I Am Doom....discuss me [merged-2]

[Kmack]

Well...his mask looks bad-ass....

I agree Hopefully Doom turns out to be as great a character as he is in the comics.....

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Damn! And to think I was about to invite all the AICN people over here to talk some sense into you all..........

Actually, it's the vast majority of the AICN folk that don't have any sense themselves. They couldn't keep up with the fans in this forum. We come here to talk about REAL and DEEP issues regarding the FF and Doom...not to impress others with our snobby "critic's tongue". Many of those cats don't know a damn thing about the FF, but they like to perp and hear themselves "talk" as if they do.

 

[Herr Logan]

Herr, come on....I was just messin with ya....I meant absolutely nothing by my comment....I apologize if you took it the wrong way....nothing was meant by it AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.....it went right along with my comment to Boom....thats all.....

Humor.... I see. A means to a comical end. Most impressive.



If I'm extra-testy today, it's probably because I'm sick with a throat that feels like Dr. Doom's face after he put his iron mask on prematurely. I can't eat anything besides cough drops, and even if I don't eat, I still have to swallow, or I'll drown.

 

[Saph]

That isn't a drawing that is a work of Art!

Question why does the Movies version of Doom, make him look like he has green armor?

What do you mean?

 

[Kmack]

Now this, is Doom

 

[Saph]

Now this, is Doom:cool::up:[/QUOTE]

Yup. Just like the mask in the movie. :)

 

[Endeavor]

I've been reading some of the recent posts/arguments and have a couple of questions (I've been away from the boards and the rumor mill for a long time):
I know about some of the changes that they have done to Doom: he is a businessman in the movie, fine, but is he still a scientific genius? Will he be a match for Reed when it comes to intellect? Has there been any information leaks that would give us an insight into this or are we still in the dark about those specifics?

 

[Kelly]

Humor.... I see. A means to a comical end. Most impressive.



If I'm extra-testy today, it's probably because I'm sick with a throat that feels like Dr. Doom's face after he put his iron mask on prematurely. I can't eat anything besides cough drops, and even if I don't eat, I still have to swallow, or I'll drown.

Awwww I'm sorry Herr....but really I didn't mean anything by it at all.....I promise.....

 

[Killgore]

He's no longer ruler, he dosent really seem like much of a genius, and he fires electricity instead of using magic.

I dunno...it seems like in this flick he's taking stuff from silver age lex luthor.

From where are you getting your vast supply of information? In the scrips I've read he's a bonified genius. And in the latest draft, his Latverian roots are included. As for being a dictator, we'll have to wait until July 8th to see, but I am confident that if he isn't in this movie he will be by the next. The only thing to go is the magic, which has little to do with his "bad assedness".

 

[Herr Logan]

Awwww I'm sorry Herr....but really I didn't mean anything by it at all.....I promise.....

That doesn't make my throat stop burning, does it?.

It's all good.

 

[JulianM.Fan]

This is going to be like Xmen and Spiderman they can't include everything about Doom in the length of two hours or whatever. I am sure that it will be included in the sequel. Doom may be a huge part of FF but he is not one of the main four thus he'll get less screen time and less revealing things about him because they'll be focusing more on the main four. The origins, the feelings, the adjustment and then finally the action. Give the movie a chance and stop opening a new thread each week about how Doom is not standing up to your measures *rolls eyes*

 

[Head>On<Collider]

This is going to be like Xmen and Spiderman they can't include everything about Doom in the length of two hours or whatever. I am sure that it will be included in the sequel. Doom may be a huge part of FF but he is not one of the main four thus he'll get less screen time and less revealing things about him because they'll be focusing more on the main four. The origins, the feelings, the adjustment and then finally the action. Give the movie a chance and stop opening a new thread each week about how Doom is not standing up to your measures *rolls eyes*

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[wobbly]

I've been reading some of the recent posts/arguments and have a couple of questions (I've been away from the boards and the rumor mill for a long time):
I know about some of the changes that they have done to Doom: he is a businessman in the movie, fine, but is he still a scientific genius? Will he be a match for Reed when it comes to intellect? Has there been any information leaks that would give us an insight into this or are we still in the dark about those specifics?

Well...in the film he apparently

Spoiler

does build a transformation chamber that cures Ben

, so he can't be that much of a slouch in the smarts department. A match for Reed though, as he should be?...Can't say for sure, but the spoiler does suggest he oughta be close.

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

From where are you getting your vast supply of information? In the scrips I've read he's a bonified genius. And in the latest draft, his Latverian roots are included. As for being a dictator, we'll have to wait until July 8th to see, but I am confident that if he isn't in this movie he will be by the next. The only thing to go is the magic, which has little to do with his "bad assedness".

Aren't you forgetting a tiny little thing, which is the armor ? (You know, one of the BIGGEST attribute of the character since the very first comic he was introduced in ?).

 

[homestarrunner]

well in the new issue of wizard with all the movie stuff the costume designer says that fox thought the look of doom was too " archaic" and needed to be updated.. im not sure i fi agree wit hthem or not .i tihnk they could have gotten away with the way he was then again this 2005. .

 

[homestarrunner]

on an also side note, doom doesn't look meanacing enough with out his huge armor.. i still hope he comes off on screen and a real threat

 

[Herr Logan]

well in the new issue of wizard with all the movie stuff the costume designer says that fox thought the look of doom was too " archaic" and needed to be updated.. im not sure i fi agree wit hthem or not .i tihnk they could have gotten away with the way he was then again this 2005. .

Archaic? Yeah, that's the point.

The statement that it "needed to be updated" will never be valid, especially if the justification is that Doom's look is "too archaic."

 

[Will]

Archaic? Yeah, that's the point.

The statement that it "needed to be updated" will never be valid, especially if the justification is that Doom's look is "too archaic."

Yeah the movie version of Doom actually looks more archaic and all over the place than the comic one.

I actually have a design solution to the lower half of Dr. Doom with the movie top half design but I doubt anyone would want to see it.

 

[Killgore]

Yeah the movie version of Doom actually looks more archaic and all over the place than the comic one.

I actually have a design solution to the lower half of Dr. Doom with the movie top half design but I doubt anyone would want to see it.

Post it.

 

[GoblinScrier]

With Doom's tacky lower half of his body sticking out like a sore thumb, didn't Julian McMahon say recently that he gets "tank like" armor by the end so wouldn't that mean that he will get rid of these tacky pants and his shoes and trade in for some cool armor that will look like Dr. Doom ! Besides, hasn't it been confirmed we haven't see the final "version" of Doom anyway ? I am going to remain optimistic, something that has been lost around here but hopefully will be found by the majority of us soon enough !

Long live and may he return to glory soon !

 

[wetgorilla]

From the photographs I have seen of the movie Doom, Most of the physical intimidation has been lost. He looks thin and in retreat. What I mean, the movie Doom looks as though his intent is to hide beneath his cloak. Something the real Doom would never have done. Or worse, conceal himself like the Elephant Man.

This is just one fundamental flaw in how the movie Doom has been written. Doom is being dismembered by the individuals who have been commissioned to bring him to life. This approach to character development (especially after reading the comment given by the costume director) displays a lack of research and creative wrecklessness.

Wetgorilla

 

[Iron Maiden]

Funny how these Doom threads keep popping up like dandelions on a springtime lawn.

Going by the cast listing, Julian McMahon is the fifth billed. Using the past history of supervillains translated to the screen, his screen time will most likely be less than the rest of the cast. Yet more than a few fans cite this as their biggest concern.

I am starting to wonder about the nebulous "creative differences" explanation given for Peyton Reed's departure as director. If memory serves, Peyton Reed wanted to place the film in the same time period as when the comics first came out - the 1960's. In this context, I think movie Doom would have ended up being been very close to the comics version. The highly eccentric view of Tim Burton's Gotham City comes to mind - - there is just no city like this in the real world. It seems to exist in a constant state of twilight and I can't recall very many scenes done in dazzzling daylight. It gave Batman a sort of self-contained universe where it didn't seem so strange to have the Joker and other assorted weirdos on the loose.

If the FF movie was done in this manner, I think the credibility factor for "old school" Doom would have been a slam dunk. Instead of trying to comtemporize Doom you would create the environment in which he exists - a fantasy version of our Earth known as the Marvel Universe. In this universe, there is a forboding building known as the Latverian embassy in New York, Doctor Strange has a townhouse on Blecker Street in Greenwich village and a SHIELD helicarrier patrols the skies.

Instead, they chose to fit Doom into something closer to our reality. Absolute monarch translates into industrialist/billionaire and his medieval - themed armor looks like Calvin Klein or some other design house. I suppose we should consider ourselves lucky they didn't try to make Doom an allegory for someone like Osama Bin Laden. We also see Doom's transformation occur much later in life than in the comics. In the film, he has already gone through college with Reed and is an established business baron when they all get exposed to the cosmic radiation. Fox is rolling the dice on this in the hopes that there is enough of Doom from the comics to satisfy the fan base and seems to be making changes in the script to correct this according Simon Kinberg, the last screenwriter to work on the film. By July we will know if they have succeeded. I just wish someone at Fox had the cajones and creativity to make a movie in which a more faithful version of Doom could exist but it's gone too far for that now.

I hope they leave the fate of Doom at the end of the movie open-ended and he becomes a recurring character in the manner of Ian McKellan's Magneto. Let's just hope that we don't have to wait as long as the Supeman franchise has in eradicating Gene Hackman's buffoonish version of Lex Luthor.

 

[Endeavor]

Well...in the film he apparently

Spoiler

does build a transformation chamber that cures Ben

, so he can't be that much of a slouch in the smarts department. A match for Reed though, as he should be?...Can't say for sure, but the spoiler does suggest he oughta be close.

Thank you wobbly

 

[Herr Logan]

Funny how these Doom threads keep popping up like dandelions on a springtime lawn.

Going by the cast listing, Julian McMahon is the fifth billed. Using the past history of supervillains translated to the screen, his screen time will most likely be less than the rest of the cast. Yet more than a few fans cite this as their biggest concern.

I am starting to wonder about the nebulous "creative differences" explanation given for Peyton Reed's departure as director. If memory serves, Peyton Reed wanted to place the film in the same time period as when the comics first came out - the 1960's. In this context, I think movie Doom would have ended up being been very close to the comics version. The highly eccentric view of Tim Burton's Gotham City comes to mind - - there is just no city like this in the real world. It seems to exist in a constant state of twilight and I can't recall very many scenes done in dazzzling daylight. It gave Batman a sort of self-contained universe where it didn't seem so strange to have the Joker and other assorted weirdos on the loose.

If the FF movie was done in this manner, I think the credibility factor for "old school" Doom would have been a slam dunk. Instead of trying to comtemporize Doom you would create the environment in which he exists - a fantasy version of our Earth known as the Marvel Universe. In this universe, there is a forboding building known as the Latverian embassy in New York, Doctor Strange has a townhouse on Blecker Street in Greenwich village and a SHIELD helicarrier patrols the skies.

Instead, they chose to fit Doom into something closer to our reality. Absolute monarch translates into industrialist/billionaire and his medieval - themed armor looks like Calvin Klein or some other design house. I suppose we should consider ourselves lucky they didn't try to make Doom an allegory for someone like Osama Bin Laden. We also see Doom's transformation occur much later in life than in the comics. In the film, he has already gone through college with Reed and is an established business baron when they all get exposed to the cosmic radiation. Fox is rolling the dice on this in the hopes that there is enough of Doom from the comics to satisfy the fan base and seems to be making changes in the script to correct this according Simon Kinberg, the last screenwriter to work on the film. By July we will know if they have succeeded. I just wish someone at Fox had the cajones and creativity to make a movie in which a more faithful version of Doom could exist but it's gone too far for that now.

I hope they leave the fate of Doom at the end of the movie open-ended and he becomes a recurring character in the manner of Ian McKellan's Magneto. Let's just hope that we don't have to wait as long as the Supeman franchise has in eradicating Gene Hackman's buffoonish version of Lex Luthor.

*applauds*

 

[Kelly]

How's your throat HL?????