Fant4stic "I am DOOM! What MODS Dare Stand Against Me!

[Kelly]

Why would Ben go?

He's not part of the foundation.

I could be off, it has been awhile since I read UFF...but weren't they just testing using a plant or something and something went wrong, exploding so anyone near explosion was sent somewhere else? and with that gained their powers?

Which explains how Ben was exposed, but for the movie, I have no idea how that will be explained.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

If you can both tell that's him, you're both better than me. I'm not saying it's not, just that I would never identify him with any confidence from that shot.

But I think just the fact that Reed and Ben are talking to Johnny and Victor about the mission would indicate all four of them very well could be going.

And hopefully Ben is a pilot, so it could make sense he would be a good person to go. We just haven't seen any evidence he is a pilot in this version yet.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

If you can both tell that's him, you're both better than me. I'm not saying it's not, just that I would never identify him with any confidence from that shot.

But I think just the fact that Reed and Ben are talking to Johnny and Victor about the mission would indicate all four of them very well could be going.

Well, there are only three white dudes in the cast. Reed is wearing glasses. He's shorter than Reed. Doesn't look like Mara.

And hopefully Ben is a pilot, so it could make sense he would be a good person to go. We just haven't seen any evidence he is a pilot in this version yet.

Pilot? It's not a ship though.

Either it's Reed's hubris thinking nothing would go wrong or no one else wants to do it since this thing is experimental and Reed convinces Ben to go. Franklin is probably protective of Sue? Johnny is a mechanic so he's going in case of emergency fixes.

 

[Kelly]

I don't see how Ben could be a pilot of any caliber at that age...

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't see how Ben could be a pilot of any caliber at that age...

The machine probably just requires four people/pods to function. Ben is probably the only person familiar with it growing up with Reed.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Pilot? It's not a ship though.

Well the closest thing we could compare it to would seem to be a mission to space, and astronauts are typically pilots, so it would seem to make more sense to send a pilot on a mission like that than a physicist.

I don't see how Ben could be a pilot of any caliber at that age...

Do we know what age they are? It doesn't seem to follow UFF very closely, so I'm not sure what age they're supposed to be. Reed could be a college graduate and Ben could be an Air-Force Academy graduate by the time Reed starts working with Storm.

The only hint I can see regarding their age is Ben looks like he's at a high-school here:

But we also saw them as little kids, so we could see Reed and Ben go from Jr. high to high school and beyond before things really start.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Well the closest thing we could compare it to would seem to be a mission to space, and astronauts are typically pilots, so it would seem to make more sense to send a pilot on a mission like that than a physicist.

Oh, okay. I see what you mean.

The only hint I can see regarding their age is Ben looks like he's at a high-school here:

But we also saw them as little kids, so we could see Reed and Ben go from Jr. high to high school and beyond before things really start.

I'd assume 22 at the least.

Ben is probably a coach for a youth team.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

Not being a scientist, Ben could easily be along for the ride as support, maybe as military escort? I don't really think they're going down that line, though.

 

[Orba]

The black suits may just be a flashback to Franklin's failed 6 years.

I don't know. The big question I am still trying to figure out is just when and how Doom gets back to earth. The trailers appear to show Doom back on earth and strapped to a bed as well as running amok in the facility. The N-Zone beam of light stuff appears to be the finale of the film so you would assume that the base fight comes before that. So either there is another N-Zone trip between the white suit trip and the finale, or that Doom somehow manages to return to earth without anyones help. If he gets back due to another N-Zone trip then the black suited trip would seem to be the most likely cause.

 

[Quasar]

Ben's coming along because they need a professional baseball player on the team, in case a small baseball-sized asteroid comes at them while in the negative zone.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't know. The big question I am still trying to figure out is just when and how Doom gets back to earth. The trailers appear to show Doom back on earth and strapped to a bed as well as running amok in the facility. The N-Zone beam of light stuff appears to be the finale of the film so you would assume that the base fight comes before that. So either there is another N-Zone trip between the white suit trip and the finale, or that Doom somehow manages to return to earth without anyones help. If he gets back due to another N-Zone trip then the black suited trip would seem to be the most likely cause.

How the heck to the FF get back when Thing can't fit inside a pod?

"You opened a door you don't know how to close"

I assumed Doom found a way back cause he's freakin DOOM! and won't tell Reed how he did it so they have to follow him to stop what's coming and fall into Doom's trap.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Ben's coming along because they need a professional baseball player on the team, in case a small baseball-sized asteroid comes at them while in the negative zone.

 

[Orba]

How the heck to the FF get back when Thing can't fit inside a pod?

"You opened a door you don't know how to close"

Yeah Ben wouldn't fit in a pod while he was the Thing, but you would think that if they gave him the ability to switch forms the disability part of the powers would be lost along with the whole body horror aspect.

 

[Paradox1]

So I don't think Doom skin is made of any organic metal from a screen grab I have. Or at least in the scene where he wandering the N-Zone he isn't.

 

[Kelly]

So what do you think it is?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I don't know if there's any way to tell. The armor in UFF certainly doesn't look like "organic armor" but that's what it's supposed to be.

I think the only thing we can say at this point is: "It doesn't look like Doom's traditional armor"

 

[ThePhantasm]

Ugh

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I don't know if there's any way to tell. The armor in UFF certainly doesn't look like "organic armor" but that's what it's supposed to be.

I think the only thing we can say at this point is: "It doesn't look like Doom's traditional armor"

That looks horrible. They're making all the same mistakes again.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

That looks horrible. They're making all the same mistakes again.

Actually, on the specific topic of Doom's face, I think the first one got it better:

 

[Paradox1]

So what do you think it is?

I think he is just wearing mask. Here is the screen grab I was alluding to. If you look at his arm it just looks like normal skin.

 

[Snikt]

IMHO, both pictures from Fantastic 4 (2005) & Fantastic 4 (2015) look like Doom to me. It's pretty clear who he is.

As far as personalities go, I have a feeling Toby Kebbell will be closer to the source material than what McMahon was.

 

[Immortalfire]

Actually, on the specific topic of Doom's face, I think the first one got it better:

Agreed.

 

[Immortalfire]

As far as personalities go, I have a feeling Toby Kebbell will be closer to the source material than what McMahon was.

I guess I never read the F4 comics where Victor Von Doom was an anti social internet troll.

 

[RAE072]

I guess I never read the F4 comics where Victor Von Doom was an anti social internet troll.

I mean if I squint just enough and tilt my head to the left and blind myself in one eye with an unsharpened pencil and drink just an unnecessarily large amount of bleach then yeah Domashev totally looks just like Dr. Doom.

 

[fantasticfan]

I think he is just wearing mask. Here is the screen grab I was alluding to. If you look at his arm it just looks like normal skin.

I think this screen grab is AMAZING. I honestly can't see what his skin is, but he looks menacing.