Hollywood to implode...according to Spielberg

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  1. Figs Registered

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    I have to laugh at Lucas being surprised that Red Tails almost didn't make it into theaters. Just from the trailers it looked pretty bad, I wouldn't have been surprised at all if it went straight to TV or home video.


    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steven-spielberg-predicts-implosion-film-567604

     
  2. DeGenerate10 Br Ba

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    Red Tails was awful. I'm sorry but Lucas is not a good director or whatever he did with Red Tails.
     
  3. CGHulk Registered

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    Thanks for this.
     
  4. Teelie Jokerface

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    The irony is they are in part responsible for the existing setup.
     
  5. jacobed Registered

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    He paid for it. I thought it was pretty good.
     
  6. Warhammer Half Monk, Half Hitman

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    What sucks was that Red Tails was Lucas's passion project. He's been wanting to make that film for decades. The man should just have sticked to writing because he is one of the best ever.
     
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    The studio system has become diseased. The accumulated filth of all their PG-13 and brand regocnition will foam up about their waists and all the producers and accounts will look up and shout 'Save us!' And Spielberg will look down, and whisper 'No'"
     
  8. Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

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    If it was his passion project he should've directed it. The movie was all kinds of awful.
     
  9. redhawk23 Wrestlin'

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    Movies are staying theaters for shorter amounts of time, not longer.
     
  10. jacobed Registered

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    Lucas knows he isn't a great director. He will be the first to tell you that. Hence to why he hired the guy to direct it
     
  11. Gianakin_ SW Prequels Defender

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    Well, then he's a worse picker.:hehe:
     
  12. dark_b Registered

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    hollywood is changing. it costs a lot of money. but at the same time a lot of people get a lot work in hollywood. what is the number?

    is it about money? well i ask you why isnt Nolan making a 50 million Interstellar?
     
  13. chamber-music Infinity Ammo

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    This isn't surprising actors, writers, producers, critics have been saying the industry has been going through a big transition for a while.

    Studios make fewer movies and they make most of their profits from the summer blockbusters which have mass a appeal and effectively subsidies any of the smaller budget movies they make. Even with the summer blockbusters some of the major studios co-produce and co-finance with a production company like Legendary Pictures as they couldn't afford to make it on their own.

    Even Brad Pitt told the BBC in a interview not too long ago this
     
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    I think that Lucas and the 'Berg have a point about some sort of catalyst being in the near-future. It will revolve around escalating costs, both for development and ticket sales, but it's harder to pinpoint what that catalyst will ultimately be. I think Steven is on the right track with thinking that it would take multiple $250m flops in a year, but I think it will be a more complex series of circumstances. It will likely be a perfect storm of ticket prices, 3D imploding, Netflix faltering, piracy out of control, and current genres and trends coming to the end of their life cycles. The last thing I can think of of the top of my head is the '70s and '80s, with westerns dying and the emergence of sci-fi, action movies, and the true 'blockbuster". I think the other thing will be a clamoring for more original content - either 100% original screenplays, or works from previously unadapted sources. Remakes, franchise reboots, sequels, and the like are going to overstay their welcome.
     
  15. redhawk23 Wrestlin'

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    The larger comic books movies aside, the studios are already back away from the 250 millioin dollar budgets for things.
     
  16. Hyde Ooga-Chaka

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    This kinda happened in 2012 with John Carter and Battleship.
     
  17. Teelie Jokerface

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    But only to Taylor Kitsch and Disney who then promptly went and blew $4 billion buying the Star Wars franchise. Maybe Taylor and/or Disney will be the first to implode?
     
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    Lucas is a terrible writer. He openly admits to hating it and is primarily concerned with getting from A to B regardless of how awkward or stilted the dialogue becomes.

    He's a better director than writer which is saying something really...
     
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    Lucas has a great ability to conceptualize and he's valuable in the editing room, but a writer and director he is really not. There's a great deal of irony that his best work has been done in the studio system, not outside of it.

    That's all I'm going to say on the off-topic topic.

    Going back and rereading the original post, I don't think we'll ever get back to the truly massive event movie that lasts forever in theaters. I don't think that's really happened since Titanic, even though I recall Avatar lingering for quite a while. That used to be the norm, but prior to the proliferation of VHS. With the turnover to home video being so much faster in today's "Now! Now! Now!" society, we'll never get back to long runs in theaters.
     
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    The ironic thing is... both of them are contributing to this 'implosion.'
     
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    There's also been an influx of movie actors jumping to TV in recent years. Also a recent number of film actors heading back to their roots so to speak and taking up theater by doing Broadway. Both moves make sense. If a TV show does very well, it could last 5 or 6 years and go 100+ episodes. Broadway is 8 performances a week for however long the Broadway run lasts (could be a few months, or it could last a long time). Both give movie actors stability.
     
  22. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    Would someone explain to me why exactly PG-13 is some kind of horrible evil thing?
     
  23. chamber-music Infinity Ammo

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    PG-13 isn't bad in itself. I think people have a problem with studios making films PG-13 that don't really suit that rating and by making it have a lower rating it hurts the movie because they waterdown or cut things from the film.

    If a studio/producers tell a director/screenwriter that the movie is PG-13 before filming making it then its fine but what happens some times is the studios say a film has a certain rating and then change their minds when the movie is already filmed and sometimes edited.
    Disney has also given Lone Ranger a $250 million dollar budget despite almost pulling the plug before because the budget was too high.
     
  24. Warhammer Half Monk, Half Hitman

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    Actually, he technically co-directed. He just wasn't credited. Either way, Lucas reminds me of Goyer. Goyer can make fantastic concepts/stories. It's the screenwriting where Lucas isn't strong at.

    Which completely blows my mind. The film was almost done for then a year later, you pour much more into it than you originally did before. Disney's got it like that apparently. Of course, this film could make over 600 million worldwide and I'll just shut the f*** up.
     
  25. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    They ain't wrong.
     

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