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I gotta vent some frustration

I am genuinely shocked your dentist can say that in a professional environment. Aren't there laws about religious freedom and not using derogative language in your area? That's not ok and you shouldn't just have to put up with it.
 
I'm sorry you have to deal with the world being so a anti-Muslim these days.
bro, it's not that bad. like, this doesn't happen to me all the time. if most christians thought and acted the same way as he did, i obviously wouldn't be able to have any christian friends.

i went to a university where the demographics were very very diverse, and I think everyone who attended there who was social had the pleasure of being part of a melting pot in a campus limited society
Agree with this.

Sorry about your incident XB.
thank you good sir.
That's the exit cue. There's no law that you have to listen/respond to ********. Let him keep talking if he wants. Will sound pretty stupid after no responses for a minute. Don't let pratts ruin your day. ;)
the rest of my day was better bro :) it's just I could not stop thinking about how rude that guy was being for a while. it was stuck in my head like the entire time on my ride back home from the dentist.
That's awful that people are so prejudice against people that are Muslim. Such an irrational hatred because of the actions of a very small group of people.
yeah man, he even called the religion a cult. he just wouldn't stop.
Sorry this happened to you, XtremelyBaneful.:( That guy is a disrespectful misinformed moron. Don't let him get you down.
thank you, Marvolo. it is the support from others that truly shows you that you're not alone. it's too bad I was alone when the guy was berating me though.
Aww, that sucks.

I get this sometimes from other Christian denominations. I'm Catholic, so I get a lot of, "Oh, so you're not really a Christian", and then they talk about saving my soul or whatnot. OR, conversely, if they are not religious, I get to hear someone yap at me at how my religion has ruined All The Things.

People suck. Sorry you had to put up with someone who hasn't learned to keep their opinions to themselves.
yap, that is just as bad. in fact, I would say what you had to go through was even worse. being a part of the same faith and having one from another denomination telling you you're wrong, even though you guys follow the same scripture (bible)? i'm sorry that happened to you.

and thank you for your support.
This kind of thing just reminds me that so many problems in the world just come down to people not having what should be common sense self awareness. How DENSE does someone have to be to seemingly go OUT of his way to continue on deconstructing someone else's religious beliefs, all in a disrespectful manner to their face. If the tables were turned how would he feel if he met someone that kept hounding on Christianity? Not too good I'd guess. This is all coming from a dyed in the wool Atheist/Materialist who has problems with ALL religions, especially the Abrahamic faiths, but in day to day contact I don't go deconstructing people's faiths to their faces, and in fact my good friend that I have contact with every day is a true believer born again. How is that possible? Cuz I have a bare minimum of self awareness and know that wouldn't be conducive to regular day to day operations in the world, not to mention it's pretty Zod-Damned rude.
I always forget to say things in the middle of an argument with someone. What I should've said to him was what I said to da champion above. "sir, if every Christian thought the same as you do about me, I would not have any Christian friends."

He was older than me, like at least 40 or something, and he probably hasn't interacted with very many people different from himself. But that doesn't give him an excuse to be condescending when he does meet someone different.

XB, that guy was just a d**k. I don't care what you believe, as long as you believe in it wholeheartedly.
same man. you don't have to be the same as me to get along with me, but just, don't pressure your beliefs on to me. you know what i'm saying?
Salaam, Baneful.

Discussions like these bring up the thought of:
"If that was true, then how do we exist? Won't older generations possibly severe one of or more of my ancestors, and with it the chance of me existing?"

The problem is if the other end thinks these thoughts are smartarse replies, and prolong the conversation in the wrong way.
You made the smart choice ignoring the jerk.
The dentist doesn't know when something like this will happen.
Such a situation could occur in the supermarket, or in a subway cart.
Walaikuum aziz.

Although I need to clear up the misconception that this man was NOT my dentist. He was another man who had an 8am appt, the dentistry opened right at 8 so he and I were outside talking and then continued talking as the receptionist unlocked the doors to go inside, and continued the conversation in the lobby.
I am genuinely shocked your dentist can say that in a professional environment. Aren't there laws about religious freedom and not using derogative language in your area? That's not ok and you shouldn't just have to put up with it.

I'm sorry, I need to make clear that the man I was having the conversation with was NOT the dentist, but another person who had an appointment at the same time as I did who just decided to start talking to me.

In short, the discussion of god and religion came up after I used the term "god willing" (the context was jobs, I just graduated and said something like, 'god willing i'll get a job soon), and then went downhill after I revealed to him that I am a Muslim.
 
Walaikuum aziz.

Although I need to clear up the misconception that this man was NOT my dentist. He was another man who had an 8am appt, the dentistry opened right at 8 so he and I were outside talking and then continued talking as the receptionist unlocked the doors to go inside, and continued the conversation in the lobby.
Paid attention to that point.
I was trying to say that the dentist has no fault in the other patient being an ass.
 
How does he know God's true religion?

Did he conversate with God personally?

Dude sounds like a real life troll. I bet he goes around doing the same thing to Atheist, Catholics, Buddhist, etc.
 
Paid attention to that point.
I was trying to say that the dentist has no fault in the other patient being an ass.
oh okay. the thing about the other stuff you said is that, on the spot I usually can't ever think of the right thing to say in an argument. then later I think about it and say to myself.. "damn why didn't I say THAT?" the possible question you posed as a response, might've succeeded in shutting that guy up. definitely. he didn't seem like he'd be ready for something like that.
Haha. That's for clearing that up.
yeah my bad.
How does he know God's true religion?

Did he conversate with God personally?

Dude sounds like a real life troll. I bet he goes around doing the same thing to Atheist, Catholics, Buddhist, etc.
I think he was just a little old and doesn't know a lot of people who are different from himself.
 
same man. you don't have to be the same as me to get along with me, but just, don't pressure your beliefs on to me. you know what i'm saying?

I had this same conversation with my co-gravedigger Mustafa :hehe: he's a crazy bastard but he's cool.
 
I used to work for a Muslim doctor and we still keep in touch. He was very spiritual and talked more about peace and brotherhood than most Christians I've known. The problem here is that every religion has extremists that take their written word out of context to fuel their hateful views. What's best is to fight hate with love...even though it's very hard and personal.
 
Oh man, screw that dude. I live in the bible belt, I know all about that kind of ignorance. I'm not Muslim or anything but I do actually have a couple close friends who are and the amount of **** they have to deal with day to day is staggering.
 
I had this same conversation with my co-gravedigger Mustafa :hehe: he's a crazy bastard but he's cool.

Senty works the graveyard shift.


Too bad that's not literal; Senty is a nighttime gravedigger, and his only company is a slightly unbalanced coworker named Mustafa. Tell me that isn't a real-life Alejandro González Iñárritu film. :woot:
 
James Franco as Senty and Terry Crewes as Mustafa.
 
Aww, that sucks.

I get this sometimes from other Christian denominations. I'm Catholic, so I get a lot of, "Oh, so you're not really a Christian", and then they talk about saving my soul or whatnot. OR, conversely, if they are not religious, I get to hear someone yap at me at how my religion has ruined All The Things.

People suck. Sorry you had to put up with someone who hasn't learned to keep their opinions to themselves.

My girlfriend is a Lutheran and she loves to remind me that in her words, "Catholics are cray." Never mind I'm an atheist now, I was raised Catholic so I was raised crazy. It still bothers me that she says that. I eventually told her to knock it off and to her credit she has.

Then again I served a customer not long ago that assumed I was Catholic and told me there is no such thing as a bad Catholic. He said that was his Christmas gift to me. So yes, that was one crazy Catholic.
 
I have family members like this. Very outspoken and opinionated. They could care less if they upset anyone. They just like to hear themselves talk. I just ignore them. But it is really hard to when I see them a lot. Especially when I am forced to talk with them during family get togethers. I have a full fledged conservative Christian Uncle who still yells at me to this day because I liked some Buddhist pages on my Facebook. I consider myself Christian but I really like the teachings of the Buddha as well. So because of that I get the "Your not a Christian! You're a Hindu!" comments. :whatever:
I also have a full fledged Atheist uncle in my family who also has to give me his 2 cents. The typical "HAHA" comments are getting old. I also can't stand listening to anymore of their political and religious conspiracy theories. :o
I used to enjoy watching the two going at it at family parties. I would always keep my distance and watch from a far. But now it is just getting tiresome. And whenever I hear "Family party!" I cry. It is hard. But I just try to ignore it and put on my fake Happy face mask every time I see them. :woot:
:csad:
 
I have family members like this. Very outspoken and opinionated. They could care less if they upset anyone. They just like to hear themselves talk. I just ignore them. But it is really hard to when I see them a lot. Especially when I am forced to talk with them during family get togethers. I have a full fledged conservative Christian Uncle who still yells at me to this day because I liked some Buddhist pages on my Facebook. I consider myself Christian but I really like the teachings of the Buddha as well. So because of that I get the "Your not a Christian! You're a Hindu!" comments. :whatever:
I also have a full fledged Atheist uncle in my family who also has to give me his 2 cents. The typical "HAHA" comments are getting old. I also can't stand listening to anymore of their political and religious conspiracy theories. :o
I used to enjoy watching the two going at it at family parties. I would always keep my distance and watch from a far. But now it is just getting tiresome. And whenever I hear "Family party!" I cry. It is hard. But I just try to ignore it and put on my fake Happy face mask every time I see them. :woot:
:csad:

damn. well at least with family you could be a little more personal (like you could yell at them back and tell them they're wrong and stuff). like, it's not like you don't know the person. but it might ruin your day a lot more. I've never had such a thing happen with family before.
 
Wow that guy was a total *****e, nobody asked for his opinion on Islam.

I would have been tempted to tell him to go **** himself but of course I probably wouldn't have because my moms voice would be blaring in my mind. "Don't do it Zak, don't do Zak, walk away."

After 9/11, which just because I have the worlds most popular last name doesn't mean I was involved in, some moron tried to spew some junk at me. I'm like back off dude in my mind at least.

I don't care if you are Muslim, Christian or an Atheist, I don't like pushy religious (or non religious) loud mouth converters. I'm like you do you fella.
 
I'm at Panera Bread for breakfast and there are two old guys having a Muslim bashing chat in a corner.
 
Wow that guy was a total *****e, nobody asked for his opinion on Islam.

I would have been tempted to tell him to go **** himself but of course I probably wouldn't have because my moms voice would be blaring in my mind. "Don't do it Zak, don't do Zak, walk away."

After 9/11, which just because I have the worlds most popular last name doesn't mean I was involved in, some moron tried to spew some junk at me. I'm like back off dude in my mind at least.

I don't care if you are Muslim, Christian or an Atheist, I don't like pushy religious (or non religious) loud mouth converters. I'm like you do you fella.
If I started getting vulgar with him it could've created a scene. I'd've wanted to avoid that. I was there for a dentist 6 month cleaning, nothing more.
I'm at Panera Bread for breakfast and there are two old guys having a Muslim bashing chat in a corner.
Well, that's awful. There either wasn't many people there, or they were talking so loud that you were able to hear them from a considerable distance, which is obnoxious.

If I was there, I might've been bold enough to go up to them and been like "excuse me, are you talking about me?" to get a reaction.
 
That guy lacks self awareness. I would never start a debate about anything with a stranger at the dentist. Who the hell wants that on their plate?
 
That guy lacks self awareness. I would never start a debate about anything with a stranger at the dentist. Who the hell wants that on their plate?
the conversation was fine until I told him I was a Muslim. and then he decided to, you know. of course I didn't want that on my plate right at the dentist lobby, the guy was making me uncomfortable. if he didn't stop talking to me, I would've said that.

What I should've said to him that I didn't think of at the time was, I wouldn't have any christian friends if they all thought the same as he did. and, that he probably didn't personally know very many Muslim people.
 
If I started getting vulgar with him it could've created a scene. I'd've wanted to avoid that. I was there for a dentist 6 month cleaning, nothing more.

Well, that's awful. There either wasn't many people there, or they were talking so loud that you were able to hear them from a considerable distance, which is obnoxious.

If I was there, I might've been bold enough to go up to them and been like "excuse me, are you talking about me?" to get a reaction.
You definitely did the right thing by not starting anything with him I'm just saying that I would have been really tempted to.
 

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