How can the Hulk be fixed????

[Hmarrs]

If you could what do you think can be fixed about the Hulk's movies that would change the general
(no pun intended)reception of the Hulk movies.
Would you change:

The loook and design?
The CGI?
The Story?
The Characters?
Or nothing????

 

[Chewy]

The general reception of The Incredible Hulk was "very good".

What they needed to do was film about four months earlier to allow more time for post/marketing.

And how many of this same thread do we need?

 

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

No matter what Marvel does with Hulk, they can't please everyone.

Having Hulk talk more & interact more with the other characters in the movies would be a good place to start. Hulk really isn't considered a superhero in the same way that Spider-Man, Batman or Superman is but giving him a few heroic deeds to do in each movie would be great to see.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think honestly audiences didn't connect with Hulk very much, and Hulk does very little in the movies to make himself cooler, more sympathetic with audiences. Hulk could've been more of a character in the movies.

I think the other thing is that since he's CG the entire time, it's hard to get into him. Not that audiences can't find footing with CG characters, but when they know that and the character isn't absolutely amazing it can be troublesome.

The problem is they wouldn't let Hulk talk more, even though he at least said Hulk Smash this time. But we don't get enough of the idea that Hulk is really just the psyche of a scared, abused kid. It's almost like they felt if Hulk spoke more often, the audience wouldn't like it.

The other thing is that Hulk also could've been shown to be more heroic. Such as saving innocent bystanders during those fights or trying to protect small animals or children. That CG promotional spot at conventions with Hulk petting the puppy. Stuff like that is great, "Puppy." It also kind of expresses that in many ways Hulk is like an angry toddler.

 

[dcHulk]

I think honestly audiences didn't connect with Hulk very much, and Hulk does very little in the movies to make himself cooler, more sympathetic with audiences. Hulk could've been more of a character in the movies.

I think the other thing is that since he's CG the entire time, it's hard to get into him. Not that audiences can't find footing with CG characters, but when they know that and the character isn't absolutely amazing it can be troublesome.

The problem is they wouldn't let Hulk talk more, even though he at least said Hulk Smash this time. But we don't get enough of the idea that Hulk is really just the psyche of a scared, abused kid. It's almost like they felt if Hulk spoke more often, the audience wouldn't like it.

The other thing is that Hulk also could've been shown to be more heroic. Such as saving innocent bystanders during those fights or trying to protect small animals or children. That CG promotional spot at conventions with Hulk petting the puppy. Stuff like that is great, "Puppy." It also kind of expresses that in many ways Hulk is like an angry toddler.

I agree with you, especially the highlighted part. I'm just not sure if Marvel will go into much depth on that. I mean, Ang nailed this part and look at the perception. This may be something that expands the story if there is a sequel.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Hulk definitely needs to have his own seperate personality and not just be Banner turned ******ed.

 

[TheVileOne]

Ang screwed it up though. He over-complicated it. It's really just a simple idea that could've been executed so much more effectively. Plus Ang wouldn't give his Hulk much of a personality either, it was a very one note type of Hulk.

 

[co2]

I don't buy the idea that the Hulk is out of gas. It really has the potential for everything that would make a terrificly successfull movie franchise. It's just a hard balancing act to achieve. Hulk movies need to have the requisite extreme action, and TIH did, but these movies really need to be very character driven too. Somehow, the TV show was able to capture that more than the movies have....and Ang's movie tried really hard, but it was just deficient in the "fun" aspect that also allows you to enjoy it. TIH was stepping in the right direction, it just didn't capitalize on some things it should have.

They've all been better than the dream I had last night. I dreamt that they put Lou in the make-up again and he was talking...in his normal voice The transformation scene was like a parody. It was like they made a comedy of the Hulk.

 

[Judson Caspian]

The only thing missing in the new film is the multi-mile jump. I really hope someone at Marvel is reading this. It was there from the beginning in the first Hulk comic from 1962.

Why would it be a good idea to depower a superhero?

 

[dark_b]

The only thing missing in the new film is the multi-mile jump. I really hope someone at Marvel is reading this. It was there from the beginning in the first Hulk comic from 1962.

Why would it be a good idea to depower a superhero?

they hdd to change a lot of stuff from the 03 movie. this is IMO one of the changes.

 

[dcHulk]

^^No the jumps were still there, just off camera. That's how Banner made it from Brazil to central America. And it was also implied following the campus scene. I agree that Marvel made changes to distance itself from Ang's movie, but it would have been better to see the hulk jump from the street to the top of the building instead of climbing it at the end.

 

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

^^No the jumps were still there, just off camera. That's how Banner made it from Brazil to central America. And it was also implied following the campus scene. I agree that Marvel made changes to distance itself from Ang's movie, but it would have been better to see the hulk jump from the street to the top of the building instead of climbing it at the end.

They probably cut it out just to save money. Hulk leaping around is cool to see but it isn't as important to see it actually happen on screen as much as it is to see Superman being able to fly around in his movies. Who knows maybe Marvel will someday release an extended edition of the movie that includes the leaping scenes.

They definitely slowed Hulk down speed wise compared to the last movie. When he is chasing super Blonsky Hulk should have been able to easily catch up to him if he had the speed he had in the last movie.

 

[Judson Caspian]

^^No the jumps were still there, just off camera.

And it would've been more fun to actually see them. Why should I, or anyone for that matter, care about what's happening off camera?

 

[Crockett]

Agree, it's better if they show on-camera when he (Hulk) do the multi-mile jump.
I bet the audience would love to see that too, I know that I would.

 

[Bathead]

"Hulk want purple pants, NOW!"

 

[Hmarrs]

Several things I want to comment on.
I think just about everything that was said here was on the money.
Jumping.I wanna see it,that's my favorite part of the 03 flick.
De-powered?Nix I don't want to see a weaker Hulk.
Talking oh definately especially since the Hulk is CGI.
It would have sold the realism.
Think about this for a moment.
When you see a Ventriliquist I mean a really,really good ventriliquest can make you forget about the Dummy.
Of course you know it's fake but your so engulfed in the character that you don't care if it's fake just because you want to know what it's going to say next.
Hey we see it all the time in Politics.
It's usally the most charimatic guy that wins.
Even though we know they all lie.
the Hulk was too one demensonial.Even a real life character will come of fake if he is one demensional.Think about it.
What chance does a CGI character have.
The Lou Ferrigno Hulk and Bill Bixby had two distinct personalities.
I remember once a doctor Jekell Mr.Hyde movie and in this movie their was very little make-up.Both the actor I believe it was Spencer Tracy played of both Characters so well it didn't matter.Really both Hulk movies had no Hulk.Just a blown up Banner and even then lost the only personnality in the movie(Banner's).Even a Banner Hulk would have been more interesting.(Proffessor Hulk).
Again awesome you guys who said have him do some heroic stuff.If you have empathy for the character.You will see him as the hero.

That person that said it is a simple story that has been overcomplicated was right.

Basically:
It's so simple that it becomes complicated.

 

[HulkStomps!]

I couldn't agree more with all you guys! You've all said what I'd like to see as well. I'm glad I'm not the only one. All this, and knowing that CG is only going to continue to improve, so say we see Hulk again in 2011 or 2012, I hopefully shouldn't matter if weather ILM or Rhythm & Hues does the animation. It should be SWEET!

 

[HulkStomps!]

I would like to include thought that they should really make it much clearer his increase in strength, by showing something that he struggled with earlier in the film, he'd suddenly easily handle in the climactic finally.

I did really like the final battle but I personally felt it still should have been bigger and a bit longer. And just increasingly more brutal, like when he had Abom around the neck with the chain, Hulk should have swung Abom around into walls like he was a giant pillow! Eyes glowing Red! Really showing that Hulk has just surpassed Abomination in strength! But I guess that's just me.

 

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

Eyes.Glowing.Red ????!?!?!!?!?!!?

 

[Mario_Galaxy]

They definitely need to have Hulk talk. As the film went on, you felt more and more for the big guy, but still not enough. Banner, on the other hand, was a lot better this time around. Stuff like him screwing up when talking in SPanish, or saying oh **** when he fell out the helicopter, just made him seem alot more human than Eric Bana's. I don't get this mindset filmmakers seem to have on having Hulk be a near-mute. Two or three lines isn't enough.

 

[HulkStomps!]

Eyes.Glowing.Red ????!?!?!!?!?!!?

I was referring to these images which I feel, it really conveys how it might look if Hulk had been pushed to a point to where he's off the deep end. that all. I mean think about it, it already cool that his eyes glow green, but what if at some point they actually turned RED! like this. Especially like on the Ron Garney Cover, They actually reversed Whites of his eyes to red, making the vains look like Lightning bolts! That would look so awesome.

I know, I have issues. But I still think it would look too cool.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

I hear what everybody is saying and all, but i thought "The Incredible Hulk" was great. It was a far cry from the Ang Lee version- which i liked as well, but i loved this ONE much more! If there is in fact another movie, (I HOPE!) i think they gave us every indication that the Hulk will be more of a vocal character in the films to come. I think the serum Sterns gave Bruce changed the mental psyche of both personalities- which is why the Hulk acknowledged Betty by her name, and why Bruce smiles at the end of the movie. He'll obviously maintain his personality while in Hulk form for a time, but eventually lose control as we all know. We can all nit-pick, and add things that we think everybody wants to see, but the bottom line is this: EVERYBODY AIN'T GONNA LIKE EVERYTHING. Even when you try to tailor make movies for the FANS.

 

[BLAQUE-SPIDERMAN]

Hulk definitely needs to have his own seperate personality and not just be Banner turned ******ed.

To me- that's the only other improvement to be made in this franchise. Flesh out the Hulk's character now, we all know that Banner wants to be rid of the Hulk, now show that the Hulk is aware of Banner's desire and wants to be free of him. That's it.

 

[HulkStomps!]

I hear what everybody is saying and all, but i thought "The Incredible Hulk" was great. It was a far cry from the Ang Lee version- which i liked as well, but i loved this ONE much more! If there is in fact another movie, (I HOPE!) i think they gave us every indication that the Hulk will be more of a vocal character in the films to come. I think the serum Sterns gave Bruce changed the mental psyche of both personalities- which is why the Hulk acknowledged Betty by her name, and why Bruce smiles at the end of the movie. He'll obviously maintain his personality while in Hulk form for a time, but eventually lose control as we all know. We can all nit-pick, and add things that we think everybody wants to see, but the bottom line is this: EVERYBODY AIN'T GONNA LIKE EVERYTHING. Even when you try to tailor make movies for the FANS.

I agree. Me as a fan, loved the movie, as I'm sure pretty much everyone else here did as well. But the general point of this discussion is despite what we thought about the movie, It still didn't quite do as well as it probably was expected to do in theaters. Although TIH is far more entertaining than the Hulk of '03, It's overall report card is a big "It was alright!" Thus were simply discussing what do you think would make the flick better received, interesting and even entertaining? I personally feel that once you have an idea to where it's good, push the envelope! That's what they did in Ironman. Rest assured, if we thought the first Ironman was awesome, wait till you see the next one! Story and action will all be INTENSIFIED!

The movie was great. What's done is done, BUT So for this thread, I wouldn't call it nit-picking, just adding suggestions. So in all seriousness, why not simply have fun with the question?

 

[ILOVESTUFF]

* Market the film properly.
* Have Hulk performing unimaginable feats of strength highlighting his limitless fury and power.
* Stop whining about Ang Lee.