I Am Doom....discuss me [merged-2]

Herr Logan said:
You're a slow-witted child and I don't like you. :)

Your logic is faulty. Assuming that I don't "see anything positive in anything" based on seeing me b1tch about a few creative failures on the internet is the epitome of ignorant. You're a complacent, deluded, inferior specimen of human life that is far more suited to painting rainbow murals on the walls of condemned buildings than even attempting to assess what my capabilities are.

Flame away, child. I've been ready for your nonsense since before you even heard of this site. :wolverine

Nah thats ok. My previous post was out of line and I apologize. Although I probably disagree with you on everythng, at least you back up your opinions and stick to your guns. It's just that some people on this site, see the slightest damn thing they don't like and proceed to act like it is WWIII, and fail to offer any shred of insight of why something is sooooooooooo bad.

;)
 
Ant-Man said:
Nah thats ok. My previous post was out of line and I apologize. Although I probably disagree with you on everythng, at least you back up your opinions and stick to your guns. It's just that some people on this site, see the slightest damn thing they don't like and proceed to act like it is WWIII, and fail to offer any shred of insight of why something is sooooooooooo bad.

;)

In that case, I withdraw approximately 80% of the venomous and derisive content of my last exchange with you. ;)

:wolverine
 
LightninStrikez said:
1tlywz


Yep, they really have. This is truly "Doom In Name Only".













:rolleyes:















:cool:

The costume doesn't prove anything. If they mess up all of the elements of the character minus his costume, this Doom is exactly Doom In Name Only. Or just a guy with a cool outfit.

I mean, what about movie Doom being a romantic rival of Richards? WHat about him being a tycoon? What about him having basically a bad skin condition (herr.,..I mean mutation)? This is really straying as far as the original character as Gary Oldman's Dracula...
 
I agree Everyman, it is indeed Doom in name only.........
 
Herr Logan said:
Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if they do change Doom to match Movie!Doom.

I also won't be surprised if they give Superman in the comics a red trenchcoat to match my apocalyptic prediction of Movie!Superman. :(

:wolverine

And then Superman has to save Metropolis from brainiac's incursion. As it turns out, Metropolis was suddenly taken over years ago by Brainiac and put everyone in stasis tubes to use their life energy to power his machines. Now, alongside with a catsuit-wearing Lois Lane, Superman must make the stand for Zi--I mean, Metropolis in and outside THE BRAINIAC.

(Coming Next Summer)
 
Everyman said:
The costume doesn't prove anything. If they mess up all of the elements of the character minus his costume, this Doom is exactly Doom In Name Only. Or just a guy with a cool outfit.

I mean, what about movie Doom being a romantic rival of Richards? WHat about him being a tycoon? What about him having basically a bad skin condition (herr.,..I mean mutation)? This is really straying as far as the original character as Gary Oldman's Dracula...


Read the latest issue of Starlog magazine. This film is gonna give Doom his Latverian roots, his Gypsy connections and they are intent on not adopting the UFF for Victor. There will be flashbacks and the college rivalry between him and Reed will be intact along with much, much more. And these are quotes from Tim Story himself.

But the bottom line is: This is an ORIGIN film. Doom could sustain a franchise by himself. But when you have 4 other main characters to flesh out you can't possibly get to every detail about Doom. That's what sequels are for.
 
Orange9mm said:
I knew you'd see the light eventually.





Anyway, anyone like yourself who likes UFF is in for a real treat. They've done a good job of assimilating Ultimate Doom into this movie; and I'm truly happy for you from the bottom of my heart.

Ditto for you. Read the latest interview with Tim Story. He addresses his take on UFF and Doctor Doom.

'Nuff said. ;)
 
RabbitSamurai said:
And then Superman has to save Metropolis from brainiac's incursion. As it turns out, Metropolis was suddenly taken over years ago by Brainiac and put everyone in stasis tubes to use their life energy to power his machines. Now, alongside with a catsuit-wearing Lois Lane, Superman must make the stand for Zi--I mean, Metropolis in and outside THE BRAINIAC.

(Coming Next Summer)

Stop it... stop it!

You think they won't do it, but they will!! :(

:wolverine
 
LightninStrikez said:
Read the latest issue of Starlog magazine. This film is gonna give Doom his Latverian roots, his Gypsy connections and they are intent on not adopting the UFF for Victor. There will be flashbacks and the college rivalry between him and Reed will be intact along with much, much more. And these are quotes from Tim Story himself.

But the bottom line is: This is an ORIGIN film. Doom could sustain a franchise by himself. But when you have 4 other main characters to flesh out you can't possibly get to every detail about Doom. That's what sequels are for.

I can't believe you take one look at that article and just believe they're going to do this thing right. Read more carefully.

Story said they were going to "explain" the accent, right? I'm betting they'll explain why he isn't using the accent.

Story said they were going to use "an incarnation of 'It's Clobberin' Time!'" and use it in a funny way. If they weren't the savvy cowards that they are, they wouldn't try to change it to fit their "modern" script and then give us a carefully worded sentence to hide that fact from people who don't pay close attention and don't understand how these people operate.

Story mentioned how Doom had to look "real." More cowardice and presumption on their part. Again, I'd bet two whole dollars that we're going to end up with the watered-down, genericized, focus group-safe Doom in name only that we've been expecting all along. If I'm wrong, then I'd have paid 10 dollars in total for a movie that has a decent Doom, and that will be worth it. But I know I'm not wrong, and even though you absolutely will claim otherwise after you see the movie and make excuses as if you were an employee of Marvel Films, those of us that aren't dedicated to empty optimism will know it.

:wolverine
 
Herr Logan said:
Stop it... stop it!

You think they won't do it, but they will!! :(

:wolverine

In that case, we need someone to stand up for the right to leave comic books as is! THe right to show that change is a bad thing! And who better than...

 
LightninStrikez said:
Ditto for you. Read the latest interview with Tim Story. He addresses his take on UFF and Doctor Doom.

'Nuff said. ;)

Here's another dollar I'm betting: Orange will see almost exactly what I saw when I read it. He'll see a couple of things he's looking forward to seeing (the Thing doing some impressive physical feats and flicking someone with his finger) and he'll appreciate that they're keeping them in the blue suits throughout the movie, but he'll read between the lines when they talk about Doom. :wolverine
 
Milkman95 said:
I'm not clicking anything. I've read the script, and have been up-to-date with all the possible changes. Sorry we don't share the same opinion, and because of that, I can see the future? What a joke.
Well if you couldn't be bothered reading a quick post, then how can I take you seriously? My link basically says 'don't judge the movie until you've seen the final product' when you've seen the final product, seen how McMahon acts as Doom and seen how is character is portrayed in the FINAL product, then certainly, judge away.
 
Herr Logan said:
I can't believe you take one look at that article and just believe they're going to do this thing right. Read more carefully.

....But I know I'm not wrong, and even though you absolutely will claim otherwise after you see the movie and make excuses as if you were an employee of Marvel Films, those of us that aren't dedicated to empty optimism will know it.

:wolverine

Well Herr, I have to give it to you: Who needs God when we have a poster as all-knowing as yourself? I officially dub you "uncanny", for unbeknownst to the rest of us, you have been gifted with powers to decipher the hearts and intentions of professional directors, studios and actors whom you've never met--and can even--get this--foretell what my personal reaction will be to the film after I see it! Simply Wow. Teh INCREDIBLE!

And yet, you have the audacity to refer to others as "presumptuous"?

But you do earn one brownie: It's true--I didn't scan that article with a fine-tooth comb looking for faults, loopholes and deception from Tim Story. I read it at face value because I don't go through life looking for the bad in everything...it makes me age prematurely. Besides, unlike you, I've not seen the final product, and therefore cannot fairly offer judgement...yet. But trust me: if it sucks, I'll raise the same kind of hell here that I brought back last summer when certain casting decisions were made. Why? Because I'm an FF fan first and then a moviegoer. But you should know that too, right? :rolleyes;

Now, you mention "empty optimism." But here's my question: Wouldn't pessimism based loosely on sketchy details in a yet-to-be finished film (based on a script that has gone through numerous revisions) be equally as empty? I mean, unless you're on location with Tim & Co., or have personal access to him, what do you know that the rest of us don't? :cool:
 
The_Iceman2288 said:
Well if you couldn't be bothered reading a quick post, then how can I take you seriously? My link basically says 'don't judge the movie until you've seen the final product' when you've seen the final product, seen how McMahon acts as Doom and seen how is character is portrayed in the FINAL product, then certainly, judge away.

Ice - most of that post was sarcasm, and just giving you and the other's a hard time trying to defend Doom. You're right, I won't be able to make a fair judgement until after I see the final product. My speculation is they could drop the ball on Doom, but we'll have to wait and see of course.......
 
Herr Logan said:
Here's another dollar I'm betting: Orange will see almost exactly what I saw when I read it. He'll see a couple of things he's looking forward to seeing (the Thing doing some impressive physical feats and flicking someone with his finger) and he'll appreciate that they're keeping them in the blue suits throughout the movie, but he'll read between the lines when they talk about Doom. :wolverine

He will??

Dayummm!! Once again your All-Knowing Awesomeness is omnipresent, and even fills other posts with all of its presumptous Glory! Now, O9 doesn't even have to think or lift a finger in response--you can answer for him. Gotta give it to ya again--you're on a roll today Herr. Got all of us mere peons figured out don't ya?

:( Hmmm...and here I thought that O9 was going to reply to me directly!! I mean, I know some misunderstand O9 but for some reason I always seem to know where he's coming from...I guess I wasn't expecting a pre-translation from his "publicist." :cool:

Tell you what: Why don't we let him come to his own conclusions okay? He's got grown pockets. Cool? Great. Thanks. :up:
 
Herr Logan said:
Here's another dollar I'm betting: Orange will see almost exactly what I saw when I read it. He'll see a couple of things he's looking forward to seeing (the Thing doing some impressive physical feats and flicking someone with his finger) and he'll appreciate that they're keeping them in the blue suits throughout the movie, but he'll read between the lines when they talk about Doom. :wolverine


Would you two just **** and get it over with?


:thing: :doom: :thing:
 
Sardaukar said:
Yeah...but it's possible that Marvel wanted Ultimate Doom to be that way.
Just like it's possible that some unknown writer submitted the whole idea to Marvel without any way of copyrighting the story in the first place, being that all submitted work becomes Marvel property; same with DC. By Marvel, I mean the one giving the green light on the project at the time. It could've been the prez / editor, whatever, and to try to pinpoint who the real culprit is, is probably impossible. Since it could've well been some unknown who came up with the idea, the one in charge telling the writers what to do, or even the writers themselves convincing Marvel to run with the story, there's only the names on the credits that we can go by. Since there are so many fans out there who love UFF and give Ellis and Bendis credit for their masterpiece, then these two guys can fairly take the blame from all of us who hate UFF. F*** 'em.
No one pointed a gun to their head to write this stuff.............
.........but I agree with you that no one pointed a gun to Marvel entertainment to distribute the whole thing. Either way, I think we agree that it stinks.
 
LightninStrikez said:
Ditto for you. Read the latest interview with Tim Story. He addresses his take on UFF and Doctor Doom.

'Nuff said. ;)
"'Nuff said?" :confused:
I just read it. Listen, Enlightnin'er;) , you LIKE UFF, and like I said, you should be happy about this movie considering that 1) they seem to go all out as far as getting the essentials right with Reed, Sue, Thing, and Torch. And they've decided to go the Ultimate Doom route (which you like) except for him being Dracula's posterity and not being named Van Damme. The organic armor is inexcusable regardless what Story says; as though he'd complain about his own yet to be released movie he's directing.....oh....brother. How 'bout him saying that Latveria is only "touched apon" as him being from there as a child of gypsies. Not one sign of him being of any royalty whatsoever, yet tons of evidence of him having no purpose in life as a leader of his home country but only as a "successfull business man" with all the same attributes of the ever so popular Donald Trump. Him saying he's not going the Ultimate Doom route is as me saying I'm not gonna take your comic book, and then draw faces on all the people in it and white out all the dialogue, replacing the dialogue with my own, and then give it back to you with a smile on my face saying nothing changed. If I sold it back to you for $9.00, what would you say?
Look, I have no complaints about Julian, Alba, or really any of the acting forces here. I have enough clues that they'll straighten out Thing's rubbery problems to not complain about Thing. .... Umm.......Doom's flaws here are enough to put me into a fight or flight here and I'm not happy about it. This is tragic. You don't have to see it the way I do, I personally think you'll be happy with this film, especially if you like Ultimate Doom.
 
Franklin Richards said:
Would you two just **** and get it over with?


:thing: :doom: :thing:
Question: Why is that the first place your mind goes? If you're trying to identify all the gay guys so you'll know who to hit on, then go look somewhere else...... Capish?
 
Herr Logan said:
Here's another dollar I'm betting: Orange will see almost exactly what I saw when I read it. He'll see a couple of things he's looking forward to seeing (the Thing doing some impressive physical feats and flicking someone with his finger) and he'll appreciate that they're keeping them in the blue suits throughout the movie, but he'll read between the lines when they talk about Doom. :wolverine
Because we think alot alike ....:cool:
 
Orange9mm said:
Question: Why is that the first place your mind goes? If you're trying to identify all the gay guys so you'll know who to hit on, then go look somewhere else...... Capish?


I'm just tired of you two sucking each others *****.


...and it's kapish. As for sexuality, you can think whatever you want. This was about you, but if you want to turn it around and focus on me... please do. I am a self proclaimed attention ****e. Please...


tell me more about myself...


:thing: :doom: :thing:
 

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