Sequels How on earth do you top the action scenes of 3?

[Kevin Roegele]

I can't imagine how you could top the action of Spidey 3. That seems to to be the pinnacle of Spider-Man action. All I can think of is the Sinister Six - not that I'm suggesting they are a good idea overall, but seeing Spidey fight six villains at once....

 

[BobJM]

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[The-Arachnoid]

I would say making the end fight less like a Power Ranger movie would be a good start.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Just good choreography,plus have the fights start in one location and end somewhere else,and show some special moves that only the villain can do.

 

[BobJM]

If that last scene was Power Rangers-esque, I better start watching it again!

 

[GoldGoblin]

A little action scene:

Dr.Connors is teaching a class,Dr.Connors has a seizure and turns into the Lizard.Everyone starts screaming and starts running out of the classroom.As the Lizard grabs onto a fleeing student and is about to take a bite out of them,a web ball explodes over the Lizard's mouth.

The Lizard drops the kid and rips the web off of his face.The only ones in the classroom are now the Lizard and spidey.The Lizard picks up his teachers desk and chucks it at spidey.

Spidey is sent crashing through the window,and during spidey's freefall to the ground,spidey sees the Lizard is crawling out of the window and his making his way to the top of the building.

Spidey shoots a web at the building and webzips into the Lizard.They both go rolling over like tumbleweeds on the rooftop.The Lizard gets up and swings his tail at spidey and spidey dodges it,then the Lizard tries to punch spidey,but spidey jumps into the air doing a somersault over the Lizard to dodge that as well and the Lizard's arm goes into a rotating fan blade cutting one of his reptile arms off.

When spidey is in the air doing a somersault spidey shoots two webs at the Lizard,each web hits the Lizard's shoulders and when spidey lands on the rooftop behind the Lizard,spidey yanks the webs over his head making the Lizard go flying over spidey and crashes into the side of the building.

As the Lizard is in the broken bricks in the side of the building,the Lizard yanks the webs down and spidey goes flying off the rooftop himself.And when spidey gets to where the Lizard is the two of them are kicking and hiting all the way down to the ground below.

They crash into the trailer of a diesel.The Lizard has ripped spidey's mask off,but inside the trailer no one can see spidey's face.Inside the trailer is gasoline and it is hard to move around with the trailer being filled with the stuff.

But as spidey is dodging the punches from the Lizard's one good arm that is left,the Lizard is punching holes through the trailer making the gasoline drain from the trailer.

But now with all the gasoline out of the trailer they can movie alot more and the Lizard is making the trailer look like swiss cheese.One punch goes through to the cab of the truck and the Lizard's clawed hand rips the driver's shoulder up making the driver crash the truck into a deli.

Some pedestrian who was smoking tosses his cigarette to the ground which causes a big explosion.The explosion tosses cars into the sky and then they come back down and crash through the street making a big whole in the street where the sewer is.

The Lizard finally lands a punch on spidey and spidey goes flying out of the trailer and falls down into the sewer.Spidey submerges under the water that is in the sewer.

When spidey comes back up out of the water for air,the Lizard crashes into him and the two both go back under the water where spidey is fighting for his life.

Spidey finally breaks free and makes his way to the surface and climbs on a car that is floating in the water.When the Lizard comes out of the water and grabs onto spidey's leg someone driving a car up above on the street doesn't know about the hole in the road and goes driving off into it.

The car hits the Lizard sending him back down into the water.Spidey rescues the person in the car and takes them back to the the street.And when spidey turns around and looks back down into the hole,spidey sees Dr.Connors floating in the water face down.

 

[Tempest19]

Include a fight heavy with emotion and is intense. The Lizard easily lends himself to an emotional villain, because we know he needs to be stopped but at the same time we don't want him to get hurt. Spider-Man wants to cure him, not hurt him. Also lends itself easily to intense action sequences. Mixture of the two equals perfection.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Choreography and CGI are always advancing...they'll find a way.

 

[Visionary]

How on earth do you top the action scenes of 3?

YOU DON'T.

It would be a mistake and too costly. Seriously, I think if Sam Raimi does direct SM4, it should be a smaller movie (with a smaller budget), focusing on a much stronger story and character development with one main villain THE LIZARD. Maybe with a secondary villain that compliments The Lizard and Spidey's battle, like KRAVEN THE HUNTER or ELECTRO--but only two villains. And not bigger action scenes, but better, I'm talking creatively.

I also think Sony's ImageWorks should team up with WETA visual effect company for Spider-Man 4. Let WETA handle the bulk of THE LIZARD and SPIDER-MAN's effects.

I would also hope that if we do get a new director, he also takes this route.

 

[XXTBWCXX]

Umm...how was the S-M 3 final battle Power Rangers-esque? Lol...I would love to see Venom kill all of the Power Rangers though, haha.

Well, you don't really have to "top" the action scenes...just, a Spider-Man vs. Lizard fight would be visually awesome and amazing to watch...not to mention, three battles featuring Spider-Man and Lizard (seeing how it always comes in three fights).

 

[Catman]

I can't imagine how you could top the action of Spidey 3. That seems to to be the pinnacle of Spider-Man action. All I can think of is the Sinister Six - not that I'm suggesting they are a good idea overall, but seeing Spidey fight six villains at once....

Remember when you saw Spider-Man 2 and asked the same question? Thats my answer.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

yea its really not that hard to top it (and im not saying SM3 was bad), but i do think it shouldnt be "bigger" just "better", and if it is the lizard, i dont want to see him punch, he should claw

 

[GL1]

Well there is certainly room for bringing up the emotional content of the fight scenes, but that doesn't preclude us from doing scenes that are both bigger AND better. (This one of the other stuff is insipid.)

1) Set Pieces

Well, while a Construction Site is convenient for the plot (sound, sand and stuff) and offers a lot of acrobatic opportunity... it's not very... epic. Someone mentioned in a nother thread a fight in a stadium. Now THAT'S cool... a place known for contests being used in a new context with hundreds of thousands of onlookers. Ownage.

There's no close quarters fights. What if Spider-Man had to fight within a car. Now THAT'S intense. You put Spider-Man underwater or freefalling from like a plane or something (or just in a plane period... a crashing one). There's many setpieces one can use to up the ante.

2) Unique Villains

As mentioned before, villain powers add a lot to it. The sandman battles had infinite potential because Sandman is so amazing and versatile. The Goblin Battles gave New Goblin new equipment and techniques for NEW fight scenes... a traditional glider would have been "been there done that." Venom is, honestly, just Spider-Man and while cool, didn't offer a whole lot of inherent awesomeness.

When talk about Scorpion's acid or Shocker and Electro's multiplicity of effects, or even vulture's unique maneuverability we get into some options that we haven't had before. New challenges equal new moves for Spidey.

3) The sinister Six. Honestly. Think about it. Sandman gets coerced. Gargan gets a single ock tentacle and the goblin formula. Roderick Kingsley gets all the old Goblin equipment. Vulture with his electromagnetic harness to say nothing of Electro and or Shocker and or Carnage. If these six plus Spidey are on the screen at the same time, just the choreography alone is enough to send most people into space. That's a payoff that's worth waiting a movie to see. In fact, I demand a 30-minute fight scene for that... just cuz it's so awesome.

 

[XXTBWCXX]

A thirty minute fight scene won't happen and neither will a Sinister Six...even the construction fight, to me, should've had an extra five minutes to it, just for Venom''s sake, but I guess you can't really do much with Venom, I mean, he kicked Spidey's a, choked him while Sandman was crushing him, and then he beat him up again and easily...so, after doing this, he couldn't really do much more, even since he tries to impale him twice, so, one part of me says he should've had more time, but another part in me says he's time in the film was perfect...

but, the most time I bet you will ever see a Spidey vs. villain(s) battle would be twelve minutes...thirty would be way too long.

 

[Dr.Dude]

YOU DON'T.

It would be a mistake and too costly. Seriously, I think if Sam Raimi does direct SM4, it should be a smaller movie (with a smaller budget), focusing on a much stronger story and character development with one main villain THE LIZARD. Maybe with a secondary villain that compliments The Lizard and Spidey's battle, like KRAVEN THE HUNTER or ELECTRO--but only two villains. And not bigger action scenes, but better, I'm talking creatively.

Agreed--except I want to see the Vulture, but yeah.

I think the important thing here is not to try to top the action scenes--but instead, to make the action scenes different. It doesn't always need to be "bigger and better" with every movie, as long as the villain's powers allow for a variety of different types of action scenes.

Think about the aerial battles Spider-Man could have against the Vulture, dragging him up into the clouds...or the vicious, close and personal battles that could be done with the Lizard...or Electro lighting up Times Square...and that's only some of the options.

 

[spideyman101]

First of all... the train sequence was the best in heart-pounding action.

SM3 fight scenes were brilliant. but train sequence will still top it!

i think they need to stick with the cool choriographed fights instead of using "bigger is better" as your method of fight.

i noticed they used HUGE Sandman a lot... Subway fight was the ONLY sandman fight where he was human sized

i think they should have used more sandman moves that were used in the comics.

 

[BobJM]

Utilize villain's powers and unique effects.

Take advantage of CGI upgrades.

Use new locations/set pieces.

Add emotion.

Add suspense.

Add a great score.

 

[superkong 500]

First of all... the train sequence was the best in heart-pounding action.

SM3 fight scenes were brilliant. but train sequence will still top it!

i think they need to stick with the cool choriographed fights instead of using "bigger is better" as your method of fight.

i noticed they used HUGE Sandman a lot... Subway fight was the ONLY sandman fight where he was human sized

i think they should have used more sandman moves that were used in the comics.

Well I have to disagree with you on something. The subway fight was too short(and it didn't really have any spectacular moves just raw punching) I think that in terms of the fights they didn't do sandman justice only in the armored truck fight which was to me the best fight in the film.

But I agree with you on the fact that they should concentrate more on the moves on a fight and not on the scale, I mean it should be big but not top the battle royale in part 3. They should concentrate on making the villain(hoping is lizard) use all his moves and weapons in cool and creative ways(tail slash,claws etc.) and make spidey do more acrobatic stuff(flip kicks hand standing kicks and cool flips also use the soroundings to his advantage) There are still things that haven't been done that would look amazing onscreen.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Sandman was too big at the end... stupid move.... but w/e... Lizard and Kraven won't be enough guys.... cmon you all know this.... you need another eye candy villain... thrown is a classic... like Vulture... or Shocker for kicks... believe me it makes a difference... Kingpin is a must for the Sinister Six setup... all you need is good writing and execution so don't give me "well if SM3 was crammed...." it can work and its no coincidence why Sandman didn't bite the dust...

 

[lordofthenerds]

Don't throw in silly English reporters to commentate on the battle.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Don't throw in silly English reporters to commentate on the battle.

Best.

Advice.

Ever.

 

[Superhero 101]

You really can't top Spiderman 3 the whole Big Giant Sandman is unbeatable...unless you have Hydroman and he sends a huge Tsunami towards Manhattan like Day After Tomorrow but Hydroman would be to similar to Sandman

But to make Spidey fights good...Well you need to have more fight scenes like Spidey getting punched through buildings more tricks. like the best thing tricks in Sp3 was the Crane Sequence where he was pulling all the walls toward him and going through a tight hole and things like that that is what makes spidey spidey, Have a few air battles between Carnage and Spidey, Lizard a awesome hand to hand brawl things like that...

 

[TimDrake64x]

i dont think that sm3 topped the action scenes from sm2. i mean come on, the train scene...that was one of the best action sequences ever

 

[Havok83]

i dont think that sm3 topped the action scenes from sm2. i mean come on, the train scene...that was one of the best action sequences ever

its been a while siince Ive watched it but I felt Peter vs New Goblin (1st time) was my favorite action sequence in the whole trilogy

 

[DyeLorean]

How on earth do you top the action scenes of 3?

Is this a serious question? The action sequences in 3 are short and not good enough from 2. This is my opinion, of course. Sure, the CGI improved, but they didn't make such good action scenes.

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