Fant4stic I think this deserves its own thread...Josh Trank denounces Fantastic Four

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To read about how Fox at numerous points wanted to scrap the whole project only further proves what a shameless soulless rights grab this movie was. If it wasn't about keeping the rights they would have listened to those nagging doubts and wouldn't have tried to foist this garbage on unsuspecting audiences. Further, you are seriously thinking about scrapping the project, rumors leak that you're actively asking other directors to replace Trank and what do you do? You say "NO we're going forward with it anyway and not only that we're announcing a sequel!" Before a single shot has been framed? Pure deception. Fox knew what they had. They knew!

RIGHTS GRAB!
 
This is also exactly why this whole situation needs to die where these studios crank out these movies just to keep the rights. I can't imagine a worse reason to make a movie. First Ghost Rider 2, Amazing Spider-Man and now this? This kind of garbage will only accelerate the proverbial dreaded sword of Damocles aka "superhero fatigue".

At least Universal had the sense to not try and make another Hulk movie. And now they're doing all right for themselves. Over $5 billion in box office receipts worldwide for 2015.

How 'bout that? Turned out they didn't need superhero movies after all.
 
I dont get tweets, people tweet something crazy or upsurd then they delete it, its weird. Trank wasnt just thinking outloud, he clicked post or whatever after he wrote that so he had a thought process.
 
Man that Hollywood reporter article is VERY enlightening and not surprising. I mean, we FELT that something was wrong with this production from start. Fox never said a word about this movie during production and there were never any official cast announcements. When your studio doesn't announce its starring cast for a major summer film, you know something is terribly wrong.

Plain and simple, i think Trank is just one of those indie directors that thought he was ready for prime time and he got in waaaay over his head and let it crush him. However, tbat doesnt excuse his behavior. If he was that overwhelmed he should have just quit the project instead of spreading his misery.
 
That's why he was so awful to Kate Mara. How dare that woman breathe when Trank tells her not to?! :o
 
The Hollywood Reporter summary of Trank's alleged behaviour during shooting and Fox's mishandling of the movie

Trank sent a email to select members of the cast days before the movie was released in which he said Fantastic Four was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made," he received a response from one cast member saying only: "I don’t think so."

Trank apparently didn't produce good enough material to ever create a film which could be salvaged, and refused help from the studio and producers. "He holed up in a tent and cut himself off from everybody," one insider tells the site. "He built a black tent around his monitor. He was extremely withdrawn. [He] would go to his trailer and he wouldn’t interact with anybody."

While Fox initially had faith in Trank's vision of a grounded and gritty Fantastic Four movie, it appears as if the filmmaker took that too far as he forced a gloomy tone on the movie by obsessing over the cast's performance. "During takes, he would be telling [cast members] when to blink and when to breathe. He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."

You may remember some time ago that Josh Trank and his dogs were accused of causing as much as $100,000 worth of damage to a house which was rented for him in Baton Rouge by Fox. After landlord Martin Padial made moves to evict the director, "photographs of the landlord’s family that were in the house were defaced. Padial made a complaint to the local sheriff’s department and filed a civil suit in Louisiana that is sealed.The sheriff’s department says the case was 'closed as a civil matter between landlord and tenant.'"

Before you completely blame Trank for how Fantastic Four turned out, one source says that the movie was always "ill-conceived, made for the wrong reasons and there was no vision behind the property." Fox were terrified of losing the rights to Marvel and the reboot was in chaos before shooting even started. They "were afraid of losing the rights so they pressed forward and didn’t surround [Trank] with help or fire him. They buried their heads in the sand."

While they initially considered firing Trank, Fox had faith in the director and believed he could be the next J.J. Abrams. However, as it became apparent that he couldn't cope with the movie, it was simply to late to ditch him. "How do you ask someone to take over half of a movie shot by someone else? You either hire somebody desperate for work or you [start over], write off pretty much the whole budget and lose the cast."

Those reshoots have been blamed for the poor quality of Fantastic Four, but the movie apparently didn't even have an ending when shooting concluded. Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker scrambled to come up with something, but the former's busy schedule and the fact that much of the cast was unavailable led to "a lot of material was shot with doubles and the production moved to Los Angeles to film scenes with Teller against a green screen. 'It was chaos,' says a crew member, adding that Trank was still in attendance 'but was neutralized by a committee.'"

Who was responsible for that terrible ending and second act? Fox reportedly put together a dream team to rescue the move, and that included Drew Goddard. Whatever he and the rest of that team did obviously failed horribly!

Trank sounds like a immature egomaniac who was out of his depth.
 
He also sounds like a weirdo. Who holes themselves off in a tent like that? He seems like he's very difficult to work with and not a team player at all.
 
Stop embarrassing yourself Fox. You really expect people to believe you didn't realize Trank wasn't ready until a couple of months before filming? Tranks dogs didn't direct the movie and he isn't some great director who has his vision messed with.

They may not have liked his tone but they were still going ahead with his script even if they got a new director.

Singer's Superman Returns failed but it was Singer's movie. Minus a 10 million dollar scene and an ill-conceived child for him and Lois. And barely any action.

If you cut three action scenes from an action movie you aren't making an action movie.
 
Fox is doing a number on Trank in the press. Because these "sources" is definitely Fox.
 
It doesn't really matter. Fox was going to let him take the blame as a mulligan and get Singer to come in and fix it.

I'm sure if he still had Star Wars lined up he would have stayed quiet.
 
surely an up and coming director can't **** up his career so badly with his own actions like this....can he? this whole thing he said/she said mess is just so pathetic.
 
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