Fant4stic "I am DOOM! What MODS Dare Stand Against Me!

[Astro13Zombie]

I thought Chronicle was a fun watch..
That said, I've seen it twice and that'll probably be enough.heh

 

[Paradox1]

@paradox and comicbookkid

Your tireless defense of this film is admirable. It truly is. You must really like Chronicle.

Defense of the film makes it sound like I've made up my mind about it. Which I haven't I just don't hear tidbits of info and assume the worst or the best. After I see some footage and get a real grasp about what it will be then I'll make up my mind.

 

[ThePhantasm]

If I see some footage

Corrected.

 

[Dark Raven]

@paradox and comicbookkid

Your tireless defense of this film is admirable. It truly is. You must really like Chronicle.

Yep. It's time for another

 

[Whiskey Tango]

This is why fanboys shouldn't be allowed to write.

That is the worse kind of hyperbole and it's click bait for people against the film. It's like an article from a Star Wars prequel hater and saying it wouldn't ruined my childhood.

lmao

 

[Dark Raven]

Maybe the final battle with be Reed and "doom" in a hacking battle against each other

They might fight each other in an online game in virtual Latveria. That might be the only time we see "Doom" in anything looking like his comic costume, and it will be all computer animated.

 

[Orba]

Please do some research. Go and read the BATMAN comics of the 50's and 60's. Batman and Robin in the comics at that time was a comedy team. It was not serious in the least. The Adam West TV show was a accurate representation of the comic book character at the time.

In contrast....no where at all in the 50+ years that DOCTOR DOOM has been published in the comics has he been named DOMASHEV and no where in that 50+ years has he been an "anti social programmer writing a blog".

Hehe the preorder DLC I got for the new Lego Batman 3 game gave me the Rainbow Batman costume, a costume from a story which is a classic example of how strangely bizarre the comic could be in those days.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

This is why fanboys shouldn't be allowed to write.
If Batman can survive from Adam West to Burton then the FF can survive two bad interpretations.

 

[Dark Raven]

So if Doom is a blogger but also a super villain, does that mean that other bloggers on the internet might also be super villains as well?

To think we could already be reading the ravings of a maniacal dictator.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I shouldn't have to defend the Batman TV show, but here goes...

Adam West's interpretation was a pitch-perfect portrayal of the silly way Batman was depicted in the comics at that time. The costumes and sets were gorgeous and the acting by West, Newmar, Meredith, Romero and especially Gorshin was fantastic. The TV show got a generation of young viewers into reading comic books - myself included.

Burton's take on the Darknight Detective was very different, but once again consistent with his portrayal in the comics during the 1980s. Keaton's depiction was more brooding than corny, but Batman 89 had a lot in common with its TV precursor - beautiful sets and costumes along with terrific acting. I managed a movie theater when it was released, and let me tell you - the film was a cultural phenomenon.

To compare the horrible Story films, or even worse, Trank's FFINO to Batman's 60s TV show and his late 80's film appearance shows an utter ignorance to both the quality and the cultural impact they had. Fanboys shouldn't be allowed to write if they have absolutely no understanding regarding what they're commenting.

Please do some research. Go and read the BATMAN comics of the 50's and 60's. Batman and Robin in the comics at that time was a comedy team. It was not serious in the least. The Adam West TV show was a accurate representation of the comic book character at the time.

In contrast....no where at all in the 50+ years that DOCTOR DOOM has been published in the comics has he been named DOMASHEV and no where in that 50+ years has he been an "anti social programmer writing a blog".

Please don't speak for me. I love the Adam West Batman and the Burton Batman(more than Nolan).

The point is that many people here act like Nolan put the best interpretation of the character on screen since is was "the serious" version.

Batman can go from goofy Adam West to Penguin missiles and still be iconic. Two wildly different interpretation.

So can the FF. They aren't some fragile property like that is ruined like the article suggest.

Stop responding to something without reading the article. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

 

[Eddie]

So if Doom is a blogger but also a super villain, does that mean that other bloggers on the internet might also be super villains as well?

To think we could already be reading the ravings of a maniacal dictator.

WIZ: Ah snap yall Doom got pwned!!

PastePot: thats cra-z! Doom wuz da sure thing?!

WIZ: Gueess he sux lol

HairGirl: ROFLMAO Doom thought he wuz 1337

Pastepot: Yea, but nao wut? We should totes take his place!

EnterSandman: Guyz Guyz! We shud teem up!

WIZ: We half 2! This is about ethics in superpowers! #Supergate

 

[Dark Raven]

Please don't speak for me. I love the Adam West Batman and the Burton Batman(more than Nolan).

The point is that many people here act like Nolan put the best interpretation of the character on screen since is was "the serious" version.

Batman can go from goofy Adam West to Penguin missiles and still be iconic. Two wildly different interpretation.

So can the FF. They aren't some fragile property like that is ruined like the article suggest.

Stop responding to something without reading the article. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

Each of these various iterations of Batman, with the exception of Batman and Robin, have been generally well received and are even beloved by fans. Many liked the Adam West version, or the Tim Burton version, or even some liked Batman Forever, and many liked the Nolan versions.

With the FF, there hasn't been an iteration of the property that has been universally loved by the public or fans. There has been one low budget version that wasn't even seen widely, one version that has been critically panned, and a new version that is almost universally hated, except for by a few people like you.

FF can't survive like Batman, because it hasn't gained that goodwill as far as the general audience are concerned. They are definitely a much more fragile property than Batman is at the moment.

Stop spinning everything and coming up with excuses in trying to defend this property. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

FF can't survive like Batman, because it hasn't gained that goodwill as far as the general audience are concerned. They are definitely a much more fragile property than Batman is at the moment.

Stop spinning everything and coming up with excuses in trying to defend this property. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

So, me thinking the FF is still a strong property vs. you who thinks it's some fragile egg that must be protected from the big bad Fox, and I'm the one being ridiculous?

No one has seen the Corman version aside from nerds and the Story FF are a blip on the radar. This version doesn't need to the greatest thing ever to not damage the FF.

It's not like Affleck's DD is being used to say no one cares about the Netflix version or that the HULK is a dead property cause of the two bad movies.

 

[Eddie]

It may also be worth adding that, unlike Batman, the FF haven't really fared well on television. The animated adaptations include a version that couldn't even use the Human Torch and the infamous "Thing Ring Do Your Thing!" nonsense.

Come to think of it, the rumored synopsis says we're getting a scrawny Ben Grimm that can transform at will. Holy ****, they adapted Benjy Grimm to the big screen!

 

[Lilbaz]

So, me thinking the FF is still a strong property vs. you who thinks it's some fragile egg that must be protected from the big bad Fox, and I'm the one being ridiculous?

No one has seen the Corman version aside from nerds and the Story FF are a blip on the radar. This version doesn't need to the greatest thing ever to not damage the FF.

It's not like Affleck's DD is being used to say no one cares about the Netflix version or that the HULK is a dead property cause of the two bad movies.

If FF was a strong property, they would still be making comics. For the general audience they only have 2 films to mark FF on. These haven't been great.

This might well be a great film though who knows? But fans do have the right to be pissed when they make significant changes to core characters.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

If FF was a strong property, they would still be making comics. For the general audience they only have 2 films to mark FF on. These haven't been great.

This might well be a great film though who knows? But fans do have the right to be pissed when they make significant changes to core characters.

Yeah, of course. I've never said otherwise

I've watched ever interpretation of Superman from the Kirk Alyn to Cavill and the cartoons.

I still haven't seen the live action version of Superman comics I read on screen. Reeve was the close but that version made up "jesus Christ angle".

That's what I don't personally get. Ever live action version does this stuff.

But I grade ever version based on their own merits. Smallville is as far from anything comic related and it started off good.

 

[Zarex]

So, me thinking the FF is still a strong property vs. you who thinks it's some fragile egg that must be protected from the big bad Fox, and I'm the one being ridiculous?

No one has seen the Corman version aside from nerds and the Story FF are a blip on the radar. This version doesn't need to the greatest thing ever to not damage the FF.

It's not like Affleck's DD is being used to say no one cares about the Netflix version or that the HULK is a dead property cause of the two bad movies.

The Batman TV show, The Burton films, the Nolan films and even the Schumacher films varied wildly in tone. But they were all clearly recognizable as Batman.

Trank's FFINO, which features three dudes born within a year of each other, including twenty something (grocery store clerk?) Reed, his wee chum Ben (who may have the Hulk-like ability to change into a monster) his African American (party boy?) pal Johnny, his white sister Sue and their arch-nemesis bloggin' Victor Domashev doesn't resemble the Fantastic Four in the slightest.

The FF isn't Batman, one of the most popular superheroes with decades of success on TV in film. If this thing fails, and all signs point to "yes", the FF could be done as a franchise. And for those of us who grew up loving Marvel's First Family, it's a damn shame.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

The Batman TV show, The Burton films, the Nolan films and even the Schumacher films varied wildly in tone. But they were all clearly recognizable as Batman.

Trank's FFINO, which features three dudes born within a year of each other, including twenty something (grocery store clerk?) Reed, his wee chum Ben (who may have the Hulk-like ability to change into a monster) his African American (party boy?) pal Johnny, his white sister Sue and their arch-nemesis bloggin' Victor Domashev doesn't resemble the Fantastic Four in the slightest.

And yet that didn't stop fans from saying that Nicholson's Joker wasn't the "real" Joker. Or Keaton was too short.

You can find wrong comic interpretations of all the characters in those movies. Was that supposed to be Bane in B&R?

Catwoman created by being thrown out a window and licked back to life?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

And yet that didn't stop fans from saying that Nicholson's Joker wasn't the "real" Joker. Or Keaton was too short.

You can find wrong comic interpretations of all the characters in those movies. Was that supposed to be Bane in B&R?

Catwoman created by being thrown out a window and licked back to life?

You can find people who don't like those movies as well. Do you constantly hound them about it like you are here?

You people need to face the fact that this production is widely disliked in the online community (and for good reason) and your chances of changing anyone's mind are slim.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

You can find people who don't like those movies as well. Do you constantly hound them about it like you are here?

You people need to face the fact that this production is widely disliked in the online community (and for good reason) and your chances of changing anyone's mind are slim.

Who did I hound?

I responded to an article from another site. You guys jumped on me for not clapping at him saying the FF are a weak myth.

I haven't been on this forum in almost a month.

 

[Zarex]

And yet that didn't stop fans from saying that Nicholson's Joker wasn't the "real" Joker. Or Keaton was too short.

You can find wrong comic interpretations of all the characters in those movies. Was that supposed to be Bane in B&R?

Catwoman created by being thrown out a window and licked back to life?

Every comicbook movie, even the all time greats, have a character interpretation (or two) that is off. FFINO sets a new low by apparently getting everything wrong.

So if a FF movie that doesn't remotely resemble Marvel's First Family is your cup of tea, enjoy! Most of us fans will be sitting this one out.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Every comicbook movie, even the all time greats, have a character interpretation (or two) that is off. FFINO sets a new low by apparently getting everything wrong.

So if a FF movie that doesn't remotely resemble Marvel's First Family is your cup of tea, enjoy! Most of us fans will be sitting this one out.

I've said some of this stuff was unnecessary changes.

After 15 plus years of modern comic movies age, I've learned that I personally don't know nothing. I've lived through Legder's "BROKEBACK JOKER" mocking and then 180 to praise.

I've seen a fan director like MSJ's DD make a bad movie.

And I've seen a series like Smallville make the best interpretation of Lex and Clark's dynamic by coming at it from a "no tights, no flight" left field interpretation instead of doing the 80s Superboy series idea again that had the comic interpretation adapted.

This may be terrible. I'm not ruling that out. I just have decided.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I haven't been on this forum in almost a month.

Not that it matters one whit but search shows you've been posting in this forum regularly since 11-10-14, or almost exactly one week.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Why do people keep drawing analogies between this film and any Batman movie past or present? None of the analogies hold any water whatsoever... totally different situations.

 

[C. Lee]

Please don't speak for me. I love the Adam West Batman and the Burton Batman(more than Nolan).

You completely missed my point (and by the way....I absolutely love the Adam West BATMAN show...I am the old guy here, I watched it first run in the 60's as I read the crazy comics it was based upon....it was my first live action comic book character to be seen)....my point was....West's BATMAN was based upon the actual comics at the time....what we have now heard about the new FF movie is that it is based upon things that never happened in the comic in 50+ years of it's being published.

The point is that many people here act like Nolan put the best interpretation of the character on screen since is was "the serious" version.

That's where I am different than the rest...Nolan made 3 BATMAN movies...1 great, 1 fine, 1 a total waste of time.

Batman can go from goofy Adam West to Penguin missiles and still be iconic. Two wildly different interpretation.

Two wildly different interpretation OF THE ACTUAL COMICS...something that the new FF seems to be missing.

So can the FF. They aren't some fragile property like that is ruined like the article suggest.

The bad critical and fan reaction to BATMAN AND ROBIN kept batman out of the theaters for 8 years. The bad critical and fan reaction to SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE kept Superman out of the theater for 19 years. Many on here who want to see a good interpretation of the FF fear that this movie will keep them from seeing a decent version for decades.

Stop responding to something without reading the article. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

I have read all articles posted in here (and probably a few not posted in here).