IDW Transformers Thread

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nope, I have read very little of anything Tranformers. I have a couple old Marvel minis with Spider-Man in them and some Top Cow, that's it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, if you want to get into TF comics, IDW's producing some great stuff. I would actually recommend waiting for the trade of Megatron: Origin to start off. It's got familiar characters to anyone who watched the show (Megatron, Starscream, various Autobots, Sentinel Prime, etc.), but it places them in new and really intriguing contexts. Megatron's one-note villainy takes on a lot of new dimensions in Origin and you almost start to sympathize with him. It's a great story.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

How was the Marvel run? Top Cow run? Any other publishers for Transformers comics?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know, I haven't read much of any other runs. I did read some Dreamwave TF comics, but I hated them.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Sounds good.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

How was the Marvel run? Top Cow run? Any other publishers for Transformers comics?

Here is a list of Transformers comic book continities and their publishers.I'm not counting any of the cross overs with other publishers because these were limited serries story arc's that had no effect on the mainstream stories.Nor am I counting any of the publishers that got the rights to do Transformers comics but failed to produce a single issue.

Generation 1, Marvel U.S.
Generation 1, Marvel U.K.
Generation 2, Marvel U.S.
Generation 1, Armada/Energon,Dreamwave Productions
Generation 1, Beast Wars IDW Publishing
Generation 1, Blackthorne Publishing
Convention Comics & Official Transformers Collectors Club Newsletter Comics
Armada ,Panini Comics U.K.
Titan Magazines U.K. ,reprinting some of IDW's Beastwars and Movie prequils with at least 10 pages of new material.

Top Cow never had the rights to do Transformers comics.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Dreamwave, Top Cow, whatever.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Dreamwave, Top Cow, whatever.

LOL But to answer your original question most of those publishers did a pretty good job half of the time.The marvel U.K. books were great for the most part and it's U.S. counterpart wasnt bad ether...but sometimes the stories were geared twards children.Dreamwave had some pretty good stories to but had more then their shair of continuity issues.IDW sofar is going strong.....their Beast Wars story is going great right now and most of the other books have been great read's.Some times the art leaves somthing to be desired but as long as the story is good I injoy them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dreamwave seemed to be tripping over itself to integrate Japanese TF continuity, which always struck me as lame. The bit where Ultra Magnus is revealed to be Optimus' brother and sheds his "outer shell," revealing himself to be basically a white clone of Optimus, was one of the most stupid and unnecessary developments I've ever seen in comics.

 

[Anubis]

I thought it was kinda cool.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Then I no longer like you.

 

[Anubis]

But what about our mutual love of the Mighty Thor? Does that not count for something?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No. It's okay, though. I didn't like you that much to begin with.

 

[Anubis]

Well, enemies it is fat ass.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Again with the ass obsession. You should talk to someone about that.

 

[Anubis]

Sure thing bubble gut.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Dreamwave seemed to be tripping over itself to integrate Japanese TF continuity, which always struck me as lame. The bit where Ultra Magnus is revealed to be Optimus' brother and sheds his "outer shell," revealing himself to be basically a white clone of Optimus, was one of the most stupid and unnecessary developments I've ever seen in comics.

While I agree it was handled wrong it was what fans had been asking for ever since the first Ultra Magnus toy was released.Now aside from the introduction of Bumper I cant remember any other exsample of DW trying to integrate Japanese TF continuity into its own.Unless your refering to the little refrances to Japan only characters into the past of Cybertron ,like Di-Atlas, but that was just useing the characters not the Japanese continuity.

 

[El Bastardo]

Devastation #2 was either incredibly questionable or incredibly awesome. I'm not entirely sure yet.

And Beast Wars: The Ascending #2 did the unexpected when it revealed who the "big bad" is going to be. Neat little ending, too. But if this is going to be a four issue mini like The Gathering was, then Furman needs to hurry up.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

While I agree it was handled wrong it was what fans had been asking for ever since the first Ultra Magnus toy was released.Now aside from the introduction of Bumper I cant remember any other exsample of DW trying to integrate Japanese TF continuity into its own.Unless your refering to the little refrances to Japan only characters into the past of Cybertron ,like Di-Atlas, but that was just useing the characters not the Japanese continuity.

The fans kind of suck, then. Why would anyone want Ultra Magnus to be just a white Optimus clone?

I'm really enjoying the Cybertronian cop/bounty hunter angle Furman is currently using.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The fans kind of suck, then. Why would anyone want Ultra Magnus to be just a white Optimus clone?

I'm really enjoying the Cybertronian cop/bounty hunter angle Furman is currently using.

It wasnt so much that the fans wanted a white clone of Prime.....they just wanted some kind of explaination as to why his front cab looked like a white Prime.It was compleatly ignored in every other continuity that had come before Dreamwaves......they didnt even bother to add any mention of it in his Transformers Universe bio.What the fans really wanted was just a offical in story answer as to why Ultra Magnus looked 100% like a white Prime with out his trailer.And now that we have it we're all complaining about it.I guess what they say is true.....
"Be carefull what you wish for.....you just may get it"

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I never wished for that. I figured parts of his trailer slid up and over the parts that make up his cab when he transformed, since you can clearly see that he's mostly white with blue stacked on top and red stacked on top of the blue. Granted, I can't trace exactly what goes where because the original TF series art was never so well executed that every part actually went somewhere when they transformed, but I'm sure a decent artist could devise a way for that to work.

Do these same fans wonder why Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker are identical except for their paint jobs, or was Ultra Magnus somehow the only one they cared about because he's similar to Prime?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I never wished for that. I figured parts of his trailer slid up and over the parts that make up his cab when he transformed, since you can clearly see that he's mostly white with blue stacked on top and red stacked on top of the blue. Granted, I can't trace exactly what goes where because the original TF series art was never so well executed that every part actually went somewhere when they transformed, but I'm sure a decent artist could devise a way for that to work.

Do these same fans wonder why Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker are identical except for their paint jobs, or was Ultra Magnus somehow the only one they cared about because he's similar to Prime?

That ones a little of both......althou I have seen a few debates on why the 3 seekers looked the same many have dismised it saying "hey it was the first year" and what can you expect... Magnus was 3 rd year and I guess they were expecting better by then after all the 2nd season toys that used the same molds as the first year at least sported slitly different heads or modifiyed bodys at least in the toon.[the conehead seekers,Redalert,Hoist,Smokescrean etc] there have been more speculation as to why the generic seeker's that would show up in season 1 on earth looked so simular......also the 3 different color ones that were showen on Cybertron....one of witch Spawned the character of Sunstorm, a clone os Starscream that was first a e-hobby character re-paint of a seeker mold and then a character in the Dreamwave comics.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Eh, whatever, Magnus isn't a white Prime anymore, which is all that really matters to me.

 

[El Bastardo]

That's some pretty lame stuff.

And I agree with Corp. What Furman's currently doing with Ultra Magnus is cool.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

That's some pretty lame stuff.

And I agree with Corp. What Furman's currently doing with Ultra Magnus is cool.

It may have been lame but thats not my fault Thats what happen's when a issue is ignored for almost 20 years and then some bad writters [Pat Lee] gets the idea to answer the old questions that fans have had all those years.