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The Question said:
The only one who's Thor's equal is Wrecker. The others have a fourth of Thor's strength. And they only have mystically imbuned strength and durability. The kind of magic that Superman is "weak" against is the energy and reality manipulating kinds. Spells and the such. And that's because they effect everyone the same way if they're not spellcasters themselves.



'Course. Way I see it, Batman would be doing against Essex what he tends to do with the League. He's simply the tactical and analytical advisor, with the actual super powered people doing the legwork.

I hear that about Superman, but it really doesn't make sense to me. He gets hurt by things like Double Down's skin cards and bleeds from that. I could easily see someone like the Wrecker, who's weapon is magic, with sharp edges mind you, and the others, who have magical weapons that could actually hold Supe's at bay. (think GL Alan Scott's ring shouldn't be able to hold Superman back really, but since it's magic, it does, as evidenced with Supergirl, who shares the same weakness.) Especially since the Wrecker and his crew are a go for the kill type. And you made the comment about weapons that are specifically meant to cut through things, where Double Down's enchantment was really just to throw magical cards made out of his skin. It wasn't so much that they were intended to cut. And the same does go for other weapons. It wasn't so much that it was an enchanted sword that was meant to cut through anything, it was just an enchanted sword. And the Wrecker's crowbar is really meant to do magical damage. So it would stand to reason that it's magical property (and it does emit magical energy, or else it just wouldn't do anything really) would cause heavy disruptions against Superman, as the other Wrecking Crew members, who's weapons' enchantments stem from the Wreckers.
 
Mistress Gluon said:
I hear that about Superman, but it really doesn't make sense to me. He gets hurt by things like Double Down's skin cards and bleeds from that.

The Cards are designed to be able to cut through anything.

Mistress Gluon said:
I could easily see someone like the Wrecker, who's weapon is magic, with sharp edges mind you, and the others, who have magical weapons that could actually hold Supe's at bay. (think GL Alan Scott's ring shouldn't be able to hold Superman back really, but since it's magic, it does, as evidenced with Supergirl, who shares the same weakness.)

Superman doesn't get weak around magic. That's a misconception. He's just as susceptable to it as everyone else.

Mistress Gluon said:
Especially since the Wrecker and his crew are a go for the kill type. And you made the comment about weapons that are specifically meant to cut through things, where Double Down's enchantment was really just to throw magical cards made out of his skin. It wasn't so much that they were intended to cut.

Yes, they are, since he uses them as weapons. Regular cards can barely cut anything. Cards made of skin shouldn't be able to cut anything at all. His are obviously endowed with mystical cutting abilities.

Mistress Gluon said:
And the same does go for other weapons. It wasn't so much that it was an enchanted sword that was meant to cut through anything, it was just an enchanted sword.

And how was it enchanted? Was it indestructible. Or, as the case is with many enchanted swords, it might have been enchanted to be able to cut through anything.

Mistress Gluon said:
And the Wrecker's crowbar is really meant to do magical damage.

The crowbar is meant to be indestructible, but that combined with The Wrecker's strength would make it a very formadible weapon to use against Supes.

Mistress Gluon said:
So it would stand to reason that it's magical property (and it does emit magical energy, or else it just wouldn't do anything really)

It's enchanted to be indestructible. And even is it gives of magical energy, magic does not weaken Superman. He's simply as susceptible as everyone else.

Mistress Gluon said:
would cause heavy disruptions against Superman, as the other Wrecking Crew members, who's weapons' enchantments stem from the Wreckers.

It would hurt him, but it wouldn't kill him outright.
 
I'd probably like the Wrecking Crew as a Supes enemy.
I'd like Doom better. He's smarter than Luthor, He's got diplomatic immunity to hide behind, his suit gives him power enough to go toe to toe with the FF
and he's a sorcerer second only to Dr Strange.
He'd be a HUGE threat to Supes.

For Batman I see him working as an Agent of or at least alongside Shield.
Probably in the same respect that Cap works for shield. I see him running in the same circles as Cap, Falcon, Nick Fury etc. Or alternatively as a rival to Tony Stark (in the business world at least)

For GL i see the GL corps forming in the wake of the destruction (or crippling) of the Xandar corps and becoming rivals with Richard Rider and his crew as they rebuild their own Corps

For the others i've no ideas at present.
 
Vanguard07 said:
I'd probably like the Wrecking Crew as a Supes enemy.
I'd like Doom better. He's smarter than Luthor, He's got diplomatic immunity to hide behind, his suit gives him power enough to go toe to toe with the FF
and he's a sorcerer second only to Dr Strange.
He'd be a HUGE threat to Supes.


I'd have Supes' arch foe be Count Nefaria. Luthor's brains and Superman's powers.
 
Hawkman

Hawkman would be the ruler of the Thanagarian people, Hawkman and the Thanagarians role would be very much like that of the Sh'iar Empire. Hawkman would not be seen on earth very often, when on earth he would have a close connection to Moon Knight.
 
Martian Manhunter - I'd make him the 'Mythic' Skrull explorer who discovered Earth and colonized Mars over 30,000 years ago. He's re-awakened in present day Mars by the Inhumans and is now finding his way in the present day.

Superman - Easy, Krypton is a off-shoot civilization of the Eternals long forgotten. Clark's origin is the same except he thinks he's the last of an Alien race, but is really an Eternal just the last of the 'Kryptonian Eternals'.


Batman - The location is Chicago instead of Gotham, Bruce's origin is similiar to his DC version accept, when he goes off to train to avenge his parents he finds 'the Hand' who train him, and spends a year as a brainwashed member of the 'Hand' until 'Stick' DareDevil's master finds him and takes him on as a pupil. Bruce returns to Chicago as Batman and has a history with both DD and Elektra.

WonderWoman - Paradise Island similiar to Asgard exsists parallel to our dimension and instead of coming to our world as an 'Ambassador of Peace' she comes to earth to hunt down Hercules, but eventually learns Herc is a descent guy and thinks Earth is a interesting place to explore.


Aquaman - The illegitimate son of Namor and a 'Air-breather' from the surface world Aurthor was conceived during Namor's 'Amnesia years'.
 
Alex Summers said:
If I was to bring Batman over to the Marvel universe I would have Marc Spector/MoonNight have Bruce Waye as his other alter ego. I would then give Marc "Multiple Personality disorder." This would mean that some nights he would be Moon Night, while others he would be Batman.

Damn I kinda like that.
 
The Flash

Wally West would be a mutant with the ability of superspeed, with a speed limit similar to most marvel speedsters, but much like his DC origin, he would still be struck by a bolt of lightning which would kick his mutant power into the next gear (speed force), he would operate out of the LA area. His new origin would be a mix between the Flash and Mimic, where as he has an X-Factor but it wasn't triggered until he was struck by lightning. When in the NY area he would have close friendships with Johnny Storm and Peter Parker.
 
I dont get why people would want Martian Manhunter to be a Skrull, if he was than he wouldn't be a Martian. But whatever.
 
supermarvelman said:
I dont get why people would want Martian Manhunter to be a Skrull, if he was than he wouldn't be a Martian. But whatever.

Because Skrulls are cooler.
 
But then he wouldn't be called Martian Manhunter, he would be called Skrullian Manhunter, and that just doesnt role off the tongue that smooth.
 
supermarvelman said:
But then he wouldn't be called Martian Manhunter, he would be called Skrullian Manhunter, and that just doesnt role off the tongue that smooth.

Unless Taint's idea came into play. Skrull's are colonists. I could see a rogue faction just colonizing Mars.
 
Another idea I heard from Zoken is that he could be of a Deviant and/or Eternal colony on Mars.
 
Mistress Gluon said:
Unless Taint's idea came into play. Skrull's are colonists. I could see a rogue faction just colonizing Mars.

As long as they called themselves Martians and lived on Mars, I'm okay with it.
 
supermarvelman said:
As long as they called themselves Martians and lived on Mars, I'm okay with it.

Most likely, seeing how he'd be trying to fit in, he'd get the name from another hero after he said, "I'm the Skrullian Manhunter from Sol 4." And he'd point, and then someone would say, "OH!! You're like the Martian Manhunter," and then it'd be this huge running thing until he just accepted Martian Manhunter. Until Bendis messed it up.
 
The Question said:
Another idea I heard from Zoken is that he could be of a Deviant and/or Eternal colony on Mars.

I dunno. Just doesn't feel as good as a Skrull.
 
Well, some Deviants and Eternals have been known to have powers similar to J'onn's. Wheras The Skrulls only have the shapeshifting. Remember, the Deviant's are the single most genetically flawed speicese in the Marvel Universe. A flaw in their genetice code caused random mutation in every child that's born. Most of them are only barely the same speicese as one another. So, it makes sense that one could conceivably be born with J'onn's powers.
 
Mistress Gluon said:
Most likely, seeing how he'd be trying to fit in, he'd get the name from another hero after he said, "I'm the Skrullian Manhunter from Sol 4." And he'd point, and then someone would say, "OH!! You're like the Martian Manhunter," and then it'd be this huge running thing until he just accepted Martian Manhunter. Until Bendis messed it up.

Why would they say that though if MM never existed.
 
The Question said:
Well, some Deviants and Eternals have been known to have powers similar to J'onn's. Wheras The Skrulls only have the shapeshifting. Remember, the Deviant's are the single most genetically flawed speicese in the Marvel Universe. A flaw in their genetice code caused random mutation in every child that's born. Most of them are only barely the same speicese as one another. So, it makes sense that one could conceivably be born with J'onn's powers.

Skrull's are known for their experiments on themselves as well, so I could easily see a Super Skrull as the sole survivor of an extinction event brought on by the larger Skrull empire.

Though you are correct. Though ALL Eternal's are capable of his powers, just not all progress in it.
 
But would he just be another type of Super-Skrull? What about the original Super-Skrull.
 
How about just making him a f**king Martian?
 
Then, during the final days of the war, captain america was trying to stop a bomb-loaded drone-plane launched by Nazi technician Baron Heinrich Zemo when the plane exploded, killing his partner Bucky; and throwing him unhurt into icy Arctic waters. The Super-Soldier formula prevented crystallization of Captain America's bodily fluid, allowing him to enter a state of suspended animation.

Decades later, he was rescued when he washed ashore on Paradise Island, the Amazon's isolated homeland. Princess Diana nursed him back to health, and fell in love with him. When the goddess Aphrodite declared that it was time for an Amazon to travel to "Man's World" with captain america, a tournament was held to determine who would be the Amazon champion. Although forbidden by her mother, Queen Hippolyte, to participate in the tournament, Princess Diana did so nevertheless, her identity hidden by a mask.

Princess Diana won and was alowed to go with Captain America.....

well that would be wonder woman in the marvel U.
 

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