How to kill Goblins?

[LarryLegend]

Cheers Larry. Long time no see. I haven't seen you comment on any of the new stuff we know.

What did you think of the new trailer??

Cheers to you too Ock. Its nice to see an old timer and a smart one at that still around.

To answer you're question, I liked the new trailer.

 

[chaseter]

In Spider-Man, Green Goblin's glider impales him in the stomach...and supposedly, in Spider-Man 3, Harry (or the snowboarding, ninja Goblin) gets impaled during the last battle, by Venom...unless he gets impaled by something cool, like from Venom's tentacle (which I don't see happening), shouldn't he die from something else instead of an impalement? Like get his neck broken...or even have Venom pick him up and break his back (Bane breaking Batman's back made me think of this).

Let me explain why...

Although it is cool for neck to break or decapitations and sort, all villians/heroes must digress, apologize, say something, or give one last word. It is just more movie-esque. Would it be better for Harry to sit there, dying and apologize to his best friend and his old girlfriend, holding back the pain...or Venom snaps his neck and it is over. What good movie with a hero or villian doesn't have slow, painful, and remembering deaths. In X2-Lady D reverts to her normal self in front of Wolverine, in SM1-the Goblin asks Peter to not tell his only son of his life, in SM2-Ock dies while redeeming himself...there are tons. How bad would it be for all of those characters to have a quick, meaningless, pointless death?

 

[Spade]

At this point in the movie he would have already taken one hit: A pumpkin bomb to the face. I'd be a little hesitant to believe that Harry is going to bail Pete out.

What's going to make Harry have a sudden change of heart? Is Pete going to take him out to the Ritz for a nice steak dinner? I really hope there is more back story before Harry's death...

I don't think the pumpkin bomb kills him. I'll share a possibility: Peter gets into a skirmish with Harry after Harry heals up from the alleyway beatdown, throws the pumpkin bomb, and thinks he has killed Harry; the thought that Harry is dead leads him to removing the Black Symbiote. Harry then appears to help Peter after being swayed by Peter's desire to save Mary Jane (who Harry is shown to be flirtatious with), but is killed.

That's my thought. As for the impalement? Most likely; Venom is shown stretching out Peter's face with the Black Symbiote, so perhaps he has more control in the film in that regard than in the books. Plus, as stated, a poignant moment where Peter can apologize for his actions when using the Black Symbiote would do wonders for advancing the plot. I would just wish I knew what script summary people are talking about- the Q&A doesn't seem to say anything about how he dies.

 

[Venom 1988]

I don't think the pumpkin bomb kills him. I'll share a possibility: Peter gets into a skirmish with Harry after Harry heals up from the alleyway beatdown, throws the pumpkin bomb, and thinks he has killed Harry; the thought that Harry is dead leads him to removing the Black Symbiote. Harry then appears to help Peter after being swayed by Peter's desire to save Mary Jane (who Harry is shown to be flirtatious with), but is killed.

That's my thought. As for the impalement? Most likely; Venom is shown stretching out Peter's face with the Black Symbiote, so perhaps he has more control in the film in that regard than in the books. Plus, as stated, a poignant moment where Peter can apologize for his actions when using the Black Symbiote would do wonders for advancing the plot. I would just wish I knew what script summary people are talking about- the Q&A doesn't seem to say anything about how he dies.

According to the sciprt summary, Venom gets "shanked". It doesnt by who though(possibly Harry maybe?). Then the symbiote then leaves brock and tries to go after Peter.

 

[Arcturus]

It's probably Harry that ends up killing Venom. A double edged sword. Harry lands the fatal blow on Venom while saving Peter from Venom's attack, which he also sustains.

I agree, Doc Ock. This is how I imagine it to happen as well. I think it will be a good ending for the two villains, and as for Sandman, well who knows what happens to him. But i'm sure Peter will "learn" something from this experience, such as the first two films.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I agree, Doc Ock. This is how I imagine it to happen as well. I think it will be a good ending for the two villains, and as for Sandman, well who knows what happens to him. But i'm sure Peter will "learn" something from this experience, such as the first two films.

that is a good assumption, but the symbiote can only come off brock by loud noise, vibration, and fire...maybe harry has something like that to affect the symbiote, and like ultimate venom says the the symbiote gets shanked off brock and tries to bond with peter again, sounds like the symbiote want's to stay with a host for ever.

 

[Arcturus]

Yeah, in the comics Venom was essentially invunerable to gun fire, stabbings and physical trauma. Only intense sound and heat would hurt him. But i'm going to assume that the movie symbiote will be different.

Time will tell.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, in the comics Venom was essentially invunerable to gun fire, stabbings and physical trauma. Only intense sound and heat would hurt him. But i'm going to assume that the movie symbiote will be different.

Time will tell.

yeah, i was thinking that if harry does not get impaled by venom (which he probably will) he will use some sort of vibration or something and the symbiote will go off brock onto peter then peter starts trying to fight it then harry makes the noise again, dock ock's assumption was really good.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

What the hell would she do, hit Venom with her belly?

Huh?

Gwen isn't fat. And what I meant was Venom could be like Norman in "Spider-Man 1" and throw MJ and Gwen off a construction beam and tells him to "Choose."

He rescues MJ, but his webbing is not too strong to hold Gwen and she falls to her perilous demise.

 

[Arcturus]

Here comes the tidal wave!

Splasssshh!

 

[Venom 1988]

Huh?

Gwen isn't fat. And what I meant was Venom could be like Norman in "Spider-Man 1" and throw MJ and Gwen off a construction beam and tells him to "Choose."

He rescues MJ, but his webbing is not too strong to hold Gwen and she falls to her perilous demise.

That would be kinda cool, in the coming to a "full circle" sense, but would only work if Gwen had a bigger role throughout the trilogy.

 

[Arcturus]

I'm pretty sure, however, to kill a goblin, one must use magic.

 

[Arcturus]

I hope it's Harry who impales Venom.

I hope it's Venom who turns Harry into a pin cushion with steel rebar from the contruction site.

 

[The Joker]

Cheers to you too Ock. Its nice to see an old timer and a smart one at that still around.

Likewise.

All the old greats are gone, or just don't visit this forum anymore. Like Slag, Daisy, The Green Goblin etc.

I miss the old days.

To answer you're question, I liked the new trailer.

As did I, despite a plot point that was confirmed which I really dislike. But on the plus side, it looks like we're getting tons of great action, and some great moments between Peter, Harry, and MJ.

I agree, Doc Ock. This is how I imagine it to happen as well. I think it will be a good ending for the two villains, and as for Sandman, well who knows what happens to him. But i'm sure Peter will "learn" something from this experience, such as the first two films.

I think Sandman will get a happy ever after with his family. I really do.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I think Venom will kill Harry. Then Spidey will muscle up the strength to defeat Venom.

 

[rockportspidey]

As did I, despite a plot point that was confirmed which I really dislike. But on the plus side, it looks like we're getting tons of great action, and some great moments between Peter, Harry, and MJ.

Forgive me for not noticing before Doc, but what was the plot point that you dislike?

 

[The Joker]

Forgive me for not noticing before Doc, but what was the plot point that you dislike?

Sandman being the real killer of Uncle Ben.

 

[rockportspidey]

Sandman being the real killer of Uncle Ben.

Ah yes...I agree 100%. I don't think that will end up being true though. Police make mistakes every day

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think Venom will kill Harry. Then Spidey will muscle up the strength to defeat Venom.

i think that after venom impales harry, spidey will not only start to kick venoms but, venom will be missing punches, it shows how much spidey cares for his best friend, spidey succeeds, after all, the ultimate battle lies within 3.

 

[TheReturnOfP]

Gather around class and listen to Prof. Legend. The above post is a prime example of why Noobs should not be allowed to start threads.

Well I started one, so...try to send a grenade through the internet, and that'll most likely kill me, so you won't have to see any new threads started by this "NOOB". Sorry to waste your time, I'm so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so....so freaking sorry. When did stating ideas and/or questions become a freaking World of Warcraft kind of crap where "noobs" can't say anything...no, no, only people who call themselves Professor Legend can say their thoughts and opinions, right?

 

[rockportspidey]

Well I started one, so...try to send a grenade through the internet, and that'll most likely kill me, so you won't have to see any new threads started by this "NOOB". Sorry to waste your time, I'm so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so....so freaking sorry. When did stating ideas and/or questions become a freaking World of Warcraft kind of crap where "noobs" can't say anything...no, no, only people who call themselves Professor Legend can say their thoughts and opinions, right?

That's right

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That would be kinda cool, in the coming to a "full circle" sense, but would only work if Gwen had a bigger role throughout the trilogy.

something like that can happen in a spidey sequel, the reason for that is so that gwen has a bigger character in the spidey movies, this is the first movie shes in, maybe have it happen in like spidey4 or spidey5 so that we can say hat we saw her in spidey3 now she is returning...also so that we can get use to the character.

i dont think it would take place on a bridge though because that was alreadyused in spidey1, maybe it should take place ontop of a building or something like that.

 

[GoldGoblin]

That scene where spidey is lying on a beam with black webbing around his throat.Maybe Venom is standing over spidey there,and then Harry jumps down from a beam above them.

Then as Harry is about to stab Venom with his sword,Venom punches Harry in the face,and Harry drops his sword at Venom's feet as Harry goes flying across the empty building.

Then Venom picks up Harry's sword and raises it up over his head about to impale spidey who is helpless.Then you see Harry now on his glider flying towards Venom with a knife now in his hand,and Harry crashes into Venom stabbing Venom in the chest with the knife,and the sword Venom was holding over his head impales Harry.

The symbiote crawls off of Brock,and Brock goes falling off the building.Harry falls down next to Peter,and Harry has his blades pop out of his forearm and Harry cuts the black webbing that is around Peter's throat.

 

[Mr Jide]

Likewise.

All the old greats are gone, or just don't visit this forum anymore. Like Slag, Daisy, The Green Goblin etc.

I miss the old days.

Well, slag definately visits he just doesn't post. I was speaking with him briefly yesterday. It was a bit wierd because I used to hate his guts but he's a cool dude and it was the 1st time in a long time that we were cordial to one another.

...and yeah, I miss the old days too. Less bickering, proper discussions and people were more accepting of other people's opinions aside form Mr.P and BB's of course. It was genuinely a much better experience back then.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That scene where spidey is lying on a beam with black webbing around his throat.Maybe Venom is standing over spidey there,and then Harry jumps down from a beam above them.

Then as Harry is about to stab Venom with his sword,Venom punches Harry in the face,and Harry drops his sword at Venom's feet as Harry goes flying across the empty building.

Then Venom picks up Harry's sword and raises it up over his head about to impale spidey who is helpless.Then you see Harry now on his glider flying towards Venom with a knife now in his hand,and Harry crashes into Venom stabbing Venom in the chest with the knife,and the sword Venom was holding over his head impales Harry.

The symbiote crawls off of Brock,and Brock goes falling off the building.Harry falls down next to Peter,and Harry has his blades pop out of his forearm and Harry cuts the black webbing that is around Peter's throat.

nice idea...i can see that happening, the only thing is wouldnt a punch from venom kill harry? or is the serum gas formula that increases harrys strength making him strong enough to take a couple of big blows?