I Am Doom....discuss me [merged-2]

[Muze]

Because I respect an enemy who gives himself powers more than one who gets them by accident.

Doom[imitation]: "this was no accident. power is my birthright."

honestly, did you guys expect them to faithfully retell Doom's quest to free his accused witch mother's soul from a nether-dimension, his trip to ESU, and his journey into the mountains where he met some crazy cult and became Doom? that would have taken up just as much, if not more, time than Bruce Wayne's shortened origin in Batman Begins. and for what? he's just the bad guy. you still have to introduce and make people love the Fantastic Four. remember them? maybe Fantastic Four was just the wrong movie to bring to the big screen. perhaps they should have gone with the Submariner. guh.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Burned scars cannot be healed? PUH-LEASE! Scars can be healed, people just have to have money to afford these medications to get them healed. Does every single human being have enough money? NO! I cant build armor? Neither can you. Thats the pot calling the kettle black. You tell me to shut up? How classy. You obviously know you cannot be proved right so you just tell me to shut up to draw the argument into a stalemate huh? YOU get your facts straight you little BOY!

You proved my point. It takes a person with a certain level of intellect to make an armor like that. Before you make a point, think it out. You just admitted you were wrong.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

You proved my point. It takes a person with a certain level of intellect to make an armor like that. Before you make a point, think it out. You just admitted you were wrong.

You are the one who is wrong. You want to act all smart, go to school and then maybe we can talk but as of right now, I am the victor of this argument so just leave me alone and let me be you insolent person.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Dr. Doom.

Victor Von Doom was born under two gypsies (who are still very much persecuted today). His mother was slain when he was but an infant. His Father, Werner Von Doom, a gyspie know for healing, was commishioned to save Latverian Baroness. He failed to save her since her disease was beyond the treatment of gypsy remedies. The Baron was incredibly distraut and put a price on Werner's head. Werner fled into the harsh terrain of a cold eastern europe. With the horse now dead Werner on foot managed to carry the infirm young Doom back to their tribe. The trek cost Werner his life. With his dying words he made Doom swear he would become strong and powerful enough to avenge the deaths of himself and Doom's mother. Over the next years Doom obsessed himself with studying math, science, history especially of the black arts (which he discovered his mother also possessed). Doom headed towards the states and entered empire state university in their science program. Reed Richards roomed next store to Doom, falsely assuming a kindred spirit with him. Reed offered to help Doom with one of his experiments, however when he questioned Doom's formulas. Doom became infruiated and did not request Reed assitance again until he was ready to test it. Reed flipped the switch to the machine, and Doom was scarred by the explosion of the head piece. Doom was expelled, and blamed Richards for sabotage. Doom nowed minorly scarred believed his perfection had been tarished forever. He sought a remedy for this amongst an order of monks in Tibet. He learned from them the black magic once possessed by his mother. With the secrets now within him he decided to create a suit of armor, a new perfect body to replace the one which had been tarished forever. The armor combined the black magics of the Tibetian monks and the sciences of american technology. In his blind ambition and arogance made him feel as though he was immune to pain, therefore he put on his mask (the final piece of his new body) while it was still red hot burning and scarring his face far worse than the explosion ever would. In agony he fled outside the cavern and into a snow blank outside. Now Doom's face was truly the horror he thought it had originally become. He renamed himself Doctor Doom, a man he felt who was above weakness. With his new suit and black magic Doom returned to Latveria and reclaimed the throne for himself by shear force. Dr. Doom however was not satisfied and turned his sights towards world domination. Doom sought to use Reed Richards, who had recently acquired fame as Mr. Fantastic, as a pawn in this scheme. Thus bringing him in contact with his sworn enemies from hence forth, the Fantastic Four

 

[ShadowBoxing]

thats sounds like a cool origin to me

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Burned scars cannot be healed? PUH-LEASE! Scars can be healed, people just have to have money to afford these medications to get them healed. Does every single human being have enough money? NO! I cant build armor? Neither can you. Thats the pot calling the kettle black. You tell me to shut up? How classy. You obviously know you cannot be proved right so you just tell me to shut up to draw the argument into a stalemate huh? YOU get your facts straight you little BOY!

The point of Doom's origin was not whether he could or could not fix a scar. Doom promised his dying father he would be without weakness, with fault. To him the scar represented a fault, a weakness. No amount of surgury could correct it, especially since surgury would prove he needed other people, again which would be a weakness (to him). That is why he made the suit of armor and destroyed his own face, because he wanted a new perfect body to replace the old one.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You are the one who is wrong. You want to act all smart, go to school and then maybe we can talk but as of right now, I am the victor of this argument so just leave me alone and let me be you insolent person.

What? You said anyone could build armor, and then you told me you couldn't. This shows that you were wrong, oh and on a medical website they clearly state that scars cannt be completely removed, just minimized or greatly improved. On a MEDICAL website. So, you are wrong again, as usual.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

What? You said anyone could build armor, and then you told me you couldn't. This shows that you were wrong, oh and on a medical website they clearly state that scars cannt be completely removed, just minimized or greatly improved. On a MEDICAL website. So, you are wrong again, as usual.

Furthermore he didn't really have to pay for the armor since he designed and the tibetian monks who taught his mother black magic built it (old school armor building style)

 

[Caliber]

I have thought about this and I have come to this conclusion. Doom's movie origin is 10 times better than his comic book origin. I hear some crying and complaining that it isn't faithful but faithful does not always great. His comic book origin is not believable, ridiculous, and unrealistic. His movie origin is believable and much better in the sense that he has a closer connection to the Fantasatic Four and a BETTER reason for being Doctor Doom. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

I disargee but understand your point. Doom comic origin is much better though. He went through a process that prepared for his choices and fights later. You see his character become Doom.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The point of Doom's origin was not whether he could or could not fix a scar. Doom promised his dying father he would be without weakness, with fault. To him the scar represented a fault, a weakness. No amount of surgury could correct it, especially since surgury would prove he needed other people, again which would be a weakness (to him). That is why he made the suit of armor and destroyed his own face, because he wanted a new perfect body to replace the old one.

Bravo. You hit the nail on the head.

I will say that I understand the changes to Doom, but I still feel his comic book origin is better. I am just hoping he has enough of his comic personality at this point.

 

[Caliber]

Bravo. You hit the nail on the head.

I will say that I understand the changes to Doom, but I still feel his comic book origin is better. I am just hoping he has enough of his comic personality at this point.

It looks like he has his personality from what has been shown.

 

[Spider-Fan]

He does. Based on the trailers, I like his personality. He has a menacing look before the accident. That is why I see promise in Doom.

 

[Raiden]

I think that, if they wanted to fully realize Dr. Doom's comic origin, it'd be impossible to do it in a Fantastic Four movie. You have 4 main heroes, who all have their own little story on how to deal with the aftermath of the incident. Then you have to pause the movie to show the journey that made Dr. Doom who he is. In this movie, Dr. Doom is merely one of the emsemble cast, so it is more convenient to have his origin criss-cross with F4, and still have room for character development and exciting climax. Imagine if they try to show how Joker became Joker in the Batman sequel; that'd take quite awhile and Batman would be left out in the meantime.

Dr. Doom perhaps could get his own spin-off movie, like Magnetic and Wolverine will do. I think his popularity will get enough fans to make it into a box office hit.

 

[Caliber]

I think that, if they wanted to fully realize Dr. Doom's comic origin, it'd be impossible to do it in a Fantastic Four movie. You have 4 main heroes, who all have their own little story on how to deal with the aftermath of the incident. Then you have to pause the movie to show the journey that made Dr. Doom who he is. In this movie, Dr. Doom is mere one of the emsemble, so it is more convenient to have his origin criss-cross with F4, and still have room for character development and exciting climax. Imagine if they try to show how Joker became Joker in the Batman sequel; that'd take quite awhile and Batman would be left out in the meantime.

Dr. Doom perhaps could get his own spin-off movie, like Magnetic and Wolverine will do. I think his popularity will get enough fans to make it into a box office hit.

I hope they do show more in a sequal because its complicated to explain his origin in full detail. If it was a three hour movie maybe but not a two hour.

 

[GoblinScrier]

I am confident that not only we will get a sequel but in the sequel, we will establish Doom as monarch of Latveria, he will have his people build armies of robots, etc. With a little luck, he will have his faithful retainer Boris at his side.

We will get more comic Doom elements in F4:2 and then with a little luck, we will get a Dr. Doom solo film. What a great way to show the history of the man, the gypsies, a plan against the F4, a typical day in Latveria. All kinds of good stuff.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

What? You said anyone could build armor, and then you told me you couldn't. This shows that you were wrong, oh and on a medical website they clearly state that scars cannt be completely removed, just minimized or greatly improved. On a MEDICAL website. So, you are wrong again, as usual.

Wow, you think your all big great and that. Well you are wrong and I am right, just face it. Im getting sick of you and your pathetic games. I am the victor and you are the loser. Unlike you, my time isn't worth being wasted by a pitiful argumentative person like you.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Ah, another person who doesn't like to lose. Well, I have PROVED you wrong, and yet you haven't even tried to defend yourself. You hide under the "I win you lose" excuse which is cowardly and weak (not to mention wrong).

 

[Dr.Crazy]

Ah, another person who doesn't like to lose. Well, I have PROVED you wrong, and yet you haven't even tried to defend yourself. You hide under the "I win you lose" excuse which is cowardly and weak (not to mention wrong). Doom would be disappointed.

I think you are a real jerk you know that. You know I won yet you just be like a four year old and complain. DO YOU WANT SOME CHEESE WITH THAT WHINE?!

 

[Spider-Fan]

What? I see why you call yourself Dr.Crazy. You are whining. Not me.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

What? I see why you call yourself Dr.Crazy. You are whining. Not me.

Ah, making fun of my name. What a classact. I'm not going to pull your classless acts and make fun of your name but you know what, your pitiful insults show what kind of a person you are. Weak.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think you are a real jerk you know that. You know I won yet you just be like a four year old and complain. DO YOU WANT SOME CHEESE WITH THAT WHINE?!

And I am the immature one?

 

[Dr.Crazy]

And I am the immature one?

Of course you are. You have no respect for people above you.

 

[Kelly]

ok...guys cut it out......stop w/ the name-calling and call a truce...





ok....back to doom....

 

[Dr.Crazy]

ok...guys cut it out......stop w/ the name-calling and call a truce...





ok....back to doom....

I stopped it a while ago but the jerk won't quit.

 

[Kelly]

I stopped it a while ago but the jerk won't quit.

See there ya go again.....come on guys......just call it a late night misunderstanding and move on....