Hulk News At Comic Con Guess Whos Voicing The Hulk

[GuywiththeGun]

Hulk talks. He should talk in the movie. Nuff said.

 

[DACMAN]

Someone with some sense

 

[Spade]

Just because some of us don't want the Hulk portrayed as an oafish ape on the big screen doesn't mean we don't have "sense".

 

[Advanced Dark]

Nobody wants him to be an oafish ape. In fact he should have more control over his demons now than in the first film. His father absorbed some of his power and rage so he should be smaller in more able to control what's left which I'm assuming is still quite a bit.

 

[Lex Luthor]

Lou is voicing The Hulk? No worries here.

However, I hope they keep him a bit more like he was seen in Ang Lee's HULk, and not a redux of The Incredible Hulk from the TV series (i.e. Lou in makeup, or man in suit). CGI was good in the first, and I can only imagine how much better it can be for '08.

 

[DACMAN]

Just because some of us don't want the Hulk portrayed as an oafish ape on the big screen doesn't mean we don't have "sense".

Did I say that we want an "oafish ape"? I didn't say that. No one did. In fact, I think the HULK seemed more like an "oafish ape" in the first WITHOUT talking. He seemed like a brain damaged Banner as opposed to a completely different personality. If he were to speak (like GASP in the comics!) the audience could feel for the HULK unlike the first. He would have character. They could talk about Banner's MPD. I think it has been pretty well proven when people go to far from the source material, people don't react well to it. Why would that be any different with a HULK movie? I want to see HULK in a HULK movie. It's not that hard to understand. Have you ever read a HULK comic?

 

[Sava]

Did I say that we want an "oafish ape"? I didn't say that. No one did. In fact, I think the HULK seemed more like an "oafish ape" in the first WITHOUT talking. He seemed like a brain damaged Banner as opposed to a completely different personality. If he were to speak (like GASP in the comics!) the audience could feel for the HULK unlike the first. He would have character. They could talk about Banner's MPD. I think it has been pretty well proven when people go to far from the source material, people don't react well to it. Why would that be any different with a HULK movie? I want to see HULK in a HULK movie. It's not that hard to understand. Have you ever read a HULK comic?

..f**k me, you are right, if someone doesnt say that he's sad, people just wont get it, dammit, you are so right. Somebody give this guy a mother f**king award

 

[Ions]

I think the HULK seemed more like an "oafish ape" in the first WITHOUT talking.

I totally disagree, he appeared rather intelligent in places. Speaking doesn't prove intelligence.
As well when he spoke, he sounded like someone smart enough not to waste time talking to things he had no real interest in. He spoke to Bruce though, to voice his disgust of Bruce. He also did the same towards the father. Also the reason they didn't include more dialogue was, wait for it, was the fear of the audience/fanbase reaction to his speaking(both how he spoke, and the type of voice used). Watch the extras on the dvd if you want to confirm this.

I want to see HULK in a HULK movie. It's not that hard to understand.

Alot of Hulk fans, including alot of people who weren't fans of the movie give the movie credit for putting Hulk up on the screen. While it may not fit for you, alot of others don't feel the same. They might of preferred a different sized Hulk, or a different Origin. They still enjoyed the action and Hulk behaviour.

Have you ever read a HULK comic?

This is one of the most petty arguments around. This is a last resort for people running out of arguments. Don't do it again.
Less = More.

 

[DACMAN]

..f**k me, you are right, if someone doesnt say that he's sad, people just wont get it, dammit, you are so right. Somebody give this guy a mother f**king award

Sad? What...? What the heck are you talking about?

 

[DACMAN]

I totally disagree, he appeared rather intelligent in places. Speaking doesn't prove intelligence.
As well when he spoke, he sounded like someone smart enough not to waste time talking to things he had no real interest in. He spoke to Bruce though, to voice his disgust of Bruce. He also did the same towards the father. Also the reason they didn't include more dialogue was, wait for it, was the fear of the audience/fanbase reaction to his speaking(both how he spoke, and the type of voice used). Watch the extras on the dvd if you want to confirm this.
Alot of Hulk fans, including alot of people who weren't fans of the movie give the movie credit for putting Hulk up on the screen. While it may not fit for you, alot of others don't feel the same. They might of preferred a different sized Hulk, or a different Origin. They still enjoyed the action and Hulk behaviour.
This is one of the most petty arguments around. This is a last resort for people running out of arguments. Don't do it again.
Less = More.

Why do you think it is alot of people are speaking up about wanting a different origin, or different size HULK, or a HULK that speaks? Because it has drifted so far from the source material. How often have you heard someone say "You know, I liked Superman, I just wish they changed his origin for the movie". People don't because they were true to the comics. People complain when they shift gears away from what has worked, and what has made it popular enough to warrent a movie. So, how is bringing up the fact the movie was so far away from the comic, that sometimes I question whether or not people have actually read it before defending the film a last resort? It is not a last resort of people running out of ideas, but the main point we try to make.

IT'S FRICKEN SIMPLE. THE HULK TALKS IN THE COMICS, HE SHOULD TALK IN THE MOVIE!

What would you guys say to a Superman movie, or a Batman movie, or Punisher movie where he talks maybe once. People would be pissed. But you know, at the end of the day, Clark Kent IS Superman. Bruce Wayne IS Batman. What if the super hero of the movie was a completely different personality? What if the title character was created to be a totally different being than the man? And that totally different being never talked. Didn't speak when the source material has him speak in just as much as other characters? Answer the question. Have any of you actually read a HULK comic? How interesting would "Planet HULK" be if he never spoke. Or "The End" by Peter David. Not very.

I'm a Stan Lee's HULK fan, not an Ang Lee's HULK fan. He changed it too much.

 

[Cracker Jack]

I'm a Stan Lee's HULK fan, not an Ang Lee's HULK fan.

Damn. I should have said that

 

[Sava]

Sad? What...? What the heck are you talking about?

thats what you were saying, if Hulk doesnt talk, no one will know what he's thinking or how he feels, no one will "connect" with him cause he doesnt talk ...

 

[Ions]

Why do you think it is alot of people are speaking up about wanting a different origin, or different size HULK, or a HULK that speaks? Because it has drifted so far from the source material. How often have you heard someone say "You know, I liked Superman, I just wish they changed his origin for the movie". People don't because they were true to the comics. People complain when they shift gears away from what has worked, and what has made it popular enough to warrent a movie. So, how is bringing up the fact the movie was so far away from the comic, that sometimes I question whether or not people have actually read it before defending the film a last resort? It is not a last resort of people running out of ideas, but the main point we try to make.

IT'S FRICKEN SIMPLE. THE HULK TALKS IN THE COMICS, HE SHOULD TALK IN THE MOVIE!

What would you guys say to a Superman movie, or a Batman movie, or Punisher movie where he talks maybe once. People would be pissed. But you know, at the end of the day, Clark Kent IS Superman. Bruce Wayne IS Batman. What if the super hero of the movie was a completely different personality? What if the title character was created to be a totally different being than the man? And that totally different being never talked. Didn't speak when the source material has him speak in just as much as other characters?

What does drift from source have to do with our discussion? Last time I checked we were talking about whether Hulk was expressive or not. If you want to turn this into a true to comic crusade, start a new thread and go from there.
Moving on, no one has said he shouldn't speak. Ask CJ and then yourself a few weeks back when I reinforced this point beyond any confusion. You can go here and reminisce through direct reading of our previous discussion e.g. Hulk's voice. I can accept someone who wasn't involved in that discussion to have forgotten/not known. But the person I was discussing it with. Yikes.
When you said "good points" to me I guess you weren't being honest, if you are still going on like this.
Moving on, what does Superman, Batman and Punisher have in common with Hulk? When does Superman turn into a monster? The alien Superman pretends to be the human Clark Kent, Superman is Clark, he doesn't turn into a human when hes Clark! Or Batman turn into a monster? Bruce Wayne is Batman! or Punisher turn into a monster? Frank Castle is Frank Castle the "Punisher"! Still alien humanoid/human regardless, with no change in minds. These are different beings to Bruce/Hulk dynamic and don't go on to provide evidence. There just aren't many characters like Hulk. Hulk also wasn't chatty much in the first short issue stretch before cancellation. Certainly wasn't talking anywhere as other writers have him. Why do people expect the film to cover Hulk from the entire series? Does the word Origin confuse you? This was Bruce's film, clearly. This is a forum for the sequel, Hulk 2. Get over it Dac. Bury the dead horse and move on.

Answer the question. Have any of you actually read a HULK comic? How interesting would "Planet HULK" be if he never spoke. Or "The End" by Peter David. Not very.

That's 2 desperate jumps in one post. Firstly: yes I have, the Essential books, and all the comics from renumbering(the reset back at the end of the last decade) through to today(which includes Planet Hulk). I'd have more but I don't have alot of spare cash to afford buying back issues(which I have to source from the U.S., which means I pay as much for shipping as the issues themselves), as I follow multiple interests(gaming, movies, other comics/manga). I do collect Incredible Hulk month to month, as well as any minis that turn up(besides my Ultimates, Ultimate X-men, Astonishing X-men month purchases). As well as the novelization of the Hulk movie, and Ultimate Hulk figure from the Ultimates range of 12". Hulk poster on my wall.
Should I go on justifying myself to you? Should I hire a lawyer to confirm all this information for you? Provide witnesses and phone number to the comic store I buy from?
So if I end up having missed some issues you haven't, does that make you more justified making a point(irregardless of what little that has to do with anything in any discussion)? So that means someone with more comics is more justified than you to? So it goes down to the collector with the most Hulk content who wins? Don't you see how childish that is?

I'm a Stan Lee's HULK fan, not an Ang Lee's HULK fan. He changed it too much.

Stop resting on a unifier like that. There's not a great deal of unifying things in Hulk world. Marie Severin's Hulk is my fav appearance, as great as some of the recent artists versions, I just prefer hers. But you won't find everyone likes that. Alot like the more apelike appearance. Others prefer the more Frankenstein monster appearance. Or the veined up insane bodybuilder appearance. And that can go on forever. Let alone versions of Hulk based on writers.
Again, that's not even any argument, simply to deflect having to make a good argument about what's being discussed and get support. Even if its support only about that one sentence.
What does "Stan Lee" have to do with this argument? What does how Hulk appeared in the first film have to do with this sentence? How does that change history? How does that alter the scenes in any way? How does that alter Hulk's expressiveness? Or the fact fans of the comic who didn't like the movie will give credit to the Hulk appearance/behaviour.
Eh CJ? Sitting out this discussion, eh?
Did you know Stan Lee(the man) did a video interview over on the movie website? And praised Ang's adaption, and the updating of the origin and all the other stuff? Going on about how its good to see more real science being involved with the origin. I love how hardcore Hulk fans, who totally give it up for Stan Lee's Hulk, totally omit that from memory.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Eh CJ? Sitting out this discussion, eh?
Did you know Stan Lee(the man) did a video interview over on the movie website?

Well, to steal The Kiss tag line

YOU WANTED THE BEST YOU GOT THE BEST

About Stan Lee. I wouldn't exactely call it praising Ang Lee.

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/448/448296p1.html

"IGN DVD: In watching it, I felt like Ang Lee tried to put a little too much through it. My big problem was the whole father/son relationship.

Stan Lee: Well that was the part where I say I would have done some things differently. It also ran a little too long and there was too much about the scientific part of it. But that's Ang Lee, and he certainly did what he did well. I don't expect every movie to be done exactly the way I would have done it."

Getting back to if The Hulk should talk or not. Why is it that all we hear is he'll sound stupid saying "Hulk Smash" or "Hulk is the strongest one there is" ? Are these the only things he ever said? I do believe he's said a few other things as well. Maybe he won't talk in the third person. Maybe he will. Maybe he'll just talk normal but in the deep voice from the first movie. Who knows. One thing for sure is he has said a lot more than he standard "Hulk Smash" and "Hulk is the strongest one there is". And he does need to talk. Some people may have been able to see what he was thinking and or feeling. Other thought that by him not talking took away from his personality. What if they make a Thor movie? Should Thor talk the way he does in the comic? Or will that should stupid as well? People said the Spider-Man should wise crack because it would sound stupid. Well that turned out pretty good and believe it or not, that's part of who Spider-Man is. Take it away and you take away part of who he is.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

"Hulk Smash!" may not sound bad to us, people who have read the comics or seen the cartoons, etc. BUT, people had a hard time believing the Hulk was even real in the first movie, if he starts shouting out his TRADEMARK comments, do you really think the general audience will just accept it?

 

[Cracker Jack]

"Hulk Smash!" may not sound bad to us, people who have read the comics or seen the cartoons, etc. BUT, people had a hard time believing the Hulk was even real in the first movie, if he starts shouting out his TRADEMARK comments, do you really think the general audience will just accept it?

I don't know. I'd like to think that there're more Hulk fans out there, that really know the Hulk, besides us guys one Hulk boards. Personally, I hope he talks like the Gray Hulk and only if asked a question

Exp

Abomy: I'm going to pound you into the Earth Hulk

Hulk: (Slightly under his breath) Come and get some tuff guy.

I think that would make everyone happy. But still, Somehow, someway they have to fit in a "Hulk Smash" somewhere in the movie. And no, I don't know how they can or will be able to do that. That's their job to figure out

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Well did he ever speak in the T.V series much? As thats the perception of the Hulk that most of the general audience seem to have.

 

[Ions]

Oh I know, have Hulk say "Hulk..." and where he says Smash you can't hear him clearly(though you can see him say "smash!") because of all the smashing sounds from whatever he's smacking the crap out of. Problem solved!

 

[Ions]

Exp

Abomy: I'm going to pound you into the Earth Hulk

Hulk: (Slightly under his breath) Come and get some tuff guy.

Haha i'd prefer him do like he did to the dogs, give them a provocative "come and get some of the hurting *****es!" growl mixed with the glare from his eyes. I'll make an animation of that scene for effect.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Haha i'd prefer him do like he did to the dogs, give them a provocative "come and get some of the hurting *****es!" growl mixed with the glare from his eyes. I'll make an animation of that scene for effect.

Sure, you’d prefer that but it would work don't you think? A part in the movie where it would have worked, IMO, is when he racked himself with the barrel of the tank and he yells "OWWWW" Now this is just me but I think it would have been funny if, after that, again slightly under his breath, he said "Stupid Tank, I'll Smash stupid tank!!" I know, I know, it sound silly but haven't you ever talked to an inanimate object after a similar thing happened? I've destroyed things for less and have gotten great pleasure from letting it know I was going to smash it. LOL

 

[Ions]

Sure, you’d prefer that but it would work don't you think? A part in the movie where it would have worked, IMO, is when he racked himself with the barrel of the tank and he yells "OWWWW" Now this is just me but I think it would have been funny if, after that, again slightly under his breath, he said "Stupid Tank, I'll Smash stupid tank!!" I know, I know, it sound silly but haven't you ever talked to an inanimate object after a similar thing happened? I've destroyed things for less and have gotten great pleasure from letting it know I was going to smash it. LOL

Hahaha actually that'd be good. Especially after that loud "OWWW".
Stupid tank would of been fine. Just as long as "Stupid [enter object]" doesn't become a recurring theme.

 

[Cracker Jack]

I enjoyed the way the Hulk talked in the comics when I was a kid. I must admit that when I read them today it does sound kind of corny but, to me, that was The Hulk. I don't know if that would work today or in a movie. "Duh, Hulk not like punny humans" I cringe at the thought. I seriously doubt that they will go that way. I think more like the Gray Hulk is what we'll hear. Short and sweet, "BAH! PUNNY HUMANS". Now that we've settled that, Who wants to see the "Thunder Clap"! OHHHHHHH YEAH BABY!!!

 

[Ions]

Now that we've settled that, Who wants to see the "Thunder Clap"! OHHHHHHH YEAH BABY!!!

They could have nice gamma radiation green effect in his hand as he claps. As the gamma energy looked as David absorbed it?
Causing a small force wave.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The Thunderclap is something i DEFINATELY want to see in TIH.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Oh good. Something we can agree on. WOO WHOOOOO