I Am Doom....discuss me [merged-2]

[darth_coolius]

if doom went up in the station to install a weapon, then i'd have reed find out and try to stop him, and their confrontation causes a malfunction or something.

 

[Senshi]

Well this might sound really horrible but you guys asked for an alternative to installing a weapon on the space station so here it goes... What if Doom knew about the "cosmic rays"? Maybe it could be his mission to go in to space and try and collect the comic energy and harness it so that he could create a new weapon of mass destruction. The cosmic energy could be 100 times more powerful than a nuclear blast and it would give Doom the edge he needed over the rest of the world in order to reclaim Latveria. While in space Doom begins to draw the cosmic energy towards the space shuttle in an attempt to collect it. Reed discovers Doom's plan and stops him. Doom uses an escape pod and gets away, But his tampering with the cosmic waves cause them to become unstable and tear through the shuttle. Doom watches from the escape pod as his rivals and his dream seem to die. When the Esacpe Pod comes back to earth there is a crash and Doom is horribly disfigured....
Well that's all I have to say.

 

[Senshi]

In the Mark Frost´s script, Doom as already a lauch schedule and a pilot ready (Johnny) before Reed´s tells him about the idea of going into space to study the cosmic rays.
It´s all too convinient to the point of being weird...

Now, imagine this...
What if Doom already knew about the cosmic rays and their mutagenic properties?
What if it wasn´t Reed to go up to Doom, but the other way around?
What if Doom wanted to use Reed, Ben and Johnny as guinea pigs and Susan was pure bad luck and timing?
Do you think that Doom would mind if a woman was affected too, would he lose any sleep because of that?
Isn´t that the kind of things that Doom does to acchieve ultimate power?
The thing is, he wasn´t expecting that kind of side effects (powers)....
This way, you have a reason for them to fight Doom and to Victor be much more menacing and more Doom like...

Ah I just read this after I posted!

 

[Zev]

Or what if Doom wanted to harness the cosmic rays and redirect them into Latveria. Suddenly, everyone there has powers. Powers enough to overthrow the outnumbered Communist ruling party (remember, going by the "Royal family massacred by commies, country renamed, Doom flees to America and names his new corporation Latveria to show that he's coming back" theory of mine). Then they will bow down and pay homage to their savior, DOOM, who will take over the world with his superpowered army! BWAHAHAHAHA!

That could be a great moment too, when everyone thinks it's some sort of death ray. Reed says "Your new weapon will never work, Doom!"

And Doom just turns to him and says with infinite arrogance. "Weapon? Who said ANYTHING about a MERE WEAPON?"

God, sometimes I'm so brilliant I scare myself!

 

[darth_coolius]

Or what if Doom wanted to harness the cosmic rays and redirect them into Latveria. Suddenly, everyone there has powers. Powers enough to overthrow the outnumbered Communist ruling party (remember, going by the "Royal family massacred by commies, country renamed, Doom flees to America and names his new corporation Latveria to show that he's coming back" theory of mine). Then they will bow down and pay homage to their savior, DOOM, who will take over the world with his superpowered army! BWAHAHAHAHA!

That could be a great moment too, when everyone thinks it's some sort of death ray. Reed says "Your new weapon will never work, Doom!"

And Doom just turns to him and says with infinite arrogance. "Weapon? Who said ANYTHING about a MERE WEAPON?"

God, sometimes I'm so brilliant I scare myself!

No thanks. I don't want this movie to be mocked on Mystery Science Theatre.

 

[snazzy J]

Or what if Doom wanted to harness the cosmic rays and redirect them into Latveria. Suddenly, everyone there has powers. Powers enough to overthrow the outnumbered Communist ruling party (remember, going by the "Royal family massacred by commies, country renamed, Doom flees to America and names his new corporation Latveria to show that he's coming back" theory of mine). Then they will bow down and pay homage to their savior, DOOM, who will take over the world with his superpowered army! BWAHAHAHAHA!

That could be a great moment too, when everyone thinks it's some sort of death ray. Reed says "Your new weapon will never work, Doom!"

And Doom just turns to him and says with infinite arrogance. "Weapon? Who said ANYTHING about a MERE WEAPON?"

God, sometimes I'm so brilliant I scare myself!

That sounds an awful lot like Magneto's plan in X-Men.

 

[Zev]

Damn, all the best ideas are taken! Okay, what if he just channeled all the powers into himself to become some sort of 'Super-Doom' for a big-time ending confrontation? He's 'defeated' and loses his powers, but lives to fight another day.

 

[snazzy J]

Damn, all the best ideas are taken! Okay, what if he just channeled all the powers into himself to become some sort of 'Super-Doom' for a big-time ending confrontation? He's 'defeated' and loses his powers, but lives to fight another day.

Okay, now you're not even trying.

 

[Herr Logan]

*wince*

Never thought I'd see the day I'd be liking Sardaukar's idea better than Zev's. Crazy, crazy world. Stuff has to start making sense again, soon, or I'm going to be upset.

 

[Zev]

*wince*

Never thought I'd see the day I'd be liking Sardaukar's idea better than Zev's. Crazy, crazy world. Stuff has to start making sense again, soon, or I'm going to be upset.

Hey, no one is more upset about it then me! Just give me a minute here... aha!

Okay, this is going to get a little crazy, but bear with me. There's a random fifth guy in the FF shuttle who's killed by his exposure to the cosmic rays. His body can't handle the powers he's trying to receive and shuts down. So, Doom plans to saturate the entire world with cosmic rays. Reed points out that statistically, one in five could be killed. Only the weak, Doom replies. "There is no room for the weak in my new world order..."

Okay, that's still a bit like X-Men. But darnit, I really like the "who said it was a weapon?" thing. One more sec...

Keep in mind that Doom's plan can't be something beneficial, but not work, because that's kinda like X-Men and Doom doesn't make mistakes. So it has to be something evil, but I don't want to do the death ray thing...

Okay, Doom plans to use the station like a magnifying glass to collect and point the cosmic rays at, let's say, New Guinea under the 'lets see what happens' doctrine. Reed says they don't know what will happen, the effect could be too large to contain, there could be untold damage.

"That," Doom sneers, "is why they call it an experiment."

Eh? Eh?

He could also try to make a larger scale version of the device he used to try and contact his parents in the afterlife, but that was done in Spider-Man 2.

Wait, I got it! Doom has planted a 'space capsule' with small amounts of biological material, air, H20, etc, on the moon. The building blocks of life. He plans to direct the cosmic rays at that area on the Moon and basically capture lightning in a bottle. He succeeds and creates a small oasis, a 'Blue Area of the Moon', if you will. Then he turns the station towards Earth for his own nefarious ends. People have become fat, complacent, stagnent. He's going to give evolution a kick. Reed says that exposure that focused will irradiate the Earth, rendering it sterile. Doom disagrees, but makes sure that he'll 'fire' on the opposite side of the Earth from Latveria. Just in case.

 

[Herr Logan]

Right now, the original comic book story is looking extremely good as a plot in a movie.

 

[Zev]

What, using a time machine to go back and steal Blackbeard's treasure?

How about... Doom tests the station laser (I know, I know) on the Moon. The area is slagged. Some parts are invisible (but revealed by lunar dust), others are on fire but don't turn to ash (like the American flag planted by Neil Armstrong, in a "get the audience angry at the villain" visual), others are carbonized into craggy rock, still others have stretched out like Dali watches. Doom plans to use the laser in precision strikes on power plants around the world. Every power plant that is harmful to the environment, in fact. After which, he will beam down energy from the station (using the cosmic rays to generate the power) and use it to power the world. Any region that challenges his rule will be literally shut down.

"But can you harness the cosmic rays?" Reed asks.

"What do you think is powering this space station, simpleton?"

Reed points out that in the ensuing black-outs and chaos, millions will die. A necessary sacrifice in Doom's eyes. What about the cosmic rays, though? How can Doom be sure they'll be around long enough to be a viable power source?

"My calculations indicate that they'll linger for the next hundred years. Long enough to build safe, clean, renewable energy sources for the planet. And that energy will be my legacy."

"And all you ask in return is blind obedience."

"Such a small price to pay for unquestionable security, wouldn't you agree?"

On the other hand, he could turn the ray on microbes and hyper-evolve them into an unstoppable army of super-predators, vulnerable only to the selfsame cosmic rays that created them (i.e., the Fantastic Four!). BWAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Herr Logan]

Blackbeard's treasure? Hey, why not?

No, I meant Victor Von Doom blowing up his lab while doing a dangerous experiment (the mother-in-Hell plot specifics don't need to be explored thoroughly if it will save time and make sure not to *gasp* alienate the general audience) that Richards told him was a mistake, clamping a searing hot mask over his barely scratched face and taking the title "Doctor" when he didn't finish his formal education. The vanity component to Dr. Doom can't possibly be portrayed any better than having him mess up his own face in his desperate attempt to hide a single, insignificant scar. I like the vanity component of the character, and if you introduce the specifics of that aspect later on in the film as something to exploit and use against the Latverian monarch, that could be some damn good storytelling if done right.

 

[Sardaukar]

Good ideas everyone.

I was thinking about this and what if Doom and Reed's company was involved in creating space-based nuclear weapons technology for the US government? This would make sense seeing as how missile defence and the weaponization of space is a big issue and is actually right around the corner.

The FF's final launch with Doom could be part of some kind of public relations plan that's promoting the completion of the whole system. But of course, after the crash it's discovered that Doom's made sure he's in actual control of the whole weapons system and he's going to use it to start blowing up targets unless the world listens to his demands.

The only negative part of this whole thing is why would a great guy like Reed be involved in making weapons tech. in the first place? Maybe that could be a subplot...Reed feels guilty about what he's done and has to prove himself and fix things by stopping Doom (makes it more personal between the two characters).

 

[The Batman]

Someone says he's a Lex ripoff, someone says hes exactly like Doom in the comics. Another says he has the power to create organic metal, another says he cant.

Whats the deal?

 

[bweurk]

actually you can't make a faithfull doom in one movie...

 

[Kelly]

Someone says he's a Lex ripoff, someone says hes exactly like Doom in the comics. Another says he has the power to create organic metal, another says he cant.

Whats the deal?

The deal is "different strokes for different folks" its all about a difference of opinion.....which will always happen in these circumstances......so I say read alot, gripe alittle, sit back and enjoy a Fantastic Movie.........

 

[The Batman]

Ok...What I'm pretty much asking is...whats Doom gonna be like in this movie?

 

[bweurk]

The deal is "different strokes for different folks" its all about a difference of opinion.....which will always happen in these circumstances......so I say read alot, gripe alittle, sit back and enjoy a Fantastic Movie.........

different strokes????????? you mean Arnold and Willy??? never mention this Tv show, it is doomed

 

[Kelly]

Ok...What I'm pretty much asking is...whats Doom gonna be like in this movie?

LMAO..........at this point.....your guess is as good as anyones on this board....

 

[ultimatefan]

It´s a little hard to tell exactly at this point... But it seems from different script drafts out there that Doom isn´t quite the same character as in comics (potential SPOILERS ahead).




He´s a businessman, he´s involved with the trip to space, he gets contamined by the cosmic ray cloud, he develops an organic metal armor. He was Sue´s fiancee prior to the accident and gets jealous of Reed. Some of us who read it think he´s still an interesting characters, some think he´s not. A recent script review - but that we don´t know for sure if is about the shooting draft - has Doom disappearing for a while after the space trip and showing up mutated and in all crazy mode, stealing motorcycles and such...

 

[Sardaukar]

Ok...What I'm pretty much asking is...whats Doom gonna be like in this movie?

An abomination.

 

[bweurk]

don't steal my place

 

[bweurk]

is doctor doom's suit puffy?

 

[TNC9852002]

There is no suit..

-TNC