Justice League Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - - - - - - - Part 16

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[STARMAN]

Affleck still has more cards to play than Henry to walk away from Batman than Henry has walking away from Superman. I just don't see any point in Henry walking away despite the mess that is the DCEU.

 

[Tra-El]

Henry is still set up in the prime of his career and regardless of where the DCEU ended up, being the current face of the Superman character in the comic book boom period still has its many benefits in the current landscape of the genre. In many ways, DC Films is still trying to figure it out and it needs its faces to get goin'. Henry and Gal need to carry the torch. If Cavill gets his chance at a hit Superman film, all of this would be worth it. For him and the studio. Henry and Big Blue should be top priority. These times are pivitol.

 

[idiot09]

Superman being worshipped vs Superman being treated as an equal :

 

[GothamBat]

Hmmm I disagree i09. The appellation "master" certainly doesn't denote that Alfred regards him as a an equal. I just see that knowing smile as a "he doesn't know I'm technically just a kid from Kansas and not some big-shot and it's funny and humbling for him to address me with such reverence".

 

[idiot09]

Hmmm I disagree i09. The appellation "master" certainly doesn't denote that Alfred regards him as a an equal. I just see that knowing smile as a "he doesn't know I'm technically just a kid from Kansas and not some big-shot and it's funny and humbling for him to address me with such reverence".

When I say "equal" I meant not as a "God" but as a fellow human being. Also love Supes' smile there, and I agree with why he did. Such a great character moment!

 

[Poppy]

Superman being worshipped vs Superman being treated as an equal :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWQUSrIW0AENv4N.jpg

Nice !

 

[GothamBat]

That new JL Superman suit looks really good with Snyder's lighting. Might even prefer it to the BVS suit. It's colorful and vibrant without looking gaudy or like a costume from a porn parody, or a cosplay event.

 

[heatvision38]

Hmmm I disagree i09. The appellation "master" certainly doesn't denote that Alfred regards him as a an equal. I just see that knowing smile as a "he doesn't know I'm technically just a kid from Kansas and not some big-shot and it's funny and humbling for him to address me with such reverence".

But Alfred would know that if he his also calling him "Kent."

My take on Clark's expression is of slight surprise and amusement that Alfred simultaneously called him "Master" and "Kent." So formal and informal at the same time. But also, the subtle reverence or respect that Alfred shows before he addresses Clark through his non verbal cues must have registered with Clark as well.

 

[GothamBat]

But Alfred would know that if he his also calling him "Kent."

My take on Clark's expression is of slight surprise and amusement that Alfred simultaneously called him "Master" and "Kent." So formal and informal at the same time. But also, the subtle reverence or respect that Alfred shows before he addresses Clark through his non verbal cues must have registered with Clark as well.

Addressing someone by their last name is pretty formal

 

[heatvision38]

Addressing someone by their last name is pretty formal

True, but following that with his human name rather than calling him Superman isn't. That's what I mean. He both called him Master and Kent, both formal and informal (as in using his real name).

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Addressing someone by their last name is pretty formal

Not if they're called Superman

 

[Micromind]

Alfred is showing respect to Kent, not to Superman, which is 'new' for Clark, hence the smile.

 

[Vaibow]

Honestly, i think Cavill has made enough money that he can walk away from DC and try his hand at other options, however, do you burn a bridge? wb are big players! I think if his role in MI:Fallout is a hit, we'll see him reoccur and paramount will use him more in other projects.

He has been honest and said the lure of $$ is a huge factor in roles - sure he won't do a Nic Cage and do anything, but it helps.

He can easily land a role in a tv series, wether or not it's a hit, is another thing.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think what some people are forgetting from Cavill’s POV with Superman is he loves the character and he loves fern the custodian for the character. If WBs still wants him (which is the real question) then I have zero doubts about Henry still been Supes. There’s no way Cavill is walking away from Superman if it’s up to him.

 

[Polux]

Superman being worshipped vs Superman being treated as an equal :

Hmmm I disagree i09. The appellation "master" certainly doesn't denote that Alfred regards him as a an equal. I just see that knowing smile as a "he doesn't know I'm technically just a kid from Kansas and not some big-shot and it's funny and humbling for him to address me with such reverence".

When I say "equal" I meant not as a "God" but as a fellow human being. Also love Supes' smile there, and I agree with why he did. Such a great character moment!

It's funny how a discussion can start out of pretty much anything here

I agree with this, the smile to me read immediately as "oh, silly Alfred calling me 'master'..." t:

 

[idiot09]

It's funny how a discussion can start out of pretty much anything here

I agree with this, the smile to me read immediately as "oh, silly Alfred calling me 'master'..." t:

FWIW, I agree!

What I meant was the difference between when Superman's apprehensiveness when given respect as a godlike figure, against the humbleness he shows, when he is given respect as a fellow man.

Because throughout his life he has been on the fringes, lonely and alone. That feeling of loneliness and detachment grew further in BvS, so I think even minor things like these mean a lot to him!

Just my take, maybe Im reading too much into it.

 

[Polux]

FWIW, I agree!

What I meant was the difference between when Superman's apprehensiveness when given respect as a godlike figure, against the humbleness he shows, when he is given respect as a fellow man.

Because throughout his life he has been on the fringes, lonely and alone. That feeling of loneliness and detachment grew further in BvS, so I think even minor things like these mean a lot to him!

Just my take, maybe Im reading too much into it.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, I think it has to do also with Superman maturing into his role and understanding that people will be reverential to him no matter what, so he might as well just shrug it off.

 

[Tra-El]

I think what some people are forgetting from Cavill’s POV with Superman is he loves the character and he loves fern the custodian for the character. If WBs still wants him (which is the real question) then I have zero doubts about Henry still been Supes. There’s no way Cavill is walking away from Superman if it’s up to him.

Agreed. Henry himself says he's protective of the character and almost sounds like he's begging to get things right when being asked questions about the future. If you take any actor or actress and ask them if they would want to leave, I believe Henry would be the last one in the room.

 

[herolee10]

 

[HellYeah]

So Deadpool was the one responsible for the ****** CGI of moustache removal...

 

[elgaz]

My single fave Cavill scene from JL. The shot of him standing over Steppenwolf is epic.

 

[Superherofan123]

My single fave Cavill scene from JL. The shot of him standing over Steppenwolf is epic.

Pure Snyder. So disappointing that reshoot Cavill looked so different. I still enjoyed the movie, but I know it should have been so much better. All the Snyder stuff just sounds, and what we saw of it looks, so much better.

 

[markjoedelonge]

My single fave Cavill scene from JL. The shot of him standing over Steppenwolf is epic.

Now imagine with Junkie/Zimmer's score.