How will Thor be adapated?

[Pluto]

I always liked the idea that, at first, no one, not even Stark, believes that Thor is actually a God. They think he's just a guy with superpowers who went bananas.

I know I love that too! Little did they know.......

 

[StanLee Wannabe]

Marvel films are usually about making "realistic" super-heroes. Radioactive spider bite, radioactive waste creates Daredevil, IronMan uses a techno-suit...etc.

So if they follow that trend their Thor will have to be semi-realistic. I agree he has to still have the god component, but to make it realistic I'd guess they'll introduce Blake. If I were going to do it, I'd basically make a gritty Viking movie, but use the clips as flashbacks. You've got to take the GOD part seriously, but you've got to give him a believable story AND tie him into the Avengers macro-arc.

 

[Marz69]

Here is my point....if Blake is not in thor the solo film....THEN that means thor will have to be casted and be in THOR shape for the IM2 FILM cameo...

That is a LOT to ask of an actor to hit the weights for 3-4 mths for a 2min or less cameo. THEN stay in the same shape to do the THOR movie 4-6mths AFTER the iron man movie wraps!!

This is the reason why i think there will be a blake character due to it's easier to throw on a lab coat, limp with a cane and deliver a few lines with tony stark....of course i could be wrong.

I think there will be some type of Blake character too.

However, if THOR makes a cameo in IM2, he doesn't have to shape up quickly to do it.

- I don't know their exact schedules, but if Thor begins when IM2 ends filming, then the timing is great.

- If Thor films months later, then RDJ can film that one scene in 1 day sometime later during the Thor filming & they can edit it into the IM2 film.

I don't see Thor showing up in THOR attire. He could easily be wearing regular clothes (as THOR) and even comment on the restrictive nature of his shirt.

Or like you said, he could be Blake, and like Nick Fury, talk into the shadows.... and then you see him emerge and limp away (same actor as thor).

 

[Rich Santoro]

I have been kicking around two treatments for the Thor film...

1) As Blake... Thor is essentially banished to Earth, and residing in the body of a deceased Dr. Blake (ala Heaven Can Wait, where Warren Beatty's character is put into the body of another person at the precise moment that person dies). So the movie opens in Asgard. As the story unfolds, Thor is banished for his arrogance and warmongering (needing to learn a lesson is responsibility and humility). *Flash*... On Earth, we see fireman extracting a guy from an auto-accident... he checks for vitals, and says, "He's gone"... then with a gasp, the guy sits up dramatically. He has amnesia, but has flashes of his old life in Asgard... and flashes of Dr. Blake's memories (ala RoboCop... seeing images from Peter Weller's cop character's life). That is how he is able to settle into a life as a doctor, by recovering Blake's doctor knowledge. Loki comes a calling on Earth, to get revenge against Thor. He tracks him to Blake... and bit of a psycological thriller ensues. Eventually Thor has total recall. He realizes the cane that he has been using from the car accident injury is Mjolinir, and voila... The battle ensues. Thor wins, and SHIELD monitored the whole thing... The Thor movie closes with Thor returning to the Blake guise, having learned the importance of taking care of people, rather than reveling in battle-lust. In a post-credits roll (ala IM with Fury), Stark approaches Blake and tells him that he knows who he really is, and would like to talk about something.

2) A little different... Thor is being a god-figure to the ancient Norse peoples of Earth, and is inciting war and blood shed. Odin punishes Thor for his arrogance and warmongering by trapping him in the the middle / dark ages with no powers, except immortality (just like Highlander). He can be injured and even "killed" but he recovers and is forced to move in and out of homes, and situations across the centuries. Through it all, he faces many threats over the ages, helping people against aggressors. He learns what is means to have a purpose (defending those who need help, and serving justice). He keeps in remote areas, living in the laplands of Scandinavia in modern times, with a rural agrarian life-style. Eventually, Loki shows up (for vengance of course). Odin locked Midgard off from other Asgardians, but Loki finally slips through. He assails Thor, but Mjolinir is revealed to be in a cave (subliminal message from Odin perhaps), along with his Asgardian armor and cape, etc. He makes it there just as Loki tries to take him out. The battle ensues... Thor wins. All the conflict, and trans-dimensional energy, sets off SHIELD sensors and IM is sent to investigate. Thor hears something and looks up... He sees and object zoom in from overhead and land nearby. He walks to the top of a nearby hilltop to get a better look. An armored figure looks up at him, and Thor says "What is your purpose?". The close of IM2 has the same scene, but from IM's perspective...

 

[thegameq]

I remember reading somewhere that Matt Vaughn was going to direct and that the film would be more or less based on the Days of Thunder series. Vaughn also, said he wanted the film to be a cross between LOTR and Gladiator.

That was earlier in the year actually.

 

[Rich Santoro]

We know that Branaugh is directing now... but I don't know if that changes the intended plot and story-line.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Too bad Thor isn't a more popular property. It deserves a ****load of money to make it ridiculously epic.

Agreed, like LOTR epci

But i still think with a modest budget it can be much more like The 13th Warrior. I think he could very easily be brought to our time through Ragnarok, pretty much just like the new Thor series the way he brought Asgard to the mortal realm floating over the midwest.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

I'm just excited that Hollywood has finally discovered the real heroes of the Marvel universe.

 

[Chewy]

^ Hollywood didn't - Marvel did. If Marvel hadn't stepped up to do it, Iron Man, Thor and Cap would still be stuck in the same development hell Wonder Woman, Flash, and Shazam are currently stuck in. And you can bet your ass Green Lantern wouldn't be the priority it currently is to WB if Iron Man hadn't been the hit it was.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Hopefully it will be "adapated" better than that guy's spelling. Just kidding.

 

[aka Kal el]

I have been kicking around two treatments for the Thor film...

1) As Blake... Thor is essentially banished to Earth, and residing in the body of a deceased Dr. Blake (ala Heaven Can Wait, where Warren Beatty's character is put into the body of another person at the precise moment that person dies). So the movie opens in Asgard. As the story unfolds, Thor is banished for his arrogance and warmongering (needing to learn a lesson is responsibility and humility). *Flash*... On Earth, we see fireman extracting a guy from an auto-accident... he checks for vitals, and says, "He's gone"... then with a gasp, the guy sits up dramatically. He has amnesia, but has flashes of his old life in Asgard... and flashes of Dr. Blake's memories (ala RoboCop... seeing images from Peter Weller's cop character's life). That is how he is able to settle into a life as a doctor, by recovering Blake's doctor knowledge. Loki comes a calling on Earth, to get revenge against Thor. He tracks him to Blake... and bit of a psycological thriller ensues. Eventually Thor has total recall. He realizes the cane that he has been using from the car accident injury is Mjolinir, and voila... The battle ensues. Thor wins, and SHIELD monitored the whole thing... The Thor movie closes with Thor returning to the Blake guise, having learned the importance of taking care of people, rather than reveling in battle-lust. In a post-credits roll (ala IM with Fury), Stark approaches Blake and tells him that he knows who he really is, and would like to talk about something.

One again Rich we are on the same wavelength! just check out my idea for the teaser trailer. the only difference is after the climax of the movie I would keep him Thor permantly! It fits into the whole is he a God or isn't he thing from ultimates which I feel really plays well in this semi reality Marvel has created. I would still have basically the same epilogue. Only I would have it take place at peace rally where Thor states his intention to change the world. He shows off some off his lightening power. We see TS walking to the crowd. He mumbles to him self"And they say I got a god complex.Stark listens for a moment then interrupts Thor. Hey Goldilocks! if you really want to change the world then have I got a deal for you...Fadeout


2) A little different... Thor is being a god-figure to the ancient Norse peoples of Earth, and is inciting war and blood shed. Odin punishes Thor for his arrogance and warmongering by trapping him in the the middle / dark ages with no powers, except immortality (just like Highlander). He can be injured and even "killed" but he recovers and is forced to move in and out of homes, and situations across the centuries. Through it all, he faces many threats over the ages, helping people against aggressors. He learns what is means to have a purpose (defending those who need help, and serving justice). He keeps in remote areas, living in the laplands of Scandinavia in modern times, with a rural agrarian life-style. Eventually, Loki shows up (for vengance of course). Odin locked Midgard off from other Asgardians, but Loki finally slips through. He assails Thor, but Mjolinir is revealed to be in a cave (subliminal message from Odin perhaps), along with his Asgardian armor and cape, etc. He makes it there just as Loki tries to take him out. The battle ensues... Thor wins. All the conflict, and trans-dimensional energy, sets off SHIELD sensors and IM is sent to investigate. Thor hears something and looks up... He sees and object zoom in from overhead and land nearby. He walks to the top of a nearby hilltop to get a better look. An armored figure looks up at him, and Thor says "What is your purpose?". The close of IM2 has the same scene, but from IM's perspective...

This reminds me a little too much of Hancock and Highlander.

 

[Abstract]

Hopefully it will be "adapated" better than that guy's spelling. Just kidding.

Oops. I didn't even notice until you pointed it out.

 

[Danalys]

i think they are going the right way about it really they need to introduce the thor of legend and myth marvel style. then in the avengers it could be like the ultimates in reverse. we the audience would be sure of thors godhood. so we can see things from his perspective if people doubt that. as for blake i'm not sure if he's appeared in an avengers comic. so there's no reason for him to be in the film. but for a thor sequel perhaps thor would have to be taught another lesson in modern times as blake.

 

[Pluto]

I always liked the idea that, at first, no one, not even Stark, believes that Thor is actually a God. They think he's just a guy with superpowers who went bananas.

OMG Your avatar is soooo cute!

I want one!

 

[Rich Santoro]

Aka Kal el

I think that is your post embedded in the quote box... where you like the first idea, with your change to the peace rally scene.

... I kinda like that angle best myself, but the sans Blake direction where he has been on Earth for centuries could be interesting. I know that it links very closely to Highlander, but there are clear distinctions, and the familiar story may actually help a Thor movie in the area of suspension of disbelief.

Of course, it is just musings put together for SHH, but I am sure other tilts on that idea could work as to make it unique. Nonetheless, the first idea is what I favor the most.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Marvel films are usually about making "realistic" super-heroes. Radioactive spider bite, radioactive waste creates Daredevil, IronMan uses a techno-suit...etc.

So if they follow that trend their Thor will have to be semi-realistic.

Because those aren't anything like the comic origins

 

[aka Kal el]

Aka Kal el

I think that is your post embedded in the quote box... where you like the first idea, with your change to the peace rally scene.

... I kinda like that angle best myself, but the sans Blake direction where he has been on Earth for centuries could be interesting. I know that it links very closely to Highlander, but there are clear distinctions, and the familiar story may actually help a Thor movie in the area of suspension of disbelief.

Of course, it is just musings put together for SHH, but I am sure other tilts on that idea could work as to make it unique. Nonetheless, the first idea is what I favor the most.

And I can respect that as I said before it is all part of the creative process. My question is why is Thor still banished? You would think after all these centuries he would have learned his lesson by now? The reason is it was Loki who convinced his father to punish Thor originally since he knew it was the only way he would ever conqueror Asgard. Since Loki imprisoned Odin he could not end Thor's banishment.

 

[marcvader]

I wouldn't mind the longevity of his punishment being centuries as time doesn't apply to them in the way it does us when it comes to gods.

 

[Rich Santoro]

^ Agreed on that... not to mention, after a while, Thor takes to his life as a mortal, and actual favors doing what he can to help those in need. He finds new fullfillment (sp?) in being in Midgard doing what he can for people...

Loki finds his way to Midgard to find Thor by making a deal with the Enchantress... creating an additional plot device for the introduction of her as a villain in a future film, or even in a component of the Thor movie...

 

[marcvader]

Absolutely

 

[Rich Santoro]

Bottomline, I would say that there are quite a few treatments that can be used for the Thor plot-line. The trick is to make sure the arc into the Avengers makes sense... I for one, don't like too many coincidences (all these super-heros emerge at the same time... boy, how convenient).

I like the Blake scenario in my first example, because it measns that the timing of the Thor film could have been months or even years before the events in IM. SHIELD has data on Thor in their Database after monitoring the conflict with Loki... Then after the decision to build a team (and after IM comes on board) Fury opens the database, and sends Stark out to talk with Blake... That is just a personal quirk about the "coincidences", but even TIH storyline spans 5 years from the first transformation (seen in the openning credits) so there is some timing separation.

*** Another tilt for either direction in a story-line, could be that after the Loki battle, Thor stays as Thor... but goes off to a cave somewhere to meditate and commune with Odin. He pleas with Odin about his redemption and the possibility of returning to Asgard... Then Odin informs him of recent events on Midgard, and the need for a protector... Odins tells Thor that he has a new calling to serve the mortals. So Thor actually seeks out IM, under Odin's instructions. He is not really into the whole thing, but is doing as instructed... Later in the Avengers film, there is a scene where Cap saves the day by wieilding Mjolinir (I prefer the idea of Cap using it, after Thor is knocked aside, to crush the Cosmic Cube). Thor determines that the universe has revealed to him the most noble and pure-hearted warrior... and he commits to fighting by his side for all time.

 

[aka Kal el]

Bottomline, I would say that there are quite a few treatments that can be used for the Thor plot-line. The trick is to make sure the arc into the Avengers makes sense... I for one, don't like too many coincidences (all these super-heros emerge at the same time... boy, how convenient).

I like the Blake scenario in my first example, because it measns that the timing of the Thor film could have been months or even years before the events in IM. SHIELD has data on Thor in their Database after monitoring the conflict with Loki... Then after the decision to build a team (and after IM comes on board) Fury opens the database, and sends Stark out to talk with Blake... That is just a personal quirk about the "coincidences", but even TIH storyline spans 5 years from the first transformation (seen in the openning credits) so there is some timing separation.

*** Another tilt for either direction in a story-line, could be that after the Loki battle, Thor stays as Thor... but goes off to a cave somewhere to meditate and commune with Odin. He pleas with Odin about his redemption and the possibility of returning to Asgard... Then Odin informs him of recent events on Midgard, and the need for a protector... Odins tells Thor that he has a new calling to serve the mortals. So Thor actually seeks out IM, under Odin's instructions. He is not really into the whole thing, but is doing as instructed... Later in the Avengers film, there is a scene where Cap saves the day by wieilding Mjolinir (I prefer the idea of Cap using it, after Thor is knocked aside, to crush the Cosmic Cube). Thor determines that the universe has revealed to him the most noble and pure-hearted warrior... and he commits to fighting by his side for all time.

You know it's a shame you can't copyright that idea! you do realize that the script is still being written. You would be surprised were some of the best ideas come from. Its just a matter of who gets there first(LOL)

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't know if he should come to Earth at all.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

I think that, at least for the Avengers version, they will use the Ultimate Thor.

Thor's "origin", if well done, can be a nice LOTR/Beowulf-like fantasy tale.

 

[xisaacx]

Hasnt there been like a few thors before? So which thor are you talking about?