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[Angamb]

Yes, the final battle was really poor, when you had six x-men with such powers, Logan did more than the rest, when his powers haven't the possibilities of the others.

 

[Theweepeople]

The final battle was the biggest disappointment to me too. I was there, looking at it, but at no moment it made me anxious to see what would happen. Heck, it doesn't present ONE single moment of creative use of powers.

I was wondering why 90% of the mutants in Magneto's army had mutantions that were limited to physical deformities(Weird looking eyes and skin). Only a few brotherhood members used their powers. We got one absurd looking scene at the beginning of the battle where some brotherhood members use their powers by jumping in the air and landing on the ground where the marines are positioned. Besides that the only other scene that an unknown brotherhood member used his power was where Wolverine fights the regeneration arm man.

First, when I saw the X-men getting ready to it, I thought "already? I can't believe this damn movie is gonna end already. Where's the development?"

When I was watching this part all I could think of how delusional Kinberg was to compare the battle scenes of X3 to Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan.

Then, we see Storm spending the whole night to take out Callisto (because she doesn't do anything else), ?"

This has to be one of the most lopsided mutant battles in X3. Storm should have kicked her ass the first time in the movie. The second fight between Storm and Callisto was even more pathetic. The only fight in the X-Men series that was worse was the fight between Storm and Toad.

Wolverine doing the same ol' Logan job,

How did Wolverine take on 20 mutants at the same time? Oh I forgot. 90% of the mutants Magneto hired had useless powers.

Iceman making damn Ice walls and then going all Street Fighter style (seriously, you put a life level on the up corners and it's a 16bit video game battle).

At least Iceman got to fight Pyro. Unfortunately, we don't get to see him do much during the main battle.

Colossus shouldn't be in the movie at all. Not even in the action he has any part. I can't help but notice that the only reason he was there was so the crew could say "see fans? We put Colossus!.

What a complete waste of a character? I don't know what Simon was smoking when he said Colosus role was significantly greater role in X3. He also said Piotr would talk while using his power!!! That one scene of Colosus in X2 had a greater impact on me then all of the scenes combined in X3.

Now clap your hands to our awesomeness!!!". Kitty and Beast still do some nice things, but that's it.

Kitty was okay but, I thought Beast had the worst action scenes in the film. Most of his scenes reminded me of the killer rabbit in Monty Python and the Holy grail.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You guys are all hitting the nail on the head completely, we had Storm, possibly the most powerful mutanta involved other than Jean, and she does **** all all battle, this is someone who controls nature for christ's sake, yet all she does practically all movie is shoot lightening at people (WHICH BTW should have killed said people straight away, or at least one of them).

Iceman vs Pyro was just like Ryu vs Ken from a streetfighter game but with less imagination!!!!!!!!! At least in SF they could use other moves!!!!.

And then there is Magneto who decides to wait until ALL of his army are until throwing the hundreds of METAL cars waiting behind them at his opponents. God what a terrible movie!!!!!

 

[X-Maniac]

You guys are all hitting the nail on the head completely, we had Storm, possibly the most powerful mutanta involved other than Jean, and she does **** all all battle, this is someone who controls nature for christ's sake, yet all she does practically all movie is shoot lightening at people (WHICH BTW should have killed said people straight away, or at least one of them).

Iceman vs Pyro was just like Ryu vs Ken from a streetfighter game but with less imagination!!!!!!!!! At least in SF they could use other moves!!!!.

And then there is Magneto who decides to wait until ALL of his army are until throwing the hundreds of METAL cars waiting behind them at his opponents. God what a terrible movie!!!!!

Well, in fairness, you don’t use the most extreme (or most effective) weapon at the start of a conflict. Otherwise all real-world wars would begin with a nuclear bomb being dropped and that would be that. But that doesn’t happen - conflict does progress in levels as the sides try to assess each others strengths and weaknesses. And Magneto obviously wanted to show there was an army of opposition against the cure, that it wasn’t just him opposing it. He was rallying people to his cause through the movie - and yet he has the power and experience to act solo at any time. Why then does he need a Brotherhood at all if he can do the things he does? By your reasoning, he wouldn’t need or want to bother recruiting anyone to join him. Why bother recruiting an amphibian with a 20ft tongue? Why bother recruiting a metamorph and using stealth infiltrations when he can just crush buildings, smash things to pieces, deflect guns and bullets, wreck military weapons? Why doesn’t he just go round on his own smashing everything that gets in his way in order to take over the world?

*However, yes, Storm was grossly under-used (partly due to the cutting of the flash-flood scene). Iceman did at least create an ice wall that some of the mutants crashed into.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I do not 'love Ratner so much' so cut that crap out for a start!

And I agree it was wrong to cure Rogue and use that stupid youtube line for Juggernaut.... This is where the producers needed to be watching more closely, as Shuler-Donner herself said no X-Men member should take the cure.

Wait, she said that? Huh, turns out she and the other producers might not be completely out of their minds.

Can't help but wonder exactly what the hell they did during the rushed production...

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You guys are all hitting the nail on the head completely, we had Storm, possibly the most powerful mutanta involved other than Jean, and she does **** all all battle, this is someone who controls nature for christ's sake, yet all she does practically all movie is shoot lightening at people (WHICH BTW should have killed said people straight away, or at least one of them).

To put it simply, she's not Wolvie. So, eh.

[quote-AVEITWITHJAMON]
Iceman vs Pyro was just like Ryu vs Ken from a streetfighter game but with less imagination!!!!!!!!! At least in SF they could use other moves!!!!.[/quote]

Yeah, but in SF they don't get glorious one-liners.

I mean, it's supposed to be a be-all-end-all battle and they use a f****n SCHOOL analogy during what should've been a battle to the death. Apparently, bloodthisrty sociopaths can't come up with anything better.

And then there is Magneto who decides to wait until ALL of his army are until throwing the hundreds of METAL cars waiting behind them at his opponents. God what a terrible movie!!!!!

No, no, no. You don't get it. It's EPIC to have the fight ESCALATE. Apparently, throwing cars is the best X3-Mags can dish out, so...

 

[Silvermoth]

Sorry I'm a little late but a few pages back someone suggested who could have played Angel better instead of a younger more emo guy. Well, the first fault was not enough screentime and Ben Foster did the best he could with what he was given but just for a more accurate representation of Angel, I'ld choose Adam Pascal...

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Wait, she said that? Huh, turns out she and the other producers might not be completely out of their minds.

Can't help but wonder exactly what the hell they did during the rushed production...

Donner actually was quite upset with Rogue's ending on the movie.

 

[X-Maniac]

To put it simply, she's not Wolvie. So, eh.

So right....

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Iceman vs Pyro was just like Ryu vs Ken from a streetfighter game but with less imagination!!!!!!!!! At least in SF they could use other moves!!!!.

The problem here was that Pyro's powers hadn't been shown as anything more than flame blasts (aside from the little fire globe in X1) and Iceman's powers weren't shown as much more than ice blasts and an ice wall. So, there was no real set-up for the pair of them to be doing much else aside from directly blasting each other. The movieverse seemed to have ruled out Pyro's comicook fire creatures and Iceman's ice slides or ice formations.

No, no, no. You don't get it. It's EPIC to have the fight ESCALATE. Apparently, throwing cars is the best X3-Mags can dish out, so...

An escalating final battle is good! But the way it all played out on screen was questionable at times. The X-Men had no obvious battle strategies, for instance. With all these super-powered people, it's not easy to create battles that account for every possibility with every mutant power.

Let's say for instance that Magneto had thrown the ignited cars first of all... What then? How would the X-Men have stopped him, how would things have progressed? Don't just bash what we saw, suggest something that is obviously better.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Let's say for instance that Magneto had thrown the ignited cars first of all... What then? How would the X-Men have stopped him, how would things have progressed? Don't just bash what we saw, suggest something that is obviously better.

Throw the obnoxious runt around and have him cut up all the goody two shoes. t:

Either he kills them all of Kitty phases through him and kill him.

Win-win situation.

Oh, and the 'good times' angle. That, too.

 

[ntcrawler]

Sorry I'm a little late but a few pages back someone suggested who could have played Angel better instead of a younger more emo guy. Well, the first fault was not enough screentime and Ben Foster did the best he could with what he was given but just for a more accurate representation of Angel, I'ld choose Adam Pascal...

If it's my vote, I'd rather see a mature, adult Angel. One portrayed as having been a veteran member of the team and well established with the other chars like Beast, instead of this new, emo kid on the block. Not only would it help add a dose of competence to their fighting and combat abilities, but would help fill in a voide and provide balance to some of the relationships.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

If it's my vote, I'd rather see a mature, adult Angel. One portrayed as having been a veteran member of the team and well established with the other chars like Beast, instead of this new, emo kid on the block.

Been saying it from day one that whiny emo Warren was downright idiotic.

Apparently the writers didn't get that even though it's a AU, there should be some SIMILARITIES other than powers.

Go ask movieverse Bobby.

 

[ntcrawler]

You guys are all hitting the nail on the head completely, we had Storm, possibly the most powerful mutanta involved other than Jean, and she does **** all all battle, this is someone who controls nature for christ's sake, yet all she does practically all movie is shoot lightening at people (WHICH BTW should have killed said people straight away, or at least one of them).

Precisely! Wouldn't it be mind-blowing to see a goddess, or a mad goddess vs the wrath of mother nature herself? But alas it didn't happen because with a gleam from his teeth, Wolverine proclaimed: "stay back! Only *I* can save her!" and IIRC Storm just shrugged off and moved away. Bunch of savages they are, but then again it doesn't surprise me considering how they handled the loss of Scott. Only impact it seemed to have on the mansion was one less body for dinner at the table. Betcha that tv Colossus is carrying was probably Scott's :P

Iceman vs Pyro was just like Ryu vs Ken from a streetfighter game but with less imagination!!!!!!!!! At least in SF they could use other moves!!!!.

It would haven been appropriate to have life meters above each character depleting during the "round" until Iceman finally knocks out Pyro, his meter is empty, and a large "K.O.! Fatality!" flash on the screen, followed by Iceman doing a victory dance.

And then there is Magneto who decides to wait until ALL of his army are until throwing the hundreds of METAL cars waiting behind them at his opponents. God what a terrible movie!!!!!

Magneto obviously never read the "if I were an evil overlord" guide. Well it could have been worse. Magneto could have had a loud, maniacal laughter and made those sweeping proclamations about "fools! I will destroy them all!"

 

[ntcrawler]

No, no, no. You don't get it. It's EPIC to have the fight ESCALATE. Apparently, throwing cars is the best X3-Mags can dish out, so...

Yeah, but what a gimmick, to throw flaming cars at your enemies? Magneto's tactical genius must be shown for what it is. That's why I feel it would be so poetic and beautiful to show his flying burning car attack from hell be thwarted expertly by Cyclops who blasts them out of the sky faster than Magneto can launch them in a spine-tingling rendition of an overblown game of shot-put

 

[ntcrawler]

Been saying it from day one that whiny emo Warren was downright idiotic.

Sadly though, it seems to help alot of this new generation of movie viewers to connect. As such, they should have taken things with Warren a step further. The char should have hair following over his face, shown sitting up all night in front of his computer holding up signs in front of a webcam, posting in his BLOG about how life sucks and how he feels he's such a freak.

Apparently the writers didn't get that even though it's a AU, there should be some SIMILARITIES other than powers.

Go ask movieverse Bobby.

This reminds me of a very funny rewrite someone posted a few months ago on the Hype forums. It goes something like this:

Bobby: "Mom!!! There's something wrong with me."
Mother: "No, Bobby. It's not just you. There's something wrong with all of us."

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Betcha that tv Colossus is carrying was probably Scott's :P

rotflmao.

Hell, Logan no doubt took one of Cyke's to go to that forest.

Magneto obviously never read the "if I were an evil overlord" guide. Well it could have been worse. Magneto could have had a loud, maniacal laughter and made those sweeping proclamations about "fools! I will destroy them all!"

At least we would've gotten a genuine/intentional laugh out of it.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Sadly though, it seems to help alot of this new generation of movie viewers to connect. As such, they should have taken things with Warren a step further. The char should have hair following over his face, shown sitting up all night in front of his computer holding up signs in front of a webcam, posting in his BLOG about how life sucks and how he feels he's such a freak.

The Angelic diaries. Oh dear. t:

Deleted scene #5: U-Tubed Angel t:

This reminds me of a very funny rewrite someone posted a few months ago on the Hype forums. It goes something like this:

Bobby: "Mom!!! There's something wrong with me."
Mother: "No, Bobby. It's not just you. There's something wrong with all of us."

rotflmao!!!

 

[ntcrawler]

Let's say for instance that Magneto had thrown the ignited cars first of all... What then? How would the X-Men have stopped him, how would things have progressed? Don't just bash what we saw, suggest something that is obviously better.

[flaming cars hurling at the X-men]

Beast: Storm, would you be so kind as to do something about these dealy flaming projectiles heading for us?

Storm: [shakes] Magneto and his displays of power. Think that's spectacular? Watch this...

I'd say that a giant tidal wave and violent winds would be just what the doctor ordered against a flying cars attack, in the absense of Cyclops expertly blasting them out of the air like a game of extreme shot-put.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Come to think of it, I'm surprised they didn't have Colossus throw Wolvie around and have the runt slice the cars in half.

Would've been another glorious 'OMG SOURCE MATERIAL ROXOR, we're soooo not butchering the x-mythos! Like, totally! FASTBALL SPECIAL!!! Wooohoooo!!!' moment.

 

[gambitfire]

^ Comic book guy says: Best mock interpretation of a modern comic book fanboy ever!

 

[chaseter]

X3 Watch Day 265...movie is still crap.

 

[gambitfire]

Day ? or Number of times you've watched it?

The way you said that i was wondering When did you become Claire Petrelli from Hereos?

Claire: this is attempt number 42.

 

[Loganbabe]

Come to think of it, I'm surprised they didn't have Colossus throw Wolvie around and have the runt slice the cars in half.

I´ve noticed you mention Wolverine in almost everything you post.
You must really love the guy! Why don´t you join us on the Logan thread? Then maybe you can give us some more of your brilliant insight on the "obnoxious runt".

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, in fairness, you don’t use the most extreme (or most effective) weapon at the start of a conflict. Otherwise all real-world wars would begin with a nuclear bomb being dropped and that would be that. But that doesn’t happen - conflict does progress in levels as the sides try to assess each others strengths and weaknesses. And Magneto obviously wanted to show there was an army of opposition against the cure, that it wasn’t just him opposing it. He was rallying people to his cause through the movie - and yet he has the power and experience to act solo at any time. Why then does he need a Brotherhood at all if he can do the things he does? By your reasoning, he wouldn’t need or want to bother recruiting anyone to join him. Why bother recruiting an amphibian with a 20ft tongue? Why bother recruiting a metamorph and using stealth infiltrations when he can just crush buildings, smash things to pieces, deflect guns and bullets, wreck military weapons? Why doesn’t he just go round on his own smashing everything that gets in his way in order to take over the world?

Nuclear weapons are a totally different than throwing flaming cars X-Maniac, come on, you know this. Throwing the cars would not have expended his WHOLE army and the military may never even have got the chance to bring the cure weapons into the battle, and he showed he had a whole army with him when they were all standing behind him on a bridge. And of course Magneto needs a brotherhood, because there are going to be situations were his powers will be useless, AND he needs protection. Plus, in X1, he used the brotherhood to go out in public for him so he wouldnt have to.

*However, yes, Storm was grossly under-used (partly due to the cutting of the flash-flood scene). Iceman did at least create an ice wall that some of the mutants crashed into.

Agreed on Storm, though i thought Iceman could have done A LOT more.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Let's say for instance that Magneto had thrown the ignited cars first of all... What then? How would the X-Men have stopped him, how would things have progressed? Don't just bash what we saw, suggest something that is obviously better.

Well for one, Magneto would still have had his whole army to unleash on the X-Men so a full battle could still commence. Not to mention Storm could have done a multitude of things to counter the flaming cars, or, if they had not killed Cyclops he could have been shooting them out of the air like Ntcrawler said, or you could even have had Collosus catching them (why he had to take cover from them in the first place i'll never know). ALL of these would have been better IMO and not made Magneto look such an idiot.