Superman Returns I Loved SR, but... The Nit-pick thread.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Why so interested in what I'd do? I'm not lois...

But anyway Option one she didn't have. School was closed. she could leave him with richard or whoever for a while though, perhaps.

NO she couldnt have, if she had gone to Richard he would have prevented from going to the source of the blackout because she was going the pulitzer. Perry White also wouldnt have let her go back.

Option two is one that happens all the time in real life i believe. My parents have **** to do so they've left me and my sister in the car while going to the bank or whatever. One time I shifted the gear on the car 'accidentally ' and it started to roll forward down a street it was parked on. Then My father came running out of the store or whatever, stopped the car and beat me to hell for it. ah... memories.

Though I don't think all kids in cars can really hit a gear or whatever and suddenly start the car rolling like I did. Even after that, my dad left me in the car, of course making sure the car had the parking brake on and was completely shut off though. The last option is trespassing and I think that's a no-no, definitely when it involves a very young child being brought along.

Yes, but its different leaving kids in a car in a busy public place, like a supermarket carpark or outside of a bank. But leave them outside a strange house were no civilians go by? I doubt it.

But if it were me, yeah I'd just go home and watch howard the Duck. Then return later without putting my child at risk while trespassing. Or just watch the boat for any passengers that'd be there like I said before.

Good for you, but everyones different as i said.

 

[The Kid]

NO she couldnt have, if she had gone to Richard he would have prevented from going to the source of the blackout because she was going the pulitzer. Perry White also wouldnt have let her go back.



Yes, but its different leaving kids in a car in a busy public place, like a supermarket carpark or outside of a bank. But leave them outside a strange house were no civilians go by? I doubt it.



Good for you, but everyones different as i said.

Is this a game? you asked me what I'd do so I tell you what I'd do and then you say "good for you but everyone's different". What's going on? (I'm not up for mindgames today.)

As for the other stuff, it's arguable what could and couldn't happen if she decided not to trespass with jason.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Is this a game? you asked me what I'd do so I tell you what I'd do and then you say "good for you but everyone's different". What's going on? (I'm not up for mindgames today.)

As for the other stuff, it's arguable what could and couldn't happen if she decided not to trespass with jason.

No, im asking what you would Lois' situation in the movie, and you havent given me a credible answer.

And you keep debating the options open to Lois as well.

 

[DogofKrypton]

Is this a game? you asked me what I'd do so I tell you what I'd do and then you say "good for you but everyone's different". What's going on? (I'm not up for mindgames today.)

As for the other stuff, it's arguable what could and couldn't happen if she decided not to trespass with jason.

Are you surprised? Remember who you are dealing with...

All valid points, by the way.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Are you surprised? Remember who you are dealing with...

All valid points, by the way.

Look whos talking, master discusser there.

 

[The Kid]

No, im asking what you would Lois' situation in the movie, and you havent given me a credible answer.

And you keep debating the options open to Lois as well.

*explodes*

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

*explodes*

LOL fair enough

 

[DogofKrypton]

Look whos talking, master discusser there.

*Yawn*

 

[NateGray]

Look whos talking, master discusser there.

LMAO perhaps you should read your BLIND defense of SR posts sometimes they would make a real Lawyer's head explode they are soo chocked full of pure fanboism BS defense's its not even funny.

 

[Lighthouse]

You know I could live with all the little nitpicks if I just felt more connected to Superman. People say there was a lack of action in the movie, and its also been pointed out that there wasn't much action in the first one either. I've never thought the action was the problem, but my main and hugest gripe which was critical to me with the movie was how disconnected I felt to Superman. In the first one, you journey with him through his life, his discovery of who he is, and his first appearance in Metropolis. Reeve and East(dubbed by Reeve) had an abundance of diaglogue and though I can't relate to Superman, I definately felt connected to him. In SR, Routh barely has any lines. Singer, Dougherty, and Harris thought they'd make him more relatable by putting him in certain relatable situations, but thats not how you connect to Superman. Its Superman reacting to those situations, not just being in them. Clark you just got home to see your mother for the first time in 5 years, what are you feeling? Your girlfriend? Why did you need to leave? I just felt we got nothing from Superman. In the next movie, I want more Superman. Not punching crap all the time, but I want him to talk a hell of a lot more than he did in SR.

 

[Visionary]

My one nit-pick is...Bryan Singer as the director. Get rid of him or suffer another failed film, Warner Bros./Legendary.

 

[Mr. Socko]

^I sincerely concur.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

More than a nit pick, I feel it was a bad decision to cut out sooooooo much of the story for the sake of shortening the film. Key things we missed out on being....

The return to Krypton sequence just seems like an odd thing to cut regardless of the film being long. I mean, the plot device is that he's been away for like 5 years... Shouldn't they have kept it to show what he was away doing rather than just reference it?

Remember that pic we kept seeing of Clark reading a newspaper that read "Why the world doesn't need Superman" ?? The scene where he catches up on what's happened by going through newspapers was cut.

How about Martha moving on in her life, the scene where I got my signature from lol.. "Even you can't stop the world from spinning..." The entire relationship that was going to be revealed was cut. If we can take a chance with Lois having a kid why can't we have Martha dating? The world has moved on without him after all.

Here is another one for ya, remember that cool pic of Superman with the glasses on in front of the mirror that was one of everyone's fav pics that got them hyped?? THEY cut that scene too

 

[MJB]

I have a few nitpicks, well they are more then nitpicks, but I can keep my blinders on.

Superman had way to few lines.

Why did Clark jump when Jimmy walked up behind him when he was looking at that picture on Lois's desk. He got superhearing, Jimmy shouldn't have starled him.

Lex's plan.

Singer rehashing everything.

Why in the world would Lex be able to access the computer at the fortress when it's supposed to respond to Kal-El only? So unlike the comics, the fortress is security free?

Supes tearing up over Lois, man I'm glad a tear didn't streak down his face.

supes pulling a peeping Tom at Lois's house.

No real threat for Superman to face.

Martha was cast way to old.

Bosworth is to damn skinny, all her cloths she had on in the film looked to big for her.

Why is Jimmy Olsen Older then Lois? The actor playing Olsen looked older, so I checked, and he is.

Kal Penn had not one line.

Singer giving Superman zero to do. The worst of everything.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

LMAO perhaps you should read your BLIND defense of SR posts sometimes they would make a real Lawyer's head explode they are soo chocked full of pure fanboism BS defense's its not even funny.

How can it be fanboyism, i have admitted that he made some mistakes with this movie. But some of the mistakes people are claiming i disagree with. And i do discuss, i dont tell people their opinions are wrong do i?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I definately felt that the Return to Krypton scene should have been kept in, even if it was shortened down, it would have given the general audience a bit more of the story and why it was so important that Superman left.

 

[Super Kal]

the shade of red was my nitpick... if you consider that a nit-pick.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Why did Clark jump when Jimmy walked up behind him when he was looking at that picture on Lois's desk. He got superhearing, Jimmy shouldn't have starled him.

Yeah, i felt weird about it too

Lex's plan.

I´ve been saying this since before the movie came out, the plan is ridiculous at best

Singer rehashing everything.

Singer´s vision is not a nit-pick, it´s a major flaw

Why in the world would Lex be able to access the computer at the fortress when it's supposed to respond to Kal-El only? So unlike the comics, the fortress is security free?

I said that too in my review, that was just stupid

supes pulling a peeping Tom at Lois's house.

Yeah, way out of character

More nit-picks....

- Since he was stabbed, until he went to the hospital, Superman had a chunk of Kryptonite in his back. That alone would have killed him a long time ago, and he would have noticed the effects.

- Superman´s eyes change color. In some scenes they are blue (as they should), in others, they are brown. In the first scene, right after his comeback, when he is in his room, looking at the stars drawn in the cealing, there is a big close up of his eyes...they are dark brown.

- The explosion of Krypton. It´s a great effect, one of the best moments ofthe movie. The way the camera pulls out of krypton, until we see the planet itself, and then the gigantic sun appears at the back, giving it the only wow moment of the all movie. But, the sun didn´t exploded, Krypton did, so, that was a major flaw in the movie. Sure they wanted to gave us a scientific explanation, because we all know that everyone sun will explode eventually, and before that, it goes red. But, if the sun exploded and not Krypton....WTF IS KRYPTONITE??

 

[The Kid]

It's a re-creation of the original in cgi. In the original, both the sun and krypton explode, but in this one the sun goes kablooey but krypton takes its time before exploding too or something. I just guess it evaporated in the sun's explosion. Really though I can't remember exactly how it went, but I guess you're right. If chunks of krypton weren't blown off into the universe there'd be no kryptonite.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

If chunks of krypton weren't blown off into the universe there'd be no kryptonite.

That´s not the problem here.

In the movie, the sun explodes, and Krypton it´s hit by the blast radius, so, exploding as well.
The problem is not that chunks of Krypton weren´t blown off into the universe, the problem is, the reason why Krypton exploded was because the planet´s core became radioactive, started the grown and the planet.
Now, Kryptonite is the planet´s core....
If the sun exploded, there isn´t any radioactive core in the picture so, once again, WTF IS KRYPTONITE?

BTW, i know that it´s a re-creation of Donner´s Superman, but that was a huge flaw then as well.

 

[C. Lee]

- The explosion of Krypton. It´s a great effect, one of the best moments ofthe movie. The way the camera pulls out of krypton, until we see the planet itself, and then the gigantic sun appears at the back, giving it the only wow moment of the all movie. But, the sun didn´t exploded, Krypton did, so, that was a major flaw in the movie. Sure they wanted to gave us a scientific explanation, because we all know that everyone sun will explode eventually, and before that, it goes red. But, if the sun exploded and not Krypton....WTF IS KRYPTONITE??

The sun imploded at first (fell back in on itself) and then exploded outward...which blew the planet Krypton apart and thus created the Kryptonite.

 

[C. Lee]

That´s not the problem here.

In the movie, the sun explodes, and Krypton it´s hit by the blast radius, so, exploding as well.
The problem is not that chunks of Krypton weren´t blown off into the universe, the problem is, the reason why Krypton exploded was because the planet´s core became radioactive, started the grown and the planet.
Now, Kryptonite is the planet´s core....
If the sun exploded, there isn´t any radioactive core in the picture so, once again, WTF IS KRYPTONITE?

BTW, i know that it´s a re-creation of Donner´s Superman, but that was a huge flaw then as well.

Here's my thoughts.

I don't remember where it is definatively said that Krypton's core became radioactive and made the planet's debris become lethal...I've heard the planet was unstable or it's sun was unstable...and one or the other exploded then the radiation created by this giant stellar event caused the debris to become lethal.

Stars are full of all kinds of radiation...and if it exploded, and sent that radiation out with it's concussion force, the concussion would destroy the planet and irradiate the debris.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Stars are full of all kinds of radiation...and if it exploded, and sent that radiation out with it's concussion force, the concussion would destroy the planet and irradiate the debris.

It´s a theory, but i don´t buy it.

If a star has radiation, lethal to the inhabitants of an adjacent planet, that planet would never had life.
If a star has radiation, and it´s not lethal, it will not became lethal after exploding.
Any natural explosion (and the key word is: natural) will not change the properties of the material involve in the incident.
That can only occur if the explosion is exposed to something unnatural to it.

That is not the case here, the explosion of Rao (Krypton´s sun) was natural, so, the question remains, WTF IS KRYPTONITE?

 

[C. Lee]

It´s a theory, but i don´t buy it.

If a star has radiation, lethal to the inhabitants of an adjacent planet, that planet would never had life.
If a star has radiation, and it´s not lethal, it will not became lethal after exploding.
Any natural explosion (and the key word is: natural) will not change the properties of the material involve in the incident.
That can only occur if the explosion is exposed to something unnatural to it.

That is not the case here, the explosion of Rao (Krypton´s sun) was natural, so, the question remains, WTF IS KRYPTONITE?

Our sun's radiation is lethal to us...but it is far away and our atmosphere helps filter it out...if our sun exploded and it's wake encompassed and destroyed the Earth, it could make that debris irradiated also.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Our sun's radiation is lethal to us...but it is far away and our atmosphere helps filter it out...if our sun exploded and it's wake encompassed and destroyed the Earth, it could make that debris irradiated also.

IT COULD MAKE.....but that´s not certain.
I don´t buy it, not in comparition to Kryptonite.
But let´s go with it, let´s say that Rao´s explosion would indeed irradiate the debris.
I still don´t buy that it would create Kryptonite, not the Kryptonite we all know and the effects it can produce over Superman.

Ever heard of the "GREEN PLAGUE"?
That alone gives an all new meaning to the word Kryptonite, and why the explosion of the sun and not Krypton, change everything about the K-rock.