st and foremost, to make a quality film that both average moviegoers and the die hard fans will enjoy. This is where the film makers and actors come into play; sets, costumes, look, ect.

    2nd, you need to worry about how much money your going to spend as well as much money your going to make. How to get the most bang for buck. It wouldnt be logical to cast Tom Hanks as Jor-el along with Johnny Depp as Luthor with Spielberg directing; not only is it totally impossible but much too expensive. This goes covers everything from marketing to release; spinning stories so the buzz is as good as it is big, ect.

    Take us through step by step of how you would do it. How would you make the greatest Superman film ever, and how would you make financially successful? The entire idea is aimed at making audiences forget about Superman Returns, much like BB did to B&R, CR to DAD, ect.

    Ill start mine here; I wont do everything at once because that would just make it boring; Ill do the 1st 3 big announcements now, in the order I would have the come, with a time frame/date. Just to spice it up a bit and make this a bit different than the standard "Your in charge thread", when I announce my picks, Ill do 2 things: Write as if your reading it as an announcement on say, the Hype! Mainpage, and than offer a 2nd paragraph offering insight into my decision.

    Caruso wasnt my 1st choice, however he makes the most sense. It came down to him, Chris Columbus, and Francis Lawrence. While the latter 2 have had more box office success and have worked with W.B. more in the past, I dont feel either were right for Superman. I am Legends success was due almost entirely to Will Smiths presence, and I dont like his look for Superman. Columbus has experience with huge projects and W.B., but I wanted to get somebody who was *about* to hit it big, not somebone who already has. That way, Superman can be this persons real pet franchise, the way Bats is for Nolan, Spidey is for Raimi, ect. Carusos made to solid, well made films that have become hits based on the matiriel he produced. His style, which is serious while still corwd pleasing rather flat out epic, fits the style I want the Superman project to have perfectly.

    The 1st piece of real news is crucial. In order to avoid the problems that hindered past Superman projects, I decided adding a big name star to it was the real key to jump starting the project. His resume and talent speaks for itself, but adding Hanks to the project brings instant legitamacy and star power to the film, as well as instant buzz and attention. His name onboard virtually assures the project gets made, and makes other actors probably take a 2nd look at a film they otherwise wouldnt have considered, much like the effect Nicholson had on Batman, or Brando on Superman. Plus, Hanks is perfect for the kind of Jor-el I wish to portray. A brilliant, level headed thinker who the strong silent type of leader that people (aka audiences) can rally around. To avoid killing the budget, Hanks would signed to a back end deal where he recieves film projects, in this case, to sign him, we would offer 10% of the world wide projects, or basically a minimum of 25 million.

    Ok, maybe an bit unoriginal, but he's been my fave for the role forever. He's at the perfect part of his carreer to take on the role. I also opted for Mid May because its an empty weekend before Memorial day. Plus, word is Batman 3 will open in July, so to avoid that, May is ideal.


    Ok so here the cast, complete with quick bios of the folks you dont know.

    The Cast and crew:
    Director: D.J. Caruso
    Producer: XL
    Score: Hans Zimmer
    Special Effects: Scott Farrar
    Cinematography: Dariusz Wolski
    Production Design: Thomas Sanders
    Art: Kevin Kavanaugh
    -Henry Cavill as Superman
    -Rose Byrne as Lois Lane
    -Ralph Fiennes as Lex Luthor
    -Tom Hanks as Jor-el
    -Jason Isaacs as Brainiac
    -Bradley cooper as Lord Havoc: Lord Havoc is an ageless alien bounty hunter who was brought in Brainiac and trained as his top commander.
    -Alex Baldwin as Perry White
    -Michael Cera as Jimmy Olsen
    -Maura Tierney as Martha Kent
    -Edward Burns as Jonathan Kent
    -Kevin Dunn as Dean Sutton: Sutton is an 50 year old new Military officer who works in the Pentagon.
    -David Morse as Dunn: Dunn is one of Luthors right hand men. Mercy gets things done at work and on the side, Dunn is only on the side, if you get what I am saying.
    -Selma Blair as Mercy: Luthor assistant
    -Victor Garber as Rex Reason: Head of Lexcorps Apollo Project

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    It would be that pose and same costume, but set amongst a cloudless, gorgeous blue sky. Cavills hairdo would be a lot like this:

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    Continued here:
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  2. griffolyon12

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    I like the idea of this thread. Here's my go:

    First I want the film to be a full on reboot, retelling Superman's origin from the beginning. The story would draw from many various references, ranging from Superman: Birthright to Smallville, all the way back to the original Superman: The Movie; then I'd add my own spin and flavor on top of all that. The story would be told in a similar fashion to BB, in that it'd utilize flashbacks to show Superman's origin, from Krypton to his time in Smallville. The present day segments at the beginning will be set in Africa, much like Birthright. The reasoning for his traveling the world is because he felt guilty after the death of his father and wishes to forget of his existence as Clark Kent and simply try to hide from his destiny. So we'd start with a Clark unwilling to accept his true destiny, and then over the course through his time in Africa he learns that he must become the hero he is meant to be by assuming the persona of a symbol.

    Ma Kent will make his costume and then he goes to Metropolis. The villain will be Lex Luthor. In the film Luthor and Lois will have a relationship till the end when Lois sees Lex as evil. In the film Luthor will be portrayed as an underground terrorist who hides behind the corporate businessman facade. Lex has developed a new weapon he plans to sell to terrorists and will use Metropolis as the demonstration, of course once Supes arrives he realizes that Superman must be destroyed before he unfurls his scheme. So Lex begins a series of plots to demoralize Superman and make him fail. Of course Supes bounces back and saves the day from Luthor.

    Now the film will not focus too much on the romance between Lois and Supes. We'll see that they are both attracted to one another through their various meetings, but neither will act upon their emotions till the sequel. They're portrayed in this film more as friends who want to love one another, but are afraid how that'll affect their friendship.

    Most importantly though the film will remember that Superman is fun. In terms of overall tone, think something along the line of the first two Spider-man films or Iron Man.

    Now the look of Metropolis would be modeled after modern day New York, but bigger. Buildings taller and far grander in scale. The Daily Planet building be art deco in style. The newsroom be huge, with a ceiling maybe forty feet tall with large outlooking windows. The suit be a fine balance between the STM suit and the SR suit. Not as bright or flimsy looking as the STM suit, but not as dark as the SR one, and the belt will resemble the one from STM.

    That's how I see the film and its story. Now on to the cast and crew.

    Director: Myself. I'm a film student and it is a dream of mine to someday make a Superman film. I'm entitled to dream big, aren't I. Also there are many directors/producers nowadays.

    Cast: Clark Kent/Superman - Unknown. There is not a known actor out there right now that I think would make a good Superman, still if the studio pressured me for an established actor for the role, I don't mind the idea of Henry Cavill or Josh Hartnett. I still don't think that either of those two though would be perfect, neither have that naivety that the role of Superman and Clark need to require.

    Lois Lane - Rose Byrne. The key here is to find an actress that has good screen presence and can hold her own against the most powerful man in the world. She seems tailor made for this part, she's got the looks, and definitely has the ability to portray the character. Second choice, Keri Russell.

    Lex Luthor - Jon Hamm. While he already played Lex in that brilliant funny or die video, I think given serious material he'd make a terrific Lex. Just watch Mad Men and that's all the convincing one needs to see whether or not he could play this role. Not to mention the fact that I'd like to see him attempt a role as sinister as Lex. Plus his age would fit better than just about any other actor with how I want Lex portrayed. Second choice, Jason Isaacs.

    Jimmy Olsen - Paul Rust. He definitely has the look, and he is not so well known to where he wont upstage the leads. Not to mention he has terrific comedic timing. Now while he is nearly thirty years old, he looks nearly ten years younger than he is. Second choice, Anton Yelchin. Third choice, Michael Cera.

    Perry White - Hugh Laurie. I've wanted him to be Perry ever since I first heard he was cast in SR. If anyone needs convincing just watch House and you'll see why he'd just be perfect for the part.

    Martha Kent - Kyra Sedgwick. She has the look and the ability, not to mention the fact that just like Ma Kent she has the perfect amount of spunk.

    Jonathan Kent - Dennis Quaid. He's likable, looks the part, and has the chops. Also he'd match Kyra very well on screen. Second choice, Kevin Costner.

    Jor-El - Johnny Depp. It's no secret that he's a terrific actor, but he has the right amount of gravitas to tackle a role as legendary as Jor-El.

    Lara - Catherine Zeta Jones. She'd match Johnny real well on screen, but also she has the right amount of grace and integrity to portray the character.

    Director of Photography: Bruno Delbonnel. His color schemes would be perfect for Superman.

    Composer: Michael Giacchino. I've been a huge fan of his music since before Star Trek, but if Star Trek's score doesn't convince you that he could do Superman, you're crazy. I would not like to utilize the classic Superman theme till the end of the film, when Superman foils Luthor's plot. I feel that Superman must earn that theme, he shouldn't just be given it straight out of the gate. The whole film is the how and why Clark must become this symbolic hero, and he does not become 100% sure that he can be the hero he is supposed to be until the very end.

    That's it. Let me know what you'll think.
     
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  3. Blackman

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    Lol nice thread. If I was the producer it would go something like this

    Usually I'm against picking a choice just based on clips, but the clips for Moon have blown me away. That's why I chose Duncan Jones as a potential director. He is relatively new, not huge names which remind me of Nolan and Faverau before thy made their respective superhero films.

    get mad
     
  4. Webhead2006

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    Very good idea on this thread. I cant wait to see what others have to say. I might throw my ideas in here soon myself when i can set things up. You had some interesting casting choices and i like alot of them. One thing though this "lord havoc" character you mentioned would he be a totally original made character?
     
  5. Excel

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    Pretty much, though hes essentially your standard physical villain.
     
  6. griffolyon12

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    Alec Baldwin is a good choice for Perry that I never real thought of before. Rose Byrne is a great choice, she was originally my second choice for Lois, but for age reasons I decided to make her my first. Personally I feel that Ralph Fiennes looks a little too old to play Lex alongside such a younger cast, but that's just me. I too thought Michael Cera would make a great Jimmy, but I feel that he is too recognizable, and he might upstage the other actors playing Clark and Lois because of that fact.
     
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    ah ok i was thinking that and wanted to see what you said. I might make a post soon on my idea i just need to think of/look up some actors.
     
  8. Ultimate_Superman

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    In other words let me go to SaveSuperman.com and ask Steve who he would cast first then I re post it.
     
  9. NotFadeAway

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    Nice thread idea, and I'm excited to play this game. But this is how I'm going to do it. I'm only going to give bits and pieces of information every couple of posts, similiar to how it would be in the real world. And as a spoiler, I will end my Superman producer storyline with the announcement of several actors who will audition for the role, and then I will leave you hanging. And for the purposes of this thread, the person who I will refer to as William Aries happens to be myself. Side note, William Aries has been an alias I have used since 4th grade. My middle name is William, and I'm an Aries. Give me a break, I was in 4th grade and it stuck. Anyway.......

    MAY 19TH, 2009.

    "Out of left field, exciting news broke today from Warner Brothers studio's. Writer/Producer Ronald D. Moore has been brought onboard the Superman franchise alongside William Aries, and together the two will reboot legendary superhero with an origin film focusing on the first appearences and adventures of the Man of Steel. Moore has previously reboot and retold the acclaimed Battlestar Galactica, and has also written and produced for Star Trek Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Roswell, and Carnivale. Some still that despite the well deserved attention recieved by the J.J. Abrams reboot of that particular franchise, Moore was the greatest writer to come through, and his screenplay for Star Trek: First Contact helped that movie become one of Treks finest big screen adaptions. Joining Moore will be relative unknown William Aries, who is also attached to a big screen adaption of fellow DC comic book hero "The Flash", and what he calls two long overdue in-depth movies centered around World War 1 and the Korean War. It is believed that Moore and Aries will reach out and attempt to bring comic book and television writer Jeph Loeb on board to help with script duties.

    We are going to start from scratch and do a retelling of Superman's origin, said Moore, who was followed up by Aries noting that it was time to bring Superman into the 21st century and leave behind the iconic Christopher Reeve Superman films once and for all. The Chris Reeve/Richard Donner film was iconic and important in the history of not only comic book films, but films of the fantasy and sci-fi genres, said Aries, but there are different variations and ways to tell a story about Superman, and as the old saying goes, no film is perfect. Since the Christopher Reeve era of Superman, there have been three television shows that have brought the Kryptonian survivor on to the small screen, and the underwhelming Superman Returns hit theaters in 2006. But, the new Superman creative team feels that all of these attempts have not done the character justice and have all simply missed the target.

    As far as the storyline for this new chapter in the saga of Superman, a basic premise has been revealed. First and foremost, the villian. The sole villian of this film will be Braniac, a character many comic book fanboys have waited years to see on the big screen. And while there are several different comic book versions of th character, this Braniac will be rooted in Kryptonian origin. Going this route with Braniac, it just easily lends itself to an origin story were the focus is Superman,this allows for the focus to remain more so on Superman instead of branching off mid-story and doing yet another rushed Lex Luthor storyline, said Moore. The film will open on Krypton, and Braniac's part in the planets demise will be highlighted alongside the desperation of Superman's biological parents, Jor-El and Lara, to save there only son. Once on Earth, non-linear scenes focusing on the childhood of young Clark Kent, mixed with scenes of an early twenties Kent, will feature several key moments in the young man's life that will help make the choice to become Superman. In essence, the Clark Kent you will see in this film will be, at heart, a human being. And this human being just happens to have the powers of a God, something not many people can claim. Being an idealist, Clark will simply want to help, to make the world a better place, and in his mind, if the people of this world see a man with the powers of a God that is willing to help and not set on world control and domination, that can inspire. The story will highlight how Superman makes the world a better place. But it's not exactly cheers for big blue right out of the gate, like it was for the Chris Reeve Superman. How the hell would you feel if one day you turned on the news and some guy in a red cape showed up with the strength of 10,00 men and complete invulnerability, asked Aries. You would be scared to death. That is right, at first, the world will be afraid of Superman. His debut will be seen as something to good to be true, because in responce to his claims of wanting to help, the world will raise it's eyebrow and say, "bullshi*t", anyone with those abilities could only want to rule. But there will be one key person who believes in Superman from the get go, Daily Planet reporter Lois Lane, who will act as Superman's own personal publicist to get his message out. And then Braniac shows up, and suffice to say, feces hits the fan. Braniac's appearence will make the world believe that a true alien invasion has come, and one of Braniac's abilities in this film is shape-shifting, he can take on the look of anyone that he wants, Superman included. Although he has settled on the face of a person with whom he considers his father, someone close to Superman. But don't worry comic book fans, Moore and Aries have promised that Braniac will also be seen in his full on robotic appearence. And Lex Luthor fans, don't fret. LexCorp will be seen and mentioned several times during the course of the film, and two scenes during the film, one near the end, will set up a large portion of the already pre-planned sequel storyline.

    One of the criticsm's of Brayn Singer during the production of Superman Returns was that the movie was based off of Superman: The Movie and thats it, that none of the other source material was even skimmed over, outside of one Action Comics cover. Aries wants to assure fans that won't be the case this time around. There are several different forms of Superman media that will aide us in the creation of this movie. A quick rundown includes the min-series Superman: Birthright which was written by Mark Waid, who has joined Aries on the "Flash" feature film project. Also, Superman: The Animated Series, Superman For All Seasons, John Byrne's Man of Steel, and All-Star Superman will all be drawn from for this film.

    As far as picking a Director goes, well, were looking into several different scenario's, said Aries. It all kind of depends on who will really mesh with our vision and direction. There is really not much to comment on when it comes to a Director at this time. One thing is for sure, the budget for this film will be nowehre near that of Superman Returns reported $260 million. One of the most important points about this film is that we want it to be both critically acclaimed and financially successful, we want to do a character film and do it the right way, and after the drag that was Superman Returns, we feel that some movie goers might be afraid to return to theaters for this film. Hopefully, we can garner Dark Knight and Star Trek like buzz for this film, said Aries, but we are also prepared to go the Batman Begins route, and rebuild through a quality movie that returns credibility to the Superman franchise and firmly re-establishes the character. That is our main goal, re-establishing the character through a quality film. Another criticsm of the Bryan Singer made Superman Returns was a simple lack of action. And while this Superman reboot will be a character film first, the inclusion of a villian like Braniac will provide the chance to see Superman throw a punch or two. We have some cool, intense, and emotional action scenes in mind, not only for fight scenes between Superman and Braniac, but of Superman's heroic deeds around the world. And I think what will make the Superman vs. Braniac fight fun will be the fact that Braniac for one has all Kryptonian knowledge stored in his databanks, and has traveled the galaxy learning about and then destroying worlds, so there is bound to be some alien kung-fu tricks that Braniac has picked up along the way. And then there is Superman, who has never really worried about, or been in for that matter, a true fight. Why would Clark Kent take a karate or boxing class, asked Moore. So I think it will be interesting to watch Superman try and "tussle" with a technically sound an opponent thats technically sound in hand to hand combat.

    In casting news, while little has been talked about, one thing is certain. Brandon Routh will not be reprise his role from Superman Returns, says Aries. When asked why, Aries simply responded, Routh cannot act. Look, Brandon Routh seems like a nice guy, he does have an uncanny resemblence to Christopher Reeve, and he does have some fan support, but we need an real actor for what we want to accomplish with the character, and there really isn't any faith in Brandon's acting ability. Aries also noted that a Chris Reeve clone will not be sought after and that he would prefer to move away from that look to allow a new actor to establish his own identity as the character. Aries and Moore both said that have a list of credentials that a certain actor must have to nab the role, and that unknown, known, or semi-known, the best man for the part would be cast. With the other roles, there is internal debate on a casting approach. Should we stack up on big names with instant face recognition, try and secure a cast of critically acclaimed actors, or find nice niche actors and actresses who fill there roles with the perfection were seeking, asked Aries. We will see soon. One rumor that has already spread implies that both Aries and Moore want to meet with actress Evangiline Lilly, who stars on the hit ABC show "Lost", for the role of Lois Lane. While some would ask, who doesn't want to play an iconic character like Lois Lane in a big screen blockbuster, Lilly seems to not have a taste for the hollywood limelight, and despite her beauty and obvious acting ability, has even made mention of not acting anymore once Lost is finished with it's sixth and final season. It seems that Aries and Moore will try and persuade Lilly into changing her tune and joining the project as report Lane. There is also a reported deal in place with Jason Isaacs to portray Lex Luthor, but not in this origin film. Rather, Isaacs would play Lex Luthor in the pre-planned sequel, or even multiple sequels. However, it is worth noting that Aries mentioned how perfect Jaquin Phoenix would be for the Luthor character if he gets his career back on track.

    Well, thats all we have on this new Superman film for now, stay tuned.
     
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  10. Webhead2006

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    solid post notfadeaway.
     
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    You spelled "your" wrong Excel.
     
  12. Excel

    Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay

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    You're. Damnitt.
     
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    I'll fix it and erase these posts.
     
  14. Excel

    Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay

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    thanks show :up:
     
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    Thanks....

    There will be more later. The hardest part of this is actually picking the Director. Of course, the back up plan for my ideas is to turn the whole thing over to Peter Jackson, put the comics I listed in my previous post in front of him, and let Jackson work the magic. But like I said, fall back plan.
     
  16. Excel

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    I tend to doubt PJ would take the Project; than again, he hasnt had a film in 4 years and his last was a bit of a dissappointment all around. If the Lovely Bones fails, he might be in a post Island Michael Bay zone where he wants something he knows he work magic with.
     
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    I think Jackson would take the project if he were promised full control. Anything less, and I don't think he would.

    Ok, I'm through breaking character in this thread. Still thinking of a director.
     
  18. Excel

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    Jackson would make a baller Supes film; go for it. The whole point of this is to have fun with it, god knows the real news is dead.

    Original posts been updated with some stories from the production.
     
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    Love your choices for Supes and Lois. :up: :cwink:
     
  20. Excel

    Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay

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    Mine continued:

    Without further ordue...the teaser trailer for XL's Superman

    ^yes, thats the opening scenes from Abrams script. I woudl use it for just the teaser; it wouldnt be part of the film.

    The following is another Entertainment Weekly story, this time a cover story like this one:
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    Set to the already released picture of Cavills Superman, captioned "Henry Cavill: With one glare and one line, a star is born".
    "The trailer that changed the world:
    -Paying to just see the trailer
    -The huge reactionS
    -The soaring budget
    -The 2nd part of our set visit"

     
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    sounds like a cool teaser idea excel. And yea its very hard to come up with ideas for who would be solid director, actors, and producers. There is so many people out there and many names known and unknown to us masses.
     
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    My first actions as a producer would be that i'd use MY SCRIPT, get ROBERT ZEMECKYS as the DIRECTOR and then:

    HENRY CAVILL TO STAR IN SUPERMAN REBOOT!

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    Also,

    TOM HANKS IS SUPERMAN'S DAD.
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    Director ROBERT ZEMECKYS and producer/writer "SUPERDANIEL" talked about the casting of Hanks and the depiction of the place Superman was raised:

    RZ: "I needed an actor who represents AMERICANA. Someone with a gentle humbleness and who inspires confidence and trust. Tom is to me THE guy who possesses all these qualities and more. We imediately cared for him when we traveled together through America's history in Forrest Gump. We needed the same thing for Pa Kent and Clark's childhood. They're a pivotal part of the story we're trying to tell. Pa Kent represents Superman's humanity."

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    SD: "When we look at the city Superman grew up and how it was ever portrayed, it is impossible not to think of a Norman Rockwell painting: That special place and feeling we instantly miss when we look at it. Something we can all relate. This is what his painting evokes. It is the kind of thing I tried to capture in the world of Smallville and its citzens. The real challenge was to transform the still images into scenes that actually make sense in the story."

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    RZ: "Almost like what we did with Greenbow, Alabama."

    SD: "Yeah. It should have a fairy tale, almost utopian quality. A sense of community, something to aspire to and carry on. This is to me one of the foundations of the Superman character and persona. Why does he do this? You have all these INCREDIBLE powers and what do you do with them? Why would you give up of your normal life to HELP strangers? You must believe in something and Smallville and how he was raised is one of the keys to these questions. This movie is going to answer them all. We're going to really dwelve into Superman's head and feelings and this was never really done in a movie. Not like this, anyway."

    RZ: "It is going to be a truly special and magic experience for everyone."

    SD: "We can only hope to be able to achieve that."

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    Norman's Rockwell "After the Prom" was the inspiration for a scene in the movie in wich Clark Kent and Lana Lang go for a date but are interrupted by a force of nature...

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    "Breaking home ties" portraying a similarity with Clark's quest: Leaving home to find out about his destiny but always carring inside his childhood experiences and learnings.


    MORE TO COME!
     
    #23 SuperDaniel, May 20, 2009
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  24. GreenKToo

    GreenKToo In the fire

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    If only :( W.B. doesnt have the ballz to try it like that tho.
     
  25. Excel

    Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay

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    Jonathan Kent must have a pretty damn big role.
     

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