I don't think Sandman had anything to do with Ben's death

[ultimatefan]

If he is the killer, doesn't that take away from the whole power and responsibility lesson of the story? I mean sure, Pete still learns a powerful lesson, but, I'm sorry, if Sandman ends up killing him, that will take away alot of classic story-telling for me.

No, because the burglar worked for Marko, if Peter had stopped him, Marko would just bail out and Ben wouldn´t have been killed.

 

[Iglius]

I know, I said Pete still learns a powerful lesson, but it just takes away from the story for me.

 

[Brown]

where are all these set pics that people are referring to?

 

[Mr. Vice]

I know, I said Pete still learns a powerful lesson, but it just takes away from the story for me.

Agreed.

 

[ultimatefan]

I know, I said Pete still learns a powerful lesson, but it just takes away from the story for me.

Okay, but takes what, specifically? One thing is it just not being the exact same thing that you recognize, and the other is to actually damage the important elements of the story. For instance, Peter holding Ben´s hand as he dies is not from the comics, but does it hurt the story in anyway? No.

 

[Visionary]

I just hope its not true. They'll be tampering with one of the greatest stories ever told.

So the Bible is second to that of Spidey's comics, yeah, okay?

 

[Iglius]

So the Bible is second to that of Spidey's comics, yeah, okay?

I said one of the greatset stories ever told. Thats an opinion. And did I say a word about the Bible?

 

[lordofthenerds]

So the Bible is second to that of Spidey's comics, yeah, okay?

Are you calling the bible a story! You're going right downstairs!

 

[Visionary]

I said one of the greatset stories ever told.

What are the others, I'd like to read them?

 

[Visionary]

Are you calling the bible a story! You're going right downstairs!

I hope not, my basement is a mess.

 

[ultimatefan]

Are you calling the bible a story! You're going right downstairs!

Oh yeah, that´s right, it´s not... It´s a fairy tale...

 

[Iglius]

What are the others, I'd like to read them?

My point is, I think Spidey's origin was very advanced for the time. It was the comic with the best message. Its just one of those stories that you could set in about any universe and it would make sense. And since you like to be a smart-ass, I'm not saying radioactive spiders biting teenagers who then devote their lives to fighting crime could fit into any universe, I just mean the core elements of the story stand the test of time. Sandman being Ben's killer wouldn't change the fact that Peter learns his lesson, it would just take away from the story in my opinion. Its a classic story that, in my opinion, doesn't need to be altered.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Oh yeah, that´s right, it´s not... It´s a fairy tale...

You can go down with him!

 

[ultimatefan]

My point is, I think Spidey's origin was very advanced for the time. It was the comic with the best message. Its just one of those stories that you could set in about any universe and it would make sense. And since you like to be a smart-ass, I'm not saying radioactive spiders biting teenagers who then devote their lives to fighting crime could fit into any universe, I just mean the core elements of the story stand the test of time. Sandman being Ben's killer wouldn't change the fact that Peter learns his lesson, it would just take away from the story in my opinion. Its a classic story that, in my opinion, doesn't need to be altered.

Yeah, but the thing is, you´re not exactly explaining WHAT it takes away. What does it lose, if it doesn´t change its pivotal element, the message that Peter learns?

 

[Visionary]

My point is, I think Spidey's origin was very advanced for the time. It was the comic with the best message. Its just one of those stories that you could set in about any universe and it would make sense. And since you like to be a smart-ass, I'm not saying radioactive spiders biting teenagers who then devote their lives to fighting crime could fit into any universe, I just mean the core elements of the story stand the test of time. Sandman being Ben's killer wouldn't change the fact that Peter learns his lesson, it would just take away from the story in my opinion. Its a classic story that, in my opinion, doesn't need to be altered.

At one point or another, something always gets altered in the world of comics, comic book cartoons and comic book movies--it's been happening for decades, and it will continue. What are you going to do, I thought you people would be use to it by now...I guess not?

Sony and Sam Raimi clearly got this message (it was all over their own message board), what will they go with come 2007, now that's another story.

 

[Visionary]

Yeah, but the thing is, you´re not exactly explaining WHAT it takes away. What does it lose, if it doesn´t change its pivotal element, the message that Peter learns?

I notice that too, people can't seem to pinpoint what it takes away. But hey, you're on comic book grounds, everyone has that something they want and don't want, everyone has their own movie running inside of their head. And when it doesn't match up, they explode on impact like a card released from Gambit's hand.

 

[fear&loathing]

So the Bible is second to that of Spidey's comics, yeah, okay?

you have the kind of queer sarcastic wit that someone who jacks off to these comic books have. that crap is really freaking annoying. that attitude belongs to kids who get hung upside down for their lunch money even when they're 30.

 

[Parquagh]

I hope Sandman is just the boss or accomplice of the car jacker... or the symbiote flashback theory you mentioned...

 

[giggs11uk]

i think he didn't kill uncle ben. he tried to stop the real theif from doin it, but it looked like he did and spidey goes after him. He then thinks he has killed sandman only to later find out that he had nothing to do with it

 

[fear&loathing]

i hope there is finally a villain who lives at the end (the symbiote does not count because it is not really a being, more like a parasite) and since we're pretty sure Harry dies, basically I'm saying I hope Sandman gets brought back to normal or somehow gets away...

 

[Fran]

Don't count on it.

Yeah, it probably won't happen.

I'm not dissing the Q&A at all.

 

[PalmerTheThing]

Flint Marko is a Gentel man. He just kills cops cause they make fun of him.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I hope Sandman is just the boss or accomplice of the car jacker... or the symbiote flashback theory you mentioned...

i hope he isnt because if he is its ruining the with great power comes great responsibility phrase. thats why hes spiderman you cant take that away from him he will always remember those words from his uncle ben.

 

[PalmerTheThing]

Meh Pointless

 

[ultimatefan]

i hope he isnt because if he is its ruining the with great power comes great responsibility phrase. thats why hes spiderman you cant take that away from him he will always remember those words from his uncle ben.

That´s what we been trying to explain, it doesn´t change the significance of the phrase, the jacker worked for Flint, if Peter had stopped him, Flint would have just bailed out and there would be no need for the car hijacking.