How to Engage in Proper Discourse

Discussion in 'SHH Community Forum' started by Asteroid-Man, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    I feel like some people are just bred to be pompous ass holes. I've been seeing this more and more on these boards, that someone will write out their opinion on something, only to have someone reply with some smart ass comment like:
    "....ya think?"
    "Bleh. :down"

    Sometimes it's just a picture:
    :facepalm: :doh: or :whatever:


    Comments like that are merited when replied to someone who's just intentionally trolling or trying to stir up a mess, but then people think it justifies using it instead of a well thought-out response.

    It's like if during a televised debate, one party gives a well constructed opinion on the matter, only to have the other side just go:
    [YT]Uu09Zh4U-j4[/YT]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu09Zh4U-j4

    I've noticed it more and more with the rise in popularity of meme-photos to the general internet public over the last two years (yes, i'm well aware most of these memes started like ten years ago, but the general public didn't become aware of their existence until recently - this makes it more annoying for frequent forum browsers). Sometimes it's even from posters who have been here since before I was. All of a sudden, people think it's ok to be a condescending troll.

    And I'm just going to prematurely say to all those who are going to reply with a simple ":whatever:" "You're wrong." "Bleh" : Yes, haha. Funny. Thank you for being so witty.


    I've also noticed a lot of the time when posters respond with "You are being a troll" "You are being condescending" or "Yes, thanks for that fantastic input" they get super pissed off and defensive. This isn't 4chan people, grow the **** up. If you can't engage in a discussion, don't post.


    I don't mean to rant, just bringing this to peoples' attention. Has anyone else noticed this problem more and more in the recent years?
     
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  2. Marvolo Registered

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    Communication and the way people relay information evolves. In the last 20 years ive seen it evolve radically with the rise of PCs, texting, and things such as twitter. Its simply easier to respond with a gif, meme, or video that says what you are thinking rather than typing up a long drab paragraph. Some call it lazy. I call it efficient. Besides forums are usually made up of words but at times i feel i can better express myself by using a picture or something more than words. And sometimes i just like to change it up and throw in a picture. Really as long as you understand what someone is trying to say and they arent breaking any rules of the forum what is the issue?
     
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  3. Soapy Registered

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    Bingo.

    Also,

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Majik1387 Registered

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    He's just ranting because I said I disliked his Batman reboot concept and said no to his Mary Jane suggestion, despite me not being the only one not liking them.
     
  5. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    The internet has just given us carte blanche to become more smug than normal, that's all. I'm guilty of it, as we all are. But we'd never dare be this smug in real life unless we were sure we could beat the ass of the person we were being smug to. :o
     
  6. The Guard Registered

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    I'm more concerned with people's inability to differentiate between the use of "your" and "you're".
     
  7. BestGirl Reluctantly following Vought's orders

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    Add to that people mistaking "weary" for "wary" and their tendency to say "have/had went" instead of "have/had gone".
     
  8. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    Sometimes it's condescending and troll-ish.
    See here:

    (Also, I haven't read Majik's comment because I recently put him on the ignore list, but I'm going to go ahead and clarify it's not something that commonly happens with me. I've been seeing it a LOT in reply to many posters, and this was just the first time it happened to me and after calling him out on being condescending in a playful way, he got pissed off, and then someone else jumped in with another "one worded" response.)

    Haha, best part is I'm in my twenties.

    That's totally true. I think though that even within most of our smug comments, we've been able to uphold common decency.

    Ouff, I hate that.
     
  9. PWN3R Instagram:@Mannie_Bothans

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    I think Marvolo called it. If your response to a subject/poster can be a achieved in a one picture -- if it has everything you desire to say -- why not just use it?

    So, in essence:
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Manic User title? USER TITLE?!

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    Those grocery store signs that read, "10 items or less" instead of "10 items or fewer" get to you, don't they?
     
  11. Majik1387 Registered

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    Didn't read my post yet has to respond to it. :whatever:

    If we're gonna call a spade a spade, fine here goes.
    Batman Reboot thread
    (this is apparently condescension)

    Mary Jane Watson casting thread
    (this is apparently condescension)
    I'd say A-M was pretty condescending, wouldn't you?
    Which makes this thread pretty hypocritical don't ya think?
     
  12. Marvolo Registered

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    Smartass behavior doesnt bother me online because rarely does a smiley or emoticon indicate what a person is actually doing. I mean do people really ROFL or LMAO? No 99% of the time they are just setting there straightfaced or just chuckle. Its the same with the rolley eye emoticons and smartass emoticons. Its just an emoticon. Not worth my agravation.
     
  13. PWN3R Instagram:@Mannie_Bothans

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    I honestly don't understand why anyone would ever even WANT to use the ignore list. If someone is annoying me that much, you bet your damn ass I want to know what they're saying about me. :D #vanity
     
  14. Majik1387 Registered

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    My ignore list is pretty much just full of homophobes and posters who like to attack me for no reason.

    Other than that, I don't really use the ignore list.
     
  15. Marvolo Registered

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    Lol im too paranoid to put someone on the ignore list. What if they post some amazing news or something crazy and i miss it.
     
  16. The Apocalypse Registered

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    Dude, you're absolutely right. I've been thinking the same thing but I have to tell you...






    :facepalm:
     
  17. BestGirl Reluctantly following Vought's orders

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    Heh, I didn't even know that was grammatically incorrect. Guess I need to turn in my grammar nazi card.

    I've put one person on ignore, and that's only because he posted about a million times a day saying basically the same thing over and over. I just couldn't take it anymore.
     
  18. PWN3R Instagram:@Mannie_Bothans

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    Sometimes Picard needs a break... sometimes you need a little:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. TheWiseGuy487 Feelin’ blue (???) (Undecided/still figuring out)

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    Not to play the Devil's Advocate for Asteroid-Man, but you didn't exactly provide any constructive criticism regarding his suggestion on the matter either. You just posted a one-sentence reply to his post and left it at that, which kind of gives the impression of knowing better than him (which is pretty much what being condescending is). So, it did kind of seem like you were acting condescending toward his comment.

    It also doesn't help that you occasionally posting negative comments in threads you don't even really like that much to begin with (i.e.-- the "lolpics" thread) makes you kind of come across as somewhat of a curmudgeon.

    Not judging you, I'm just saying.

    Not to say that A-M's response to the current situation is any better.
     
  20. Majik1387 Registered

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    I honestly don't see how. Only time I see this attitude from posters is when I disagree with them. If I posted the same kind of one-sentence response in a positive manner to their suggestions, they could care less; he's not the only one these past couple of days, he's just the one today.

    It's only if I say no or disagree with a suggestion of theirs they go into a tantrum that I supposedly hate everyone else's suggestions(which if you checked a couple of posts prior to the ones quotes in the MJ thread, I even gave 5 examples.
    //forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24183879&postcount=128
    No more of a curmudgeon than the countless MLP-haters. Besides, I haven't said anything negative in the lolpics at all.
    Not gonna lie, sounding kinda judgmental.

    Not to say that A-M's response to the current situation is any better.[/QUOTE]
     
  21. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    You take off a glove slowly, finger by finger, and then slap them with it.
     
  22. Kryptonian Warrior The Dawn Is Upon Us

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    Yeah, I personally don't see the point in the ignore list, because it doesn't truly work. The thing that I hate is when you have someone on that ignore, you don't see their initial post, but if someone quotes said person, then you still see the post. Granted I don't have to read the quoted post, but it's kind of hard not to sometimes.
     
  23. Asteroid-Man Registered

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    I don't know about you, but my ass quite literally falls off when I laugh.

    It's like living in a world without these people:
    [YT]Uu09Zh4U-j4[/YT]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu09Zh4U-j4

    In such cases, I'll show their comment if they started a thread. Haha

    And there's that joke! :cwink:

    Thanks WiseGuy, and as mentioned above, I think when someone's response is a bit dickish, you have every right to respond accordingly. Here's an example (again not of me, just to prove that this isn't in fact a matter of personal vendetta, despite what Majik may think).

    Man, do I wish e-slaps were real.

    That's very true. That's how I was just able to see Majik's initial post. Haha
     
  24. chaseter Esteemed Member

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    If you watch the Big Bang Theory...you don't deserve proper discourse.
     
  25. TheWiseGuy487 Feelin’ blue (???) (Undecided/still figuring out)

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    I think it's just because people tend to think you come across as negative a lot of the time, which tends to color their opinions of you and your attitude toward certain things. I'm not saying that's how you are, just that it's how people seem to think you act. It's all about perception.

    I didn't see that post. I apologize.

    I'm talking about the few times you've ventured into that thread posting about how pretty much the majority that thread isn't funny, and then leaving the thread, which comes across as kind of rude. I don't think you were intentionally trying to be; it just reads that way.

    Apologies, I didn't mean to pass judgment. It's just kind of hard to offer constructive criticism over the web without the other poster being able to know what tone I'm delivering it in. Tone can make a big difference in how the other person interprets your post.

    Anyways, I'd say this was a very great lesson in how to engage in proper discourse. :woot:
     

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