IESB: Welling out of the running for JLA Superman

On a side note. Their has been some new tinkering to Clark/Superman's origin and early life in the comics. And it has been kinda of based on Smallville. For example they retconned that Lex did live in Smallville as a kid and knew Clark. Also, DC has purchased the rights to the Chloe character. Which means she could possibly be added to the comics soon.
 
On a side note. Their has been some new tinkering to Clark/Superman's origin and early life in the comics. And it has been kinda of based on Smallville. For example they retconned that Lex did live in Smallville as a kid and knew Clark. Also, DC has purchased the rights to the Chloe character. Which means she could possibly be added to the comics soon.
That part is not new that was there from Silver Age Superman (pre-crisis) where Lex and Superboy use to be good friends till Lex blamed Superboy for his hair loss. Didio is hell bent on bringing DC back to the silver age. Thats why you have seen changes in Wonder Woman and Batman as well as the JLA.
 
That part is not new that was there from Silver Age Superman (pre-crisis) where Lex and Superboy use to be good friends till Lex blamed Superboy for his hair loss. Didio is hell bent on bringing DC back to the silver age. Thats why you have seen changes in Wonder Woman and Batman as well as the JLA.

Yep, I know. But, I think the success of Smallville did help with bringing him back in. I have a lot of silver age books. I am waiting for them to bring Clark/Superboys trap door secret exit from the Kent home. ;)
 
Only 5 million or so people watch "Smallville". There will need to be about 4 times that many people for a Superman film to be successful. What is there to be difficult to understand for the 15 or so million people who haven't seen "Smallville"?
I think the "5 million people per week" argument doesn't hold as much water as people think it does. First off, it's not the same 5 million people every week. There's an incredibly high attrition rate on network television; people come and go with varying amounts of interest. Secondly, those weekly numbers are just in the US. What about all of the other countries in the world that syndicate SV, or the people that eventually see the show through home video because it's not available where they live?

One poster upthread suggested that more people have seen SV than SR. At this point - given the fact the show is now entering its seventh year in the public eye - I have to agree.

...I'm not a big fan of Welling, since I think his acting is wooden & he doesn't has the Superman look. More like a model, which he was before he did SV. I don't remember Superman should look like a model. ;)
It's all a matter of preference, but I believe both Reeve *and* Routh were models before becoming actors. Just sayin'.

Anyway, I just hope Miller do the right thing & pick someone who be Superman. Not because someone is a big popular name. That like picking Denise Richards for WW & she is popular despite being a terrible actress. :p
Has Denise Richards ever played Diana Prince? Does she have a legion of fans behind her who see her *as* Wonder Woman? 'Cause if she does, Warners might want to consider her. Popularity lists like these are hard for Warner Bros. to ignore. It's easy money, and it goes directly into their pockets. Hollywood is a business after all. That doesn't make it "right," but it is what it is.

Warner's rumored approach with JL is to give fans what they've been asking for: more action, more eye candy, fealty to the comics, and a popular cast. I'm keeping an open mind they'll be able to deliver the goods, because it's a win win situation if they can. Pleasing the general public with a popular film WILL make them a lot of coin.

Oh, I also can't help but laugh at hearing some who say they will not see JLA if Welling isn't playing Superman. Doesn't that make one a Welling fan & not Superman fan?
I'd say yes, if not just a SV fan. But I don't think Warners will lose much coin from people not wanting to see the pic because of who *isn't* cast, though they might lose business based on who IS. I've seen a few people here say they wouldn't bother if Welling were cast as Supes, and I personally have no interest in seeing the pic if Routh is cast, so it's going to be an interesting day when the casting IS announced. And that's just Superman casting. Have you been to BOF? LOL :ninja:
 
I think the "5 million people per week" argument doesn't hold as much water as people think it does. First off, it's not the same 5 million people every week. There's an incredibly high attrition rate on network television; people come and go with varying amounts of interest. Secondly, those weekly numbers are just in the US. What about all of the other countries in the world that syndicate SV, or the people that eventually see the show through home video because it's not available where they live?

:up: AgentPat you're dead-on, SV is huge in South America also Smallville numbers would be much larger on a bigger network.
 
I'm not a big fan of Welling, since I think his acting is wooden & he doesn't has the Superman look. More like a model, which he was before he did SV. I don't remeber Superman should look like a model. ;)

It's all a matter of preference, but I believe both Reeve *and* Routh were models before becoming actors. Just sayin'.

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Me too. It would make me a little more interested in it.

Routh helps it really does... WB would be foolish to start from scratch... I hope to God they don't... but it really doesn't make sense having Routh if Bale is out... people are just going to be wondering why Bale isn't in this. This movie won't even be on my top five comic book movies to see without Routh.
 
Well according to rumors we are back were we were in late 04 were the battle is once again between Routh and Welling. Personally I don't care who gets the role because I enjoyed both work and think both are a great Superman.
 
Yep, I know. But, I think the success of Smallville did help with bringing him back in. I have a lot of silver age books. I am waiting for them to bring Clark/Superboys trap door secret exit from the Kent home. ;)
See Justice League of America #0
 
People watch SV maybe not on Thursday night but you have TIVO which isn't counted then you have the DVD's which some people just wait for (I know I do that with My Name is Earl) and then you have the reruns on the Family channel people watch. More people watch the show then what is counted for. Let me put it another way if Routh was cast in a restart of Superman people would wonder where's the kid, where is the old Lois, where is the other Lex. That is how I think people would view a reboot of Superman staring TW. I am not saying he is a bad choice because I would love to see him get the role and do a reboot. But if the reboot means we would have SV the movie then that is something I personally don't' want because I feel SV has mess to many things up.

Do you happen to have that number? How can you be sure that that number does not include the same people who watched the show that same night? That number is not trackable so we can't be sure how many of those so called unaccounted for fans are. Just because Tom Welling could be the next Superman in the film franchise doesn't mean that it has to follow the "Smallville" continuum (unless David Goyer is attached to the project).
 
One poster upthread suggested that more people have seen SV than SR. At this point - given the fact the show is now entering its seventh year in the public eye - I have to agree.

It doesn't mean it will have the same effect on the movie thought. Movie & tv rating are different. Beside, you said that poster suggested it. That is just that poster's opinion & what that he/she think. Not to mention tv show that run for 7 seasons tell more stories compare to one movie, which doesn't count. IMO, of course.

It's all a matter of preference, but I believe both Reeve *and* Routh were models before becoming actors. Just sayin'.

Yeah, but Welling has more of a supermodel look than those guys. Not Superman material there. ;) And I never heard Reeve was a model too. I only know he did training at Julliard(sp?) before he did acting & that it. No mention of him modeling. Interesting thought. I wonder if George Reeves & Kirk Alyn were model too. Heh!

Has Denise Richards ever played Diana Prince? Does she have a legion of fans behind her who see her *as* Wonder Woman? 'Cause if she does, Warners might want to consider her. Popularity lists like these are hard for Warner Bros. to ignore. It's easy money, and it goes directly into their pockets. Hollywood is a business after all. That doesn't make it "right," but it is what it is.

But the problem is, people want someone because they are popular. I prefer someone to play a role where they can act, not look alone. Reeve is a perfect example of that. Many fans boycott & were hellbent when he was picked to play Supes, since he wasn't popular & not a big name.

And yes it can get them money, but not in a good way with bad acting. That what I'm concern when it come to Hollywood. I wish people look at acting, not just look with bad acting. In the old days, people were cast for their acting & not look first. *sigh*

Warner's rumored approach with JL is to give fans what they've been asking for: more action, more eye candy, fealty to the comics, and a popular cast. I'm keeping an open mind they'll be able to deliver the goods, because it's a win win situation if they can. Pleasing the general public with a popular film WILL make them a lot of coin.

I agree. I expect JLA to have plenty of action, which I love. But I want good story too, otherwise it will be like "Batman & Robin". They should use both some big names & unknown. :)

I'd say yes, if not just a SV fan. But I don't think Warners will lose much coin from people not wanting to see the pic because of who *isn't* cast, though they might lose business based on who IS.

Who know. Time will tell on this. Even if it Routh or Welling, I think business will be about the same. Seeing as it JLA & deal with other heroes beside Supes. But hey, I just want Routh. Thought I will give someone else a chance if it isn't Routh. After all, I'm a fan of Supes & will see him onscreen....again. ;)

I've seen a few people here say they wouldn't bother if Welling were cast as Supes, and I personally have no interest in seeing the pic if Routh is cast, so it's going to be an interesting day when the casting IS announced.

But why if Welling isn't cast, you won't see it? Any Superman fans will see it as long it not some guy who can't act at all. Honestly, I think you should see JLA, even if both Routh or Welling aren't in it. That what Superman fan do, right? Support seeing their hero. I'm not trying to change your opinion or force you to see it if Welling isn't in it at all. I think it just fair any Supes fan to give it a chance no matter who is in the role. Just as long they do their job. :word:

Have you been to BOF? LOL :ninja:

Yep. I check it daily, since I'm a huge fan of Batman as the site. I been checking since it was born around 1998. Boy, I have no life there. :(
 
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POSTED Friday , October 05, 2007 01:48:39 PM
I just got a call that a verbal agreement may have been reached today between WB and Gough and Millar that would allow Welling to make the switch to the big screen. I put in some calls to further confirm it and I'm waiting to hear back. Now this doesn't mean Welling has agreed to anything, but that he isn't being held back from it any longer which in itself is HUGE considering all indications were that Gough was the only problem holding things up.

As usual, I'll keep you all posted...THE WAIT COULD FINALLY BE OVER!! WOO HOO!!

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I just want to know. I don't even really care who it is anymore.
 
I've lost hope in this movie now. I was all for it, but now Welling, Biel is out, Tyrese is GL...this is really not looking good.
 
I just want to know. I don't even really care who it is anymore.

Ditto ..and the whole cast while we're at it.

it's getting on my nerves.:o :cwink:
 
Ditto ..and the whole cast while we're at it.

it's getting on my nerves.:o :cwink:




yeah...it is pretty ridiculous what is going on now with the casting process.

Welling being cast isn't going to excite me anymore thats for sure.
 
Me too..

I think that he is really a poor actor.

But i've seen poor actors shine with great directors /well written parts..

We never know..
 
the reason i dont want welling is basically he doesnt look like superman to me

Yup, on a phsyical level the guy obviously has none of the Superman qualities whatsoever :whatever:. They should go with someone short and blonde.

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Looking at him , physically, i think they can manage to give him an interesting look as Superman .
 
It's his face always that same expression, it's maddening. Anyone know what the latest developments are?
 

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