IESB: Welling out of the running for JLA Superman

[AgentPat]

I think it is pretty much a 98% chance that tom welling is not going to be superman for the jla,

the smallville producers would probably not let him leave and miss like 3-5 episodes of the show since he is the central character of the show.

His contract is with Warner Bros. TV, not G&M or Tolin Robbins. Just sayin'.

Also there has been many reports that tom never wants to be superman and wear the suit and all that over the years.

Do you believe everything you read? Try finding ONE interview or article with Welling where he says that in reference to a FILM. It's all BS, Webhead. The only thing he has been quoted as saying is that he wouldn't be interested in doing a remake, which is ironic considering the three films that he HAS done are all... remakes. LOL (It was an old interview. Who knows how he feels now?)

I think Welling might end up playing Supes....Don't like it, but who knows what will happen. The rumor mill on this movie has been crazy.

Yes, it has been. The rumors are leaning (again) in Welling's favor, which makes me happy, but I'm remaining cautiously optimistic.

On an unrelated note, does anyone know why Justice Bringer was banned?

Nope. No clue.[/sarcasm]

hopefully we will know tomorrow or either next week.

I'm guessing next week sometime. Should make for fun times.

I think Welling could certainly pull of Superman. Of course I wouldn't mind seeing Routh in the role either but Superman is Superman. At this point I am resigned to the fact that Superman: Man of Steel is not going to happen as a continuation of Returns.

Always the level head.

 

[Wally West]

I think, if at all possible WB will give the role to Welling. I don't care if it's Routh or Welling, I'm fine with either choice...but if they don't cast either of the two actors, I feel bad for the poor sob who steps into the role.

 

[RakuMon]

Do you believe everything you read? Try finding ONE interview or article with Welling where he says that in reference to a FILM. It's all BS, Webhead. The only thing he has been quoted as saying is that he wouldn't be interested in doing a remake, which is ironic considering the three films that he HAS done are all... remakes. LOL (It was an old interview. Who knows how he feels now?)

Which might be why he didn't do Superman Returns. Ba-dum-dum.

And for all the people who still believe Welling never wanted to wear the suit, I wish they'd recall that he actually met with Ratner and McG about doing a Superman movie. There were even rumors he had a screen test in the suit (what I wouldn't pay to see that footage leaked onto the internets!). Remember in Smallville's third season, when Welling out of the blue showed up for a few eppys with a brand new haircut? Yeah, I wonder why that was.

 

[Manosman]

the reason i dont want welling is basically he doesnt look like superman to me, hes ok as ck in a tv show, but this is a movie with potential to reach a far braoder audience than a tv show. routh looks a bit better and i think they should give him another chance since he wasnt bad in the part, it was just the movie he was in, sr was enjoyable because its a superman movie, not what i wouldve done with the character, anyways another reason why i dont want welling is because sv has totally screwed with all the superman mythos that i dont want a jl movie superman to have any tie whatsoever with sv,just for that i want routh and no welling.

 

[Wally West]

I think, if Welling does get the role, that any connection to the smallville TV show should be ignored. They shoudn't tie it in or out with that continuity. That way the smallville fans can connect Superman to Smallville if they want, and the anti-smallville faction can pretend smallville never existed.

 

[Wally West]

the reason i dont want welling is basically he doesnt look like superman to me, hes ok as ck in a tv show, but this is a movie with potential to reach a far braoder audience than a tv show. routh looks a bit better and i think they should give him another chance since he wasnt bad in the part, it was just the movie he was in, sr was enjoyable because its a superman movie, not what i wouldve done with the character, anyways another reason why i dont want welling is because sv has totally screwed with all the superman mythos that i dont want a jl movie superman to have any tie whatsoever with sv,just for that i want routh and no welling.

Television reaches a bigger audience than a theatrical release...

 

[Scarlet Spider]

And for all the people who still believe Welling never wanted to wear the suit, I wish they'd recall that he actually met with Ratner and McG about doing a Superman movie.

Ratner also said in an interview, when asked about Welling being cast as Superman in the new film, he responded with "I think Chris Tucker has a better chance."

 

[StorminNorman]

Television reaches a bigger audience than a theatrical release...

The CW doesn't.

 

[Wally West]

The CW doesn't.

You've got me there. but still for the most part tv reaches a wider auience./p>

 

[Manosman]

yes if you have a tv series that has a show weekly, but for the casual audience they are more likely to see a movie than watch a tv show, so yes more people have probably seen a sv show in their life than seen sr, but it doesnt mean that they watch sv every week, especially when its on the cw, maybe if its abc, nbc, cbs, fox, but even then with a lot of people having cabel now i only watch these channels for sports really, but thats just me.

 

[Billy Batson]

I wish people would stop bashing Routh. Bash Singer if you have to, (although his heart was in the right place, paying his respects to Christopher Reeve and the previous films). Routh wasn't just trying to play Superman, he had to play Christopher Reeve playing Superman, that's not easy, and he did a good job.

What?
Dude was just lazy.

Television reaches a bigger audience than a theatrical release...

The CW doesn't.

Smallville's the number one rated show on the CW.

 

[Wally West]

What?
Dude was just lazy.





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yeah...maybe. but it's one thing to try to become a character on screen. It's alot harder to become another actor becoming that character.

 

[Billy Batson]

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yeah...maybe.It's one thing to try to become a character. It's another to try to be another actor becoming that character.

I have said this many times before.
Routh would have been okay for a Christopher Reeve biography.
Routh came off like a softer version of Reeve.
He simply was not manly enough IMHO.

 

[Superman_]

As much as I liked Brandon Routh's Superman I think Tom Welling would be fine as Superman as well. However SV's history would not be fine as a back story for a movie anymore and that is my problem with wanting Welling. I mean I would love to see him play Superman but not if that mean they use SV as a background story as well. IMO SV has messed up to many things dealing with Clark's time and SV that would at least take a season or 2 to fix (not including season 7). And the main problem was the producers of SV saying it is not their problem to fix all of that all they have to do is tell his past history. Now if Welling does become Superman then that does become their problem (only if they use SV as background).

 

[dnno1]

As much as I liked Brandon Routh's Superman I think Tom Welling would be fine as Superman as well. However SV's history would not be fine as a back story for a movie anymore and that is my problem with wanting Welling. I mean I would love to see him play Superman but not if that mean they use SV as a background story as well. IMO SV has messed up to many things dealing with Clark's time and SV that would at least take a season or 2 to fix (not including season 7). And the main problem was the producers of SV saying it is not their problem to fix all of that all they have to do is tell his past history. Now if Welling does become Superman then that does become their problem (only if they use SV as background).

I thought this film was about the Justice League. That has very little to do with the personal life of Clark Kent and Smallville.

 

[Superman_]

I thought this film was about the Justice League. That has very little to do with the personal life of Clark Kent and Smallville.

but its suppose to lead off to a new solo movie.

 

[Maze]

and there will a different Martian Manhunter apparently.

Flash i presume will not be related to the smallville one.

that the movie is related or not to smallville , people will notice the inconcistencies.

Welling is a bad idea.

 

[Spirited Away]

Also, when this film comes out, Smallville Season 8 will have just wrapped and the series will be over.

But if they do cast Welling, I'm pretty certain they'd cast Aaron Ashmore and Erica Durance too, if the script needed them. Michael Rosenbaum is a must too.

As the film is nothing to do with Lois and Jimmy, I doubt it matters who they cast. Why not just tie it in with Smallville, if you're using Tom Welling [and Michael Rosenbaum] anyway?

But that's if Welling is cast, which is unlikely I think (despite making the most sense, after Routh).

 

[dnno1]

but its suppose to lead off to a new solo movie.

What does that have to do with the Smallvilleverse?

 

[Billy Batson]

People! Tom Welling in a movie does not mean the film will be a continuation of Smallville.
I agree whole-heartedly SV created major discrepancies to the mythology.
Some elements of the series could translate very well to the big screen, just weed out the material that is considered canon.
The key is to treat the film as its own entity; Superboy comics’ mythology has never been cohesive to Superman’s mythology.
Creating a film with Welling would be in alignment with the history of the comics.

 

[Superman_]

What does that have to do with the Smallvilleverse?

Because it is going to be very hard for people to get or understand when a new solo Superman movie comes out that it has nothing to do with SV if you use Welling. He may be the right choice (well thats at least what I think) but if you cast Welling I also think you have ti bring the history of SV with him I mean you would have to bring Lex, Lois and Jimmy and if Chloe doesn't die (although I pray everyday that she does) you have to explain or bring her over as well depending on if SV (well at least Welling's run on the show) ends after S7. But if you bring over the main Cast for Superman (Lois, Jimmy, Lex) your going to have explain and wrap up alot of things with them. For example and a big huge problem why Lois and them don't know Clark is Superman after seeing him with out his glasses for so long. And if you don't use the cast of SV people will wonder whats going on. Thats the problem in casting Welling as well as if they cast Routh because if you cast them you are carrying over their past history for the most part.

 

[Superman_]

People! Tom Welling in a movie does not mean the film will be a continuation of Smallville.
I agree whole-heartedly SV created major discrepancies to the mythology.
Some elements of the series could translate very well to the big screen, just weed out the material that is considered canon.
The key is to treat the film as its own entity; Superboy comics’ mythology has never been cohesive to Superman’s mythology.
Creating a film with Welling would be in alignment with the history of the comics.

I agree with what you say you can pick and chose what to take from SV but then you run into the problem of what if the rest of the cast says no. Then you will have to rebuild from the ground up which isn't a problem if they went with some one else but could be a problem in the general publics eyes.

 

[dnno1]

Because it is going to be very hard for people to get or understand when a new solo Superman movie comes out that it has nothing to do with SV if you use Welling. He may be the right choice (well thats at least what I think) but if you cast Welling I also think you have ti bring the history of SV with him I mean you would have to bring Lex, Lois and Jimmy and if Chloe doesn't die (although I pray everyday that she does) you have to explain or bring her over as well depending on if SV (well at least Welling's run on the show) ends after S7. But if you bring over the main Cast for Superman (Lois, Jimmy, Lex) your going to have explain and wrap up alot of things with them. For example and a big huge problem why Lois and them don't know Clark is Superman after seeing him with out his glasses for so long. And if you don't use the cast of SV people will wonder whats going on. Thats the problem in casting Welling as well as if they cast Routh because if you cast them you are carrying over their past history for the most part.

Only 5 million or so people watch "Smallville". There will need to be about 4 times that many people for a Superman film to be successful. What is there to be difficult to understand for the 15 or so million people who haven't seen "Smallville"?

 

[Superman_]

Only 5 million or so people watch "Smallville". There will need to be about 4 times that many people for a Superman film to be successful. What is there to be difficult to understand for the 15 or so million people who haven't seen "Smallville"?

People watch SV maybe not on Thursday night but you have TIVO which isn't counted then you have the DVD's which some people just wait for (I know I do that with My Name is Earl) and then you have the reruns on the Family channel people watch. More people watch the show then what is counted for. Let me put it another way if Routh was cast in a restart of Superman people would wonder where's the kid, where is the old Lois, where is the other Lex. That is how I think people would view a reboot of Superman staring TW. I am not saying he is a bad choice because I would love to see him get the role and do a reboot. But if the reboot means we would have SV the movie then that is something I personally don't' want because I feel SV has mess to many things up.

 

[Nightwing1977]

http://singerssupermansucks.blogspot.com/

I can't help, but laugh at that site. Some people need a life to make up something like this. Sometime when you hate something, it can reach the point of becoming an unhealthy obsession like that site instead of focusing something more important in your life instead of that. Even if I'm not happy with certain things (like Routh not in JLA & Welling isn't), I ain't going to make a site & claim everything suck and keep it running for years. I'm not a big fan of Welling, since I think his acting is wooden & he doesn't has the Superman look. More like a model, which he was before he did SV. I don't remeber Superman should look like a model.

Anyway, I just hope Miller do the right thing & pick someone who be Superman. Not because someone is a big popular name. That like picking Denise Richards for WW & she is popular despite being a terrible actress.

Oh, I also can't help but laugh at hearing some who say they will not see JLA if Welling isn't playing Superman. Doesn't that make one a Welling fan & not Superman fan? If you're a Superman fan, you will see JLA even if the guy you want isn't playing Supes. Even if I don't like Welling for the role, it not going to make me not see JLA.