I Would...But I Know Where The Wrestling Thread Has Been

[bullets]

I watched that 50 greatest superstars on netflix.....Hogan at 20....that's just spiteful.

I love how they try to b.s. us and say the list was voted on by the wwe superstars.

 

[Nemi]

I love how they try to b.s. us and say the list was voted on by the wwe superstars.

"********. We can smell it.''

 

[Metallo]

Austin doesn't even like Hogan and even he called most of the list bulls***.

Reminds me of when WWE left Shawn Michaels off the greatest talkers list entirely...WTF? But he (rightfully) ends up on the Top 50 stars list. Those two things don't jive.

 

[Nemi]

At least it's not as bad as those factoids or how they keep calling themselves the ''longest running weekly episodic show'' or something.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I watched that 50 greatest superstars on netflix.....Hogan at 20....that's just spiteful.

When I look at some of the names that rank higher than Hogan on that list, even though I like a lot of them better than Hogan, it still makes my blood boil.

The WWE is truly a toxic organization that they should give the man who built their company such a short shrift. Even if it really was voted on by just WWE superstars, the WWE is responsible for poisoning the locker room against Hogan then. All this talk about locker room respect is such frackin' BS.

 

[Dr. Evil]

You don't have to dumb things down for kids to enjoy it. Hell, the jokes on iCarly and Spongebob often are more well written.

It may be considered immature by some on this thread, but if someone from the WWE lets out a giant fart on National TV, I will laugh my ass off. Hell, it doesn't have to be WWE for me to laugh at someone farting on TV or in a movie.

And I'm almost 30.

 

[Metallo]

When I look at some of the names that rank higher than Hogan on that list, even though I like a lot of them better than Hogan, it still makes my blood boil.

The WWE is truly a toxic organization that they should give the man who built their company such a short shrift. Even if it really was voted on by just WWE superstars, the WWE is responsible for poisoning the locker room against Hogan then. All this talk about locker room respect is such frackin' BS.

We all know the locker room didn't have final say on it though. Sure they may have voted but we know which man made the decisions. I wouldn't be shocked if Vince made the call to rank Hogan so low to marginalize him and send a message.

WWE basically see themselves as the keepers of the history of the business in America and they often push the idea that their view of history is the only one that counts and they'll rewrite it as they see fit.

And really since theres no one on any level to challenge it its kind of true. The rest of the world doesn't give enough of a crap so they take WWE's word for it on how things "are."

We talk about conditioning and their current presentation of Hogan is a prime example. They say it and the people in their audience who don't know any better will believe it.

Hogans a d*** but him not in the top 20 is ridiculous. I think JR even said he disagreed with that. When looking at the whole package there's no kind of way they can rank HHH higher than Hogan and have it be taken seriously. But they tried.

Goes back to what I was saying. How can anybody get a "fair" opportunity there when they take arguably the biggest star they ever had, arguably the biggest star of all time, and throw him under the bus?

It is the way Vince says it is. People don't get opportunities there because they deserve them or not. Doesn't work that way.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Vince is only nice to people if they make money for him (John Cena) or give the company mainstream publicity (The Rock and to a lesser degree, Stone Cold Steve Austin)

Speaking of which, I do hope that the Rock is in The Expendables 2. I like that he's now starting to get back into action.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah it sounds like this is going to be the definitive Austin dvd. It'll be a must buy for me just like the Hart/Michaels dvd and the Million Dollar Man dvd.

I'm pretty behind on some stuff right now. Haven't been sure if I want the new Cage match dvd or the Top Stars of the 2000's dvd.

Is the Million Dollar Man DVD confirmed?

I've been thinking of getting the cage match DVD, the older stuff on it is pretty great.

Super Cena vs Super Shredder? Yeah Vince would totally book that. Funny thing is that its not any more far fetched than some of the other gimmicks of the early 90's...including some of Nash's

I've seen him as Vinnie Vegas but this is the first pic I've seen of Nash as Oz.

- Kevin Nash is expected to be at this coming Monday's RAW and will be a regular character on WWE TV going forward. As teased on Monday's RAW, the plans are indeed for Nash to face CM Punk in the ring. The idea behind Punk and Nash feuding is to give Punk a top name that would put him over.

Regarding their segment on Monday's RAW, the feeling backstage was that Punk got the better of Nash and Nash's comebacks were too inside and outdated compared to Punk's.

Since Nash didn't get that big of a reaction when he came out on RAW, there was talk that they need to do a better job of explaining on TV to the current generation of fans who Nash is.

Source: PWInsider

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/315734291.php

I still don't get what Nash said that was too insider. But the audience knew who he was at the Rumble so all they need to do next week is show a vid on him that incorporates his NWO stuff and how it changed the business, and it'll set him up to be the big name job WWE want for Punk.....what the match will be like is another matter altogether.

It seemed clear Punk vs Nash would happen but I wasn't 100% sure until this weeks Raw as I wasn't sure if Nash was up for a match or if he'd just be revealed as part of a bigger conspiracy, but I think long term Nash will just be Triple H's enforcer.

When I look at some of the names that rank higher than Hogan on that list, even though I like a lot of them better than Hogan, it still makes my blood boil.

The WWE is truly a toxic organization that they should give the man who built their company such a short shrift. Even if it really was voted on by just WWE superstars, the WWE is responsible for poisoning the locker room against Hogan then. All this talk about locker room respect is such frackin' BS.

In fairness it's not surprising that most hate him anyway, as he's the most selfish, egotistical, lying, self promoting *****e in the industry.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Dr. Evil]

Plus Vince will probably blacklist any active wrestler who tries to join a union.

Regarding Vince: The same can be said about Dana White, the President of the UFC. However, unlike the WWE, the UFC is not a declining company, as a matter of fact the UFC recently signed a major TV deal with the Fox Network, which I expect will lead to harsh criticism from Bill O'Reilly for calling UFC "too violent and graphic to be on Network TV" which will result in Dana White calling him a senile old bastard.

 

[PyroChamber]

 

[Metallo]

Is the Million Dollar Man DVD confirmed?

I read that Ted had recorded stuff for the documentary portion and its supposed to be out at the end of the year so I think its a lock.

Its a must buy for me. TMMD was by far one of the best villains of the 80's Right up there with Piper and Flair as far as I'm concerned. Brilliant gimmick by Vince and an even more brilliant performer.

I've been thinking of getting the cage match DVD, the older stuff on it is pretty great.

My only problem is I fear i may already own a lot of those cage matches on dvd. I really need to go through the match listing to see if its worth it.

I've seen him as Vinnie Vegas but this is the first pic I've seen of Nash as Oz.

Early 90's WCW was as bad as early 90's WWF. I just don't know what they were thinking. Nash really DOES owe WWF for his first taste of true stardom because if he had stayed in WCW he never would have gotten were he did.

I still don't get what Nash said that was too insider. But the audience knew who he was at the Rumble so all they need to do next week is show a vid on him that incorporates his NWO stuff and how it changed the business, and it'll set him up to be the big name job WWE want for Punk.....what the match will be like is another matter altogether.

I didn't really pick up any insider stuff but man when he was bragging about the NWO it really did sound like the tired ramblings of an old man thinking back to his ancient faded glory. I think I even said so that very night on the thread. I half expected Nash to waive his cane and say "BACK IN MY DAY...!"

Punk was cutting edge that night and Nash sounded SO stale. I think they should have tried to educate people on Nash that night during the show. Maybe do some highlight spots between segments to lead up to his return that night. I mean most of the kids at Raw that night weren't even alive when the NWO formed.

It seemed clear Punk vs Nash would happen but I wasn't 100% sure until this weeks Raw as I wasn't sure if Nash was up for a match or if he'd just be revealed as part of a bigger conspiracy, but I think long term Nash will just be Triple H's enforcer.

I think he needs to just be a bodyguard/muscle. The Rumble protected him and kept from showing how worn down he is. Punks a great wrestler but I don't envy him having to carry a 50 plus year old seven footer with sawdust for knees.

If they did have a match it could only be one or maybe two. Punk doesn't need to waste to much time on Nash. he needs to steadily move forward and keep his momentum on his quest for the truth and to get back to the title eventually. He needs to go over Nash in a BIG WAY fairly soon. Otherwise its WWE Impact.

In fairness it's not surprising that most hate him anyway, as he's the most selfish, egotistical, lying, self promoting *****e in the industry.

I think with the older guys who were around to experience Hogans politicking firsthand thats true but to the younger guys they probably still see him as fans to a degree. But of course some of those younger guys became fans or wanted to get into the business because of guys like Hart and Michaels because its clear many strive to be what they were instead of trying to be the next Hogan...well...except for Cena. Older stars like Booker and Regal probably have legit gripes with Hogan. The only guy there now under 35 who can have a legitimate dislike of Hogan is Randy Orton...and rightly so. He had to job too the old bastard and that didn't help him at all.

I do think HHH has probably done his fair share of badmouthing of Hogan. They are cut from the same cloth afterall. Difference is at the end of the day WWE HHH is probably more concerned with looking out for the company while Hogan was always concerned with looking out for himself first.

Good God! I...I just filled the cup.

Damn they look great. ESPECIALLY Beth. I'd enjoy them hurting me.

Really was great to put these two together.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Good God! I...I just filled the cup.

Damn they look great. ESPECIALLY Beth. I'd enjoy them hurting me.

Really was great to put these two together.

Those outfits and poses suck

 

[Metallo]

Those outfits and poses suck

You had to quote me to say all that?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Knowing the WWE, Natalya will job to the Disease Twins.

 

[Metallo]

Knowing the WWE, Natalya will job to the Disease Twins.

Its sad that theres nobody there to challenge the Two Woman Power Trip.



Jeremiah Riggs on experience with WWE's FCW
» Reported by Adam Martin of Wrestleview.com
» On August 19, 2011 at 12:46 pm

Brian Fritz sent this in:

http://betweentheropes.com/284/episode-7-jeremiah-riggs/

Jeremiah Riggs has hopes to earn a WWE contract on Tough Enough. He came up short but still left quite the impression. I spoke with Riggs about being on the show and what he took from the experience, being on other reality shows, his experience with FCW, if he still hopes to have a wrestling career, if he has been working out in the ring to improve and more.

[YT]I8OymGbOnK4[/YT]

 

[Dr. Evil]

The Bella Twins aren't even good looking.

 

[Metallo]

The Bella Twins aren't even good looking.

I think they look good its just that they are annoying as hell and they don't have very engaging personalities...even as heels When they talk they don't sound very clever.

At least the Bellas aren't nails on a chalkboard annoying like Laycool. They are just good for nothing except being concubines for whatever C list guest host WWE was able to get for Raw.

 

[PyroChamber]

I think they look good its just that they are annoying as hell and they don't have very engaging personalities...even as heels When they talk they don't sound very clever.

Even their voices lack personality.

 

[BlackLantern]

At least it's not as bad as those factoids or how they keep calling themselves the ''longest running weekly episodic show'' or something.

But it is.....the other ones are spin but raw has that title

 

[Metallo]

But it is.....the other ones are spin but raw has that title

its a half truth at best. It depends on how you look at it. What do they mean by longest running? On from start to finish or most episodes? When they say episodic I assume they mean most episodes.

Raw MIGHT have more episodes but the Simpsons has been on for over 20 years.

Plus Raw is on almost every week of the year so that gives them advantage as far as number of episodes.

And thats just for scripted television of course.

What about shows like Meet the Press or Face The Nation. They've been on for like 50 plus years with new episodes every week.

Meet The Press isn't scripted but it is a weekly episodic program

WWE is very careful with their wording on this "claim" to try to make a specific impression. I think they also use the loophole of being on cable. If you stacked your average soap opera up against Raw it makes the claim look even weaker. Some have aired every day since the 1950's.

Raw can do what it does because they keep costs down. Its expensive but not nearly as expensive to produce as weekly stripped tv out of Hollywood. No union has that effect.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I wonder how Vince feels when a WWE superstar such as the Rock is a member of the Screen Actors Guild. He would have to be a member of SAG to work for a major studio correct?

Not sure if Austin is a SAG member though because he's done less studio films than the Rock.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

just seen stings new shirt they really need to drop this joker crap it was boring 2 weeks in

It's a f'n joke

He could of went for a crazy clown gimmick without ripping TDK Joker off.

 

[Metallo]

It's a f'n joke

He could of went for a crazy clown gimmick without ripping TDK Joker off.

YEAH! Not to mention ripping off that Crow thing! That didn't work at all!

Darn wrestling ripping off movies. Thats never been done before!