I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[Eddie Dean]

Could be... could be...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

"extremely stringent" You mean the actual definition of what a studio greenlight is instead of you and Eddie's brilliant interpretations? Pre-production hasn't started yet and regardless it doesn't change my point we weren't getting **** about the first movie at this stage of the game either (or for most movies, for that matter) which is what I was referring to.

What do you think the actual definition of greenlit is and why does it not apply to The Batman II?

 

[Invader Joker]

What do you think the actual definition of greenlit is and why does it not apply to The Batman II?

Once a film has a script approved by the studio, moving the film from the development stage (which is writing the script) to pre-production, which is when sets begin to get built, locations begin to get scouted, auditions begin to be carried out, when hundreds of crew members begin to get hired to actively physically work on the film, etc.

We know that the film is not yet at that latter stage, mostly because the dude who'd have to give this film the greenlight basically told us it isn't greenlit yet.




I just can't ****ing believe I get so much **** for using the actual ****ing definitions of these ****ing things.

It's even on Wikipedia, and a simple google search would lead you to 100 other sources saying the same thing. The writing stage is not pre-production, is development. Once a film gets a greenlight, it moves from development to pre-production.

Greenlight - Wikipedia
In the context of the film and television industries, to greenlight is to give permission to proceed with a project.[1][2][3] It specifically refers to formally approving its production finance and committing to this financing, thereby allowing the project to proceed from the development phase to pre-production and principal photography.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Anyways... who is writing Penguin the letter?

 

[Iceman]

Just want to see what Gaga gets up to in this. She's my reason for being quite interested after the first film was fine as a one-off watch but not something I would otherwise go back to.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Once a film has a script approved by the studio, moving the film from the development stage (which is writing the script) to pre-production, which is when sets begin to get built, locations begin to get scouted, auditions begin to be carried out, when hundreds of crew members begin to get hired to actively physically work on the film, etc.

We know that the film is not yet at that latter stage, mostly because the dude who'd have to give this film the greenlight basically told us it isn't greenlit yet.




I just can't ****ing believe I get so much **** for using the actual ****ing definitions of these ****ing things.

Do you believe no film has ever been greenlit without a script being done? Like say, The Last Jedi? Do you think it was not greenlit before Rian Johnson finished the script?

Does this apply to TV shows?

 

[Invader Joker]

Do you believe no film has ever been greenlit without a script being done? Like say, The Last Jedi. Do you think it was not greenlit before Rian Johnson finished the script?

Does this apply this to TV shows?

Bro you always take conversations into directions that are quite frankly ****ing pointless. My point was that at this stage of filmmaking we weren't getting news in regards to the first film and we typically don't get news for most films at this stage either.
Even if you want to be obnoxious as hell and go "WELL WELL GREEENLIGHT AS GUNN PUT IT IS JUST SEMANTICS BLAH BLAH BLAH" that doesn't change that point.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I’d say the major studio blockbuster sequel to a significant hit that likely has shooting spaces booked and dated (remember: that was part of the delay) is not just waiting for Daddy Gunn to be pleased with the screenplay to be officially happening lol

 

[Invader Joker]

I’d say the major studio blockbuster sequel to a significant hit that likely has shooting spaces booked and dated (remember: that was part of the delay) is not just waiting for Daddy Gunn to be pleased with the screenplay to be officially happening lol

They need to have the script in order to greenlight a budget in order to get things moving in terms of physical pre-production. Gunn knows the film is gonna be made, everyone at the studio knows that too, but "greenlight" still means something in terms of moving from development to pre-production. Absolutely astounding how I'm still getting **** for explaining this very very simple concept you can easily just google. And once again, the point I'm making is that we typically don't get news on any film until that pre-production stage is reached.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Bro you always take conversations into directions that are quite frankly ****ing pointless. My point was that at this stage of filmmaking we weren't getting news in regards to the first film and we typically don't get news for most films at this stage either.
Even if you want to be obnoxious as hell and go "WELL WELL GREEENLIGHT AS GUNN PUT IT IS JUST SEMANTICS BLAH BLAH BLAH" that doesn't change that point.

How is what I wrote pointless? You are yelling at people over the definition of greenlit.

 

[Invader Joker]

How is what I wrote pointless? You are yelling at people over the definition of greenlit.

I wasn't the one that started it lol. I made my point in regards to the fact that we shouldn't be surprised we weren't getting any news because we typically don't get news until pre-production begins. Then all of you came at me with this pointless and annoying finger waging over semantics because I dare use words by their actual definition instead of by the casual terminology you guys made up in your heads.

 

[Eddie Dean]

They need to have the script in order to greenlight a budget in order to get things moving in terms of physical pre-production. Gunn knows the film is gonna be made, everyone at the studio knows that too, but "greenlight" still means something in terms of moving from development to pre-production. Absolutely astounding how I'm still getting **** for explaining this very very simple concept you can easily just google. And once again, the point I'm making is that we typically don't get news on any film until that pre-production stage is reached.

It may shock you to learn that many films do not have scripts totally done before production starts, and indeed, many times after the movie comes out.

 

[Invader Joker]

It may shock you to learn that many films do not have scripts totally done before production starts, and indeed, many times after the movie comes out.

I ****ing know that too, but that doesn't change what the "greenlight" concept means as a filmmaking term, and it also doesn't change the fact we typically don't get news before pre-production begins (which is an actual filmmaking stage with a very specific definition) WHICH IS THE POINT I'M MAKING! You guys would rather go off in circles piling on me over stupid **** rather than moving on to talk about anything else jesus christ.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I wasn't the one that started it lol. I made my point in regards to the fact that we shouldn't be surprised we weren't getting any news because we typically don't get news until pre-production begins. Then all of you came at me with this pointless and annoying finger waging over semantics because I dare use words by their actual definition instead of by the casual terminology you guys made up in your heads.

All I asked you was two questions. Which in two replies you haven't answered. I wasn't finger waging over semantics. I do not know why you think you have the right to deem what is and is not pointless here.

 

[flickchick85]

"extremely stringent" You mean the actual definition of what a studio greenlight is instead of you and Eddie's brilliant interpretations?

Dial down the condescension or take another vacation.

 

[Invader Joker]

All I asked you was two questions. Which in two replies you haven't answered. I wasn't finger waging over semantics. I do not know why you think you have the right to deem what is and is not pointless here. This isn't your forum nor are you a mod.

Bro all you do is finger wag over everything especially when it comes to replying to anything I say lmao And idk man, I personally think that there are more interesting things to talk about in a The Batman thread than the semantics of what a greenlight means. I was more than ready to move on to talk about the letter in The Penguin which is 100 times more interesting than this (for the first time we actually have some clues as to where the sequel might go, Villain team-up?) but all you guys want to do is to get back to talking about this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Bro all you do is finger wag over everything especially when it comes to replying to anything I say lmao And idk man, I personally think that there are more interesting things to talk about in a The Batman thread than the semantics of what a greenlight means. I was more than ready to move on to talk about the letter in The Penguin which is 100 times more interesting than this (for the first time we actually have some clues as to where the sequel might go, Villain team-up?) but all you guys want to do is to get back to talking about this.

That is not what finger wag means.

I asked two questions and I'm still curious to get the answer to them.

Do you think any film has ever been greenlit before a script is done?

Do you apply the same definition to a TV show being greenlit?

 

[Eddie Dean]

Can we talk about Penguin instead???

 

[Invader Joker]

Another indication it's Riddler: The rataalada.com website also uses the "pal" thing.

Wonder if Reeves is building up to doing some sort of version of this in the sequel, all the rogues teaming up:

 

[Eddie Dean]

Please. It's all I want and all I need.

 

[Gothamsknight]

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Another indication it's Riddler: The rataalada.com website also uses the "pal" thing.

Wonder if Reeves is building up to doing some sort of version of this in the sequel, all the rogues teaming up:

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Yes please

 

[Invader Joker]

I also think it marks an extremely extremely interesting "evolution" (if you can even call it that, it's probably the opposite) for Riddler in how his whole shtick in the first movie is going after the corrupt and the gangsters etc but now he's gonna be directly allying himself with someone whose right in the middle of all that mess and essentially set to become the new Falcone. There's obviously a very self-serving angle to that, and maybe some backstabbing will happen eventually, but it does go to show how his priorities are shifting now that he got rejected by Batman.

 

[Kane52630]

Could be... could be...

could also be

 

[solidsnake86]

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Another indication it's Riddler: The rataalada.com website also uses the "pal" thing.

Wonder if Reeves is building up to doing some sort of version of this in the sequel, all the rogues teaming up:

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This would be the one thing that hasn't been tackled yet in live action for batman. He did put 4 villains in the first movie (counting joker and Catwoman). I'm sure the sequel will have a few more. We've heard rumours of a scarecrow standalone, Harvey Dent almost seems like a given.

It may also be why they scraped the Arkham show, having the rogues all teaming up is something that needs to be seen on the big screen.

 

[AndyTrevino]

The thing that doesn't quite convince me it's Riddler is the handwriting. And I'll admit, a very VERY small (biased) part of me thinks it's probably The Joker.

But my own Occam's Razor theory is that it's Sofia writing to Oz.