Homeland

[Maximus One]

I just feel so robbed of such a great protagonist. We've had meth dealers, serial killers, mob bosses etc a marine turned terrorist is just such a great premise. The first season felt so poignant and important. It had something to say. Now it doesn't anymore. Not really. I honestly think I probably won't tune in next season. I've never done that over a death on a show before but I just have nothing to look forward to with this show now. This season even when it was great was still a bore to me without Brody and now I just don't care anymore. His redemption should have been the focus of this story. This isn't Game of Thrones

 

[DACrowe]

The show needed to let Brody go long ago. His story ended in the masterful "Q&A" (the episode where Carrie broke him).

As much as I like Brody, this has never been his story; it's Carrie's. She was always the one each season began and ended on. It was about her and the audience uncovering whether he was a terrorist, then proving it, and then getting revenge/justice for him destroying her life. After she broke him, the story was done. And because the show was too scared to kill him in Season 2, we entered melodramatic tripe for the last 1.5 seasons.

As Brody admitted himself this week, "How does killing one person redeem killing another?" His arc is done. It has been done for a long time.

 

[E-Man]

I don't see where they could have gone with Brody unless they had him turn back into a terrorist. Even then I would just be waiting until they turned him back into a "good guy" again at another point.

 

[Maximus One]

Ummm they redeem him maybe?

 

[Tyrell Wellick]

There was no chance for Brody to redeem himself. Not after what he tried to do. As Saul pointed out in the this season but als in the previous one, he will always be the person who put on a vest and tried to commit suicide with the consequence of killing many people. You can not redeem yourself from that.

I said it on a other board. Homeland is a bit overrated. They have received acclaim for the good first Season but I think that the people behind the show didnt expect such a critic success. This show was planned for two seasons and not more.

 

[Golgo-13]

Cool finale. I can actually see the show also going on without Saul as well. Saul is a great character but his arc is done. His marriage is working again. He succeeded with Jarvardi and getting the change he wanted. As his wife said when she read the newspaper - he's done it. As much as i love him, bringing him back may just seem like keeping him around for the sake of it.

Next season should just be Carrie (with her baby issues), Quinn, the new director and Saul's friend (can't think of his name).

 

[E-Man]

Ummm they redeem him maybe?

They already did redeem him. He had the opportunity to take out a major "enemy of the state" so that a massive operation could move forward. Once he took out Akbari he redeemed himself, so where else was he going to from there besides trying to live something far from a normal life in hiding with Carrie and her baby? I highly doubt he would have gone on to continue to do secret missions for the government at that point since he was disillusioned with everything.

Sure they could force him to do it, but it made more sense in storyline for him to be caught be Djivadi in order to cement their choice for Akbari's successor. Brody was already willing to kill himself to take out a bunch of politicians for Abu Nazir, and now he took out a man on the other side of the coin. Brody killed two monsters at very high positions in power in the Vice President and Akbari. That's pretty damn far for an assassin, and eventually he was going to end up being killed for it.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Great ender, sad but in a way it had to be done. I just wonder when the story goes from here in the next season.

 

[squeekness]

I know. This season ended like it was the last. I wasn't sure if it got renewed or not but I guess it did.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

I know. This season ended like it was the last. I wasn't sure if it got renewed or not but I guess it did.

Yup, it has been renewed for another season.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/22/homeland-renewed-fourth-season/

 

[DACrowe]

Ummm they redeem him maybe?

Define redeem? The CIA using him for any mission is a stretch. He wasn't about to become a full-time CIA employee or return to military service. At best, he would have to enter some form of witness protection and...that's not what this show is about. His story as a marine turned terrorist turned CIA asset was over. It has been over for a year in all honesty.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Just finished watching the third season. It was a good finale. I was expecting when Brody was gonna die.

Some of the posters in this thread are right. Brody had to die. His story is over. It was like he saying himself: What he go back to? What would he do? His life is never gonna be normal nor would he be able to go back.

This season, like Season 1, I feel does a great job at making you feel conflicted. I think Lockhart had a point when he kept Brody in Tehran when he said it would ensure Javadi getting the promotion and clear up loose ends, but at the same time if we're breaking our promises to assets, dropping bombs with (innocent) collateral damage like in season 1, and lying to our own agents in the name of a greater cause, what's makes us better than them.

I will also agree that it feels like Carrie's story done and in more ways than one this felt like a series finale. I know that some people suggested Saul going into the private sector is a potential story, but we'll have to wait until next season.

 

[Gort Baringa]

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Brody could never become anonymous anywhere - witness protection, etc.

He was a well publicised Marine who was found alive after many years as a P.O.W.
He became a congressman and possible Vice President Candidate.
His image was broadcast for the world to see after the destruction of C.I.A. headquarters
His message from Iran to the world labelled him a traitor.

To go into hiding of any kind he would first need to change his hair colour and then grow heavy facial hair. It really was odd to see him with Carrie openly in the streets of Tehran after Akbari's assassination. His appearance would have been well know to absolutely everyone in Iran!


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[Paradox1]

I am sad to see Brody to go, when he finally found redemption he's killed. I was hoping they'd find a way to bring him back somehow, like that villain in the Sherlock holmes movie, no such luck tho. Personally I always liked the Brody& Carrie relationship it was good for both of them as characters because of it they both grew and evolved. She is having his baby so I guess a part of him will live on the show however it is on. A real somber ending though, I don't know what is going to happen next.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

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Brody could never become anonymous anywhere - witness protection, etc.

He was a well publicised Marine who was found alive after many years as a P.O.W.
He became a congressman and possible Vice President Candidate.
His image was broadcast for the world to see after the destruction of C.I.A. headquarters
His message from Iran to the world labelled him a traitor.

To go into hiding of any kind he would first need to change his hair colour and then grow heavy facial hair. It really was odd to see him with Carrie openly in the streets of Tehran after Akbari's assassination. His appearance would have been well know to absolutely everyone in Iran!
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Yep. It was the right move. I honestly couldn't see another ending for him. It doesn't make it any less sucky that he died. His death probably gets to me more personally than many deaths I've seen in other dramas of recent times.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I will also agree that it feels like Carrie's story done and in more ways than one this felt like a series finale. I know that some people suggested Saul going into the private sector is a potential story, but we'll have to wait until next season.

I'd also like to add that this is a Showtime show, and unfortunately Showtime shows tend to overstay their welcome (Dexter, Weeds, L Word among others), so I'm mixed on next season because it feels like a unfortunate, yet fitting ending to both Carrie and Brody's stories and yet I can't help but feel they'd bring Carrie back when honestly, I'd rather them focus more on other characters like Quinn and Saul.

 

[Maximus One]

I dunno, I just would've liked maybe for the whole country to find out the whole story or something. Only a few people in the show actually knew what all happened with Brody and Abu Nazir. I dunno. I still think I'm done with this show.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Eklypze, if you thought this show's ever gonna have a happy ending you're watching the wrong show.

I knew judging from the other season finales that this show is gonna be bittersweet at best.

 

[Crockett]

Saul have some good potential regarding his storyline since he'll be working on the private sector but I hope Carrie picks him for one of her team member when she'll go to Istanbul, it's isn't the same when they aren't working together.

 

[The Shape]

I dunno, I just would've liked maybe for the whole country to find out the whole story or something. Only a few people in the show actually knew what all happened with Brody and Abu Nazir. I dunno. I still think I'm done with this show.

That's what Carrie wanted, too -- for the country to find out that Brody truly was a hero who had nothing to do with the Langley bombing. She desperately wanted him to succeed and survive that mission to prove his goodness to others, and so that her child could have a father. He did succeed but didn't survive.

Not everyone has a happy ending and not everyone can get everything they want in life, something which holds true in real life. If you're going to be "done with this show" because you're a little pissy that you didn't get what YOU wanted, then go for it.

 

[E-Man]

What's more sad to me than Brody not getting recognized is Saul not getting recognized for his brilliant plan. He was the only guy to come up with that plan as far as anyone else has mentioned, but he gets screwed by politics. It's understandable that they couldn't give him public props on the plan because that would blow Djivadi's cover, but at least they could have kept him around instead of tossing him out the window like he did nothing. Maybe they deal with how politics mess with espionage more next season. They made a lot of references to it this season, but I hope that next season they show just how different the world of politics is to the world of spying. It could give the show a ton of new life.

 

[L.A.]

Just finish the first three seasons and i am officially a fan

 

[Maximus One]

That's what Carrie wanted, too -- for the country to find out that Brody truly was a hero who had nothing to do with the Langley bombing. She desperately wanted him to succeed and survive that mission to prove his goodness to others, and so that her child could have a father. He did succeed but didn't survive.

Not everyone has a happy ending and not everyone can get everything they want in life, something which holds true in real life. If you're going to be "done with this show" because you're a little pissy that you didn't get what YOU wanted, then go for it.

I wouldn't say that thinking this show should have taken a different turn means the same thing as I wanted it a certain way. I just feel like this show Gould have done things differently. I feel that way about a lot of shows. I will say though that now after I've sat on it for a bit I like it a bit more. Everything I've said I still stand by but I probably will sit out for the rest of the run. I mean, Jimmy's death on Boardwalk Empire pissed me off a lot more than this does and I still love that show.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Warhammer]

So I skipped out on season 3 simply because the last third of season 2 was a chore to watch. Now I finally get around to this and Brody dies? Stupid. I can understand why they killed him off but damn, what the hell is Homeland now? Brody is dead. Saul gets a good sendoff and honestly should be written out. This show is the epitome of all Showtime shows. It runs one or two seasons too long.

I just feel so robbed of such a great protagonist. We've had meth dealers, serial killers, mob bosses etc a marine turned terrorist is just such a great premise. The first season felt so poignant and important. It had something to say. Now it doesn't anymore. Not really. I honestly think I probably won't tune in next season. I've never done that over a death on a show before but I just have nothing to look forward to with this show now. This season even when it was great was still a bore to me without Brody and now I just don't care anymore. His redemption should have been the focus of this story. This isn't Game of Thrones

I couldn't have said it better. Homeland season one is fantastic television. I was absolutely hooked. It was Heroes all over again.