Fant4stic "I am DOOM! What MODS Dare Stand Against Me!

[Dark Raven]

Hypothetically, if the movie is "well-made" apart from the facepalm plot, the potential is there for them to make an interesting arc for Doom.

For instance:
- A series (3 or 4 or 5 films) where Doom is the only villain.
- film 1: begins slowly with "Doomashev" developing powers and rivalry with Reed. learning he's more than just a programmer/blogger/"hactivist" disfigures himself and dons mask.
- film 2: renounces everything about his previous character in favor of gathering more power. discovers his gypsy parentage and real name "Von Doom," begins delving into sorcery
- film 3: takes over Latveria and rules with an iron fist. Is finally Doctor Doom in all his glory.


doubtful.

Yeah. That's not going to happen. There's unlikely to be a sequel. And Doom going from anti-social programmer/ blogger to classic Doom? I don't think that was ever the point of Trank's reimagining. This will never be "Doom in all his glory" because they've started off on the wrong foot to begin with.

And there's no need to black it out since it's all speculation and not any plot spoilers, especially not your "films 2 & 3". And most people here don't care to be spoiled in this way anyway with regard to this movie because most people aren't going to see it.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Plot details have allegedly leaked. I'm proud of you guys for not overreacting. It was a tough read. Oh lawd.

Some spoilers!

[BLACKOUT]Reed is a genius convenience store clerk with Ben. Reed's parents don't care about him, and Ben's dad is abusive. They're good friends and have each other's backs. Reed writes a paper for community college on teleportation that attracts the attention of Dr. Franklin Storm, CEO of the Baxter Building research center.[/BLACKOUT]

Good ****ing lord

Thirty-seven!

Are you just seeing this now? We've all been angsting over it for days.

I'm just learning about most of this stuff too.
Not entirely sure why I started giving it any amount of attention,but I wish I could stop...

Train wreck and all that

 

[BatsDC]

I hope that someday, preferably soon, somebody does the Fantastic Four right. For the team that helped establish the Marvel Universe, they're being treated terribly.

 

[First Avenger]

If Marvel Studios don't get the rights that's not gonna happen.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

If Marvel Studios don't get the rights that's not gonna happen.

Bingo.

 

[Dark Raven]

Originally posted in the postive thread:

Rumored Plot

Spoiler

Reed is a genius convenience store clerk with Ben. Reed's parents don't care about him, and Ben's dad is abusive. They're good friends and have each other's backs. Reed writes a paper for community college on teleportation that attracts the attention of Dr. Franklin Storm, CEO of the Baxter Building research center.

Storm has a son, Johnny, and an adoptive daughter, Sue, whose father, Storm's old partner, died in an experiment gone wrong. Johnny and Sue are party kids, and Sue is particularly disdainful of science. Reed and Sue don't get along at first.
Victor Doomashev is a anti-social Eastern European computer programmer and hacktivist who calls himself "Doom". He hates the 1%, particularly Storm, whom he claims corrupts science for profit.


Storm uses Reed's paper to complete some equations on a machine to access another dimension, the N-Zone. Reed invites Ben to watch the machine being turned on. Sue and Johnny are also there. Doom manages to hack into the Baxter Building's servers and use a computer virus to damage the machine, which explodes. Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben are exposed to otherwordly energy and become mutants with powers that they can't control.

Storm takes them to the Baxter Building and creates containment suits for their powers. They begin to train. Reed and Storm also begin developing a way to revert the accident. Sue blames Reed for everything, but they eventually become friends and then a couple. Ben can switch off his powers when he's not in danger. Johnny changes colors based on heat intensity, and Sue has some borderline telekinetic thing. Reed is pretty much Reed.

Doom finds out that the four have acquired powers and becomes angry it's not him, so he comes up with a plan to break into the Baxter Building to access the N-Zone through the rebuild machine. As a distraction, he reprograms a bunch of stolen military drones, the "Doombots", to attack the building. The four come together as a team for the first time and save people.

Doom activates the machine and gets technopathy powers or something, basically energy blasts and making machines obey to him, and a fight ensues. The machine goes critical, and, in order to prevent it from exploding and destroying the city, the four push into it and Storm shuts it off.

There's a countdown before it reaches critical mass. Inside the N-Zone, the four battle Doom again, and manage to leave him trapped there after he disfigures himself soaking up too much power. The Four manage to escape, but Ben gets the blunt of it to protect Reed and can't switch back.

The machine is destroyed, Doom is gone, the four have learned to work as a team, and Reed vows to find a cure for Ben. And it ends there.

While it's clearly a reimaging of FF If execution is right this rumored plot isn't all bad.

It even incorporates the UFF N-Zone origin! I'm soooo hyped!

I suppose you're going to see this movie 10 times?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

The absolutely bat-***** crazy part of that synopsis, if it's real,

Think about some of the major flaws of the first film:

1. Reed not anything like Reed from the comics. Check
2. Doom not anything like Doom from the comics. Check
3. The Fantastic Four aren't really the Fantastic Four. Check
3. The second act makes the primary conflict of the film the discovery of and managing their powers. . . but then in the third act, the villain attacks opening up the possibility for the obligatory battle, but making a story that is a mess. Check
4. The end is all about Doom vs. the Four - as opposed to the four trying to prevent Doom from something he plans to do to the population in general. Heroes sacrifice themselves to protects innocents. (Good Superhero films don't have the heroes put the public in danger because of their existence only to 'save them' from a threat that wouldn't have existed without them.) Check

This is not only a terrible, formulaic story, but it uses the same formula that was tried and failed in the first film!!!

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Seriously...how can anyone defend this movie? It's not Fantastic Four at all.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

So i guess mole man doesn't fit in this supposed plot?

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

So i guess mole man doesn't fit in this supposed plot?

It was said that Mole Man will be the villain in the sequel. Here I suspect he will merely appear as Harvey Elder like Curt Connors did in the Raimi films.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Let me guess, this version of Mole Man is just a nerd with a big mole on his nose?

 

[Dark Raven]

The absolutely bat-***** crazy part of that synopsis, if it's real,

Think about some of the major flaws of the first film:

1. Reed not anything like Reed from the comics. Check
2. Doom not anything like Doom from the comics. Check
3. The Fantastic Four aren't really the Fantastic Four. Check
3. The second act makes the primary conflict of the film the discovery of and managing their powers. . . but then in the third act, the villain attacks opening up the possibility for the obligatory battle, but making a story that is a mess. Check
4. The end is all about Doom vs. the Four - as opposed to the four trying to prevent Doom from something he plans to do to the population in general. Heroes sacrifice themselves to protects innocents. (Good Superhero films don't have the heroes put the public in danger because of their existence only to 'save them' from a threat that wouldn't have existed without them.) Check

This is not only a terrible, formulaic story, but it uses the same formula that was tried and failed in the first film!!!

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

And Trank not only said he wanted to do something different from the first FF film that he criticised, but even said that before about his own Chronicle movie. And yet, here he is ripping off Chronicle and using the same basic structure as the first FF movie.

Trank always sounds like these fan artists who can't actually create a proper costume for a photomanipulation in Photoshop. So they say that they wanted to go for a more "realistic, grounded and gritty" approach of how it might look in real life and just used some existing image of someone in black leather and maybe just altered the tint on it. I remember a ton of these types of images on the net after the first Bryan Singer X-Men came out in 2000 where people just used the existing promo images that were released.

People who are intelligent enough should know when someone is bull ****ting you and saying that they wanted to take a lesser approach when in fact the lesser approach is all they're capable of and asking them to do something more spectacular is beyond their capabilities.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Let me guess, this version of Mole Man is just a nerd with a big mole on his nose?

 

[Quasar]

Let me guess, this version of Mole Man is just a nerd with a big mole on his nose?

And his name will now simply be The Mole.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

And Trank not only said he wanted to do something different from the first FF film that he criticised, but even said that before about his own Chronicle movie. And yet, here he is ripping off Chronicle and using the same basic structure as the first FF movie.

Trank always sounds like these fan artists who can't actually create a proper costume for a photomanipulation in Photoshop. So they say that they wanted to go for a more "realistic, grounded and gritty" approach of how it might look in real life and just used some existing image of someone in black leather and maybe just altered the tint on it. I remember a ton of these types of images on the net after the first Bryan Singer X-Men came out in 2000 where people just used the existing promo images that were released.

People who are intelligent enough should know when someone is bull ****ting you and saying that they wanted to take a lesser approach when in fact the lesser approach is all they're capable of and asking them to do something more spectacular is beyond their capabilities.

I think you're on to something. I also think the accountants said: "Keep it cheap." and the marketing people said: "Okay, we'll call it grounded and gritty."

 

[Dark Raven]

Harvey Specter could be Harvey Elder:

He has the moles there above his left eyebrow.

He would, of course, be just a specter of his comic book self.

 

[The Infernal]

And his name will now simply be The Mole.

Moooooooooooooooooooooooole. Moley moley moley moley..... mooooooooooole.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

And his name will now simply be The Mole.

Of course, and he starts out as a big fan of the Fantastic Four. One day, he gets to meet his heroes, he shakes hands with them, they sign photographs etc. He's about to leave, but forgets his glasses or something. From behind a door, he hears something disturbing:

Johnny: "...yeah, nice dude, but he should remove that mole. It doesn't look too good!"

The Mole: "They laugh at my mole, eh? It's always my mole...and my navel lint collection! Mole...that's it. I'm going to become a real mole!"

He starts to hang out with the gang just to steal their secrets and inventions.

 

[Kar]

In a perfect world this movie would have Doom disfigured after a lab incident leaving him in a hospital getting discouraging news from a doctor in which he replies (all while choking him out to his death):

"You're no doctor. I could be a better doctor....as a matter of fact, it has a nice ring to it. Doctor Doom."

Then he walks out after killing the guy then dons his armor in his lab.

But then again in a perfect world this movie wouldn't be made.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I shall wait till the first trailer.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Don't get hemorrhoids while you're waiting for that trailer.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Let me guess, this version of Mole Man is just a nerd with a big mole on his nose?

"In the film my name is Harvey Rupertstein Elderberry. But on blogs I'm 'the Mole.'"

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

"In the film my name is Harvey Rupertstein Elderberry. But on blogs I'm 'the Mole.'"

And just to piss off the fans even more, he's a giant bodybuilder or something.

 

[ThePhantasm]

#realism

#grounded

#notfantastic

 

[Eddie]

Hypothetically, if the movie is "well-made" apart from the facepalm plot, the potential is there for them to make an interesting arc for Doom.

For instance:
- A series (3 or 4 or 5 films) where Doom is the only villain.
- film 1: begins slowly with "Doomashev" developing powers and rivalry with Reed. learning he's more than just a programmer/blogger/"hactivist" disfigures himself and dons mask.
- film 2: renounces everything about his previous character in favor of gathering more power. discovers his gypsy parentage and real name "Von Doom," begins delving into sorcery
- film 3: takes over Latveria and rules with an iron fist. Is finally Doctor Doom in all his glory.


doubtful.

When it takes two films to correct the mistakes of one film you know that first film really **** the bed.