I'm sorry, Lana should have died!!!

[Syncos]

Here's an interesting question....

Do you guys think that Lana would have reacted the same way to Clark's secret, had he been honest with her? If it didn't go six years of him constantly watching over her and saving her, and having the chance to protect him, while finding out the secret herself....

I just stopped to think about it, and maybe it's the fact that he was so secretive, trying to protect her from himself, that she actually accepted him. There's no doubt in my mind that had he told her right away, him being the cause of her parents deaths would have outweighed any feelings she may have had for him.

... Just something to think about

 

[Serene]

Here's an interesting question....

Do you guys think that Lana would have reacted the same way to Clark's secret, had he been honest with her? If it didn't go six years of him constantly watching over her and saving her, and having the chance to protect him, while finding out the secret herself....

I just stopped to think about it, and maybe it's the fact that he was so secretive, trying to protect her from himself, that she actually accepted him. There's no doubt in my mind that had he told her right away, him being the cause of her parents deaths would have outweighed any feelings she may have had for him.

... Just something to think about

Well, he did tell her in Reckoning and she did accept him. That was prior to any of her involvement with Lex, so I do think it's been well established that Lana would have always accepted Clark based on what she knows of him, and her love for him. "You're still the same Clark to me."

The thing with her parents that I don't understand is why people (generic) think that Clark was responsible? It was the meteor shower that killed her parents, certainly NOT Clark. Lana may not be well-liked, but she's not stupid - I can't believe she would hold an infant responsible for her parents death just because he happened to ride in with that meteor shower. That meteor shower is directly related to him losing his parents as well.

To assume she would hold the death of her parents against Clark you first have to assume that she's slightly irrational. I know she seems that way lately , but in the long run, I don't believe she is.

 

[AgentPat]

Here's an interesting question....

Do you guys think that Lana would have reacted the same way to Clark's secret, had he been honest with her? If it didn't go six years of him constantly watching over her and saving her, and having the chance to protect him, while finding out the secret herself....

I just stopped to think about it, and maybe it's the fact that he was so secretive, trying to protect her from himself, that she actually accepted him. There's no doubt in my mind that had he told her right away, him being the cause of her parents deaths would have outweighed any feelings she may have had for him.

... Just something to think about

I'm actually surprised nobody is blaming Clark for Lana's recent turn to darkness. "Oh, if he would have told her sooner, none of this would have happened" yada yada. Seems like a lot of people would rather blame Clark for the actions of those around him - Lex specifically.

 

[Son of Sun]

Of course Lana needed some prepping, but I think it simply went too far and way too long. The issue should've been handled a lot earlier, when the concept still was there, like I said in my earlier post.

I reckon that Lana being able to see for herself the things that Clark could do played a big part in how she accepted the whole matter. She was able to put things into perspective on her own time, rather than just being told so. Still, I'm pretty annoyed over the fact that they didn't even handle the death of Lana's parents when Clark told her the truth - I mean, it was so apparent to me how her character lived with that event everyday in the first few seasons, but I guess it's true what they say: You can't go home.

The thing with her parents that I don't understand is why people (generic) think that Clark was responsible?

Even though I keep whining about the matter, I don't think that Clark killed them. It's just something that happened, but also realize how human it would be to see this in the light that Clark's coming to earth was responsible for their death - and so, it's Clark's fault. The reason why this would be such a big thing for Clark is simply because, ironically, he is more humane than most humans, and it's easy to see him blaming himself. Seeing his friends suffer from something like this, even if how inderect, in my opinion underlines Clark's personality and his goodness. Naturally, as he grows up more he realizes that it's not exactly something that he should be blamed for, even if the bottom line is that they wouldnt've died if Clark wouldnt've come to earth.

 

[avidreader]

The thing is the storyline of Lana's parents being killed by the meteor shower and Clark in the earlier seasons feeling responsible for it, has been put to bed and laid to rest.

Both Clark and Lana came to terms with the events that happened that day a long time ago, so therefore there's no need for either of them to bring that into their relationship now.

 

[Syncos]

I'm actually surprised nobody is blaming Clark for Lana's recent turn to darkness. "Oh, if he would have told her sooner, none of this would have happened" yada yada. Seems like a lot of people would rather blame Clark for the actions of those around him - Lex specifically.

I don't know about you guys. But I blame Clark for Lana's recent turn to darkness.

You know, if he would have told her sooner, none of this would have happened.

t:

 

[Serene]

I don't know about you guys. But I blame Clark for Lana's recent turn to darkness.

You know, if he would have told her sooner, none of this would have happened.

t:

Well, of course.

First he ruined Lex's sparkling future as a beloved humanitarian, and now he's single-handedly destroyed Lana.

MB!Clark.

 

[avidreader]

Well, of course.

First he ruined Lex's sparkling future as a beloved humanitarian, and now he's single-handedly destroyed Lana.

MB!Clark.

You forgot to mention that he's directly responsible for Chloe's current crisis.

 

[Serene]

You forgot to mention that he's directly responsible for Chloe's current crisis.

First he broke her heart, then he planted meteor rock on her.

 

[Syncos]

First he broke her heart, then he planted meteor rock on her.

for a further metaphor, it's like he ripped open her heart, then added excessive amounts of kryptonite in it.

 

[avidreader]

First he broke her heart, then he planted meteor rock on her.

Oooo..... he planted meteor rock in her heart.

t:

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

The new Gooney saying

Lanas never say die !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Syncos]

Lana's wobble but they don't fall down.

..... imo.

 

[Serene]

for a further metaphor, it's like he ripped open her heart, then added excessive amounts of kryptonite in it.

Oooo..... he planted meteor rock in her heart.

t:

It IS canon. Dr. SavageKnox said Chloe had the highest concentration of meteor rock in her heart. :heart:

 

[AllThingsComic]

lol Chloe can kill Clark with the kindness in her heart!

 

[avidreader]

It IS canon. Dr. SavageKnox said Chloe had the highest concentration of meteor rock in her heart. :heart:

Actually, all jokes aside, although it is fun to joke every now and again, we can get a little serious around here t: . I wonder what that actually means in regards to her meteor ability. Is she an empath or is it something more directly related to her heart?

Interesting.

 

[Son of Sun]

First I thought that she might have somesorta splinter/shrapnel of kryptonite literally in her heart, but didn't Clark just scan her when he found the tracker - also, getting near Chloe would've become painful or at least uncomfortable if she would indeed have a piece of kryptonite inside her. And, I'm not sure if the evil doctor would've put a heart in such a state into his woman, even if for a little while, if there existed a risk that the shrapnel might move to prevent the circulation of blood, and so on.

One thing is sure: Clark doesn't get sick around Chloe, therefore the source of her healing ability can't be kryptonite in its raw form. I'm guessing it's something that refined into her, just like most of the meteorfreaks, because hasn't Chloe been around and about meteors more than... about anyone. I'm guessing it just enhanced her ability to care about people. It's sweet, but in real life reporters have to harden their hearts and be as irritating as some of the irritating reporters are portrayed in... anything.

So it's a stretch, but I guess it might actually be something like that. Didn't Chloe use to be somewhat of an ace reported back with SV Torch, where she would just poke around like Lois is doing currently - and when the new editor sort of wanted Lois and Chloe to compete, I could see that Chloe was uncomfortable with it. It might've been from the natural dislike of something like that - when ambition and rivarly meets in a family relation. Or it might've just been the discomfort of the job, regarding what was expected and how she has changed from a cold hearted reporter to a peoples person, after seeing so much suffering and injustice with her adventures with Clark.

Thus, maybe her heart just has changed into unnaturally strong... strong enough to beat for those whose hearts aren't beating anymore. I guess it wouldn't exactly explain how the knife-wound was healed on Lois...

Anyways, I think I need the morning coffee

 

[Son of Sun]

Whoops! Double post.

 

[Captivated]

Early on... When Clark was feeling all guilty and responsible himself, he projected that onto others... thinking they would blame him if they knew "the truth." But I never thought Lana would blame Clark for her parents death. The meteor shower made HIM an orphan too. They had that in common.

Has anyone wondered about the fact that Lana had some VERY scary run-ins with aliens from Krypton before? She didn't hear about Krypton and Kal-El for the first time when Clark finally fessed up.

Remember she told the murderous beings from the black ship that she knew where Kal-El was... and then lead them back to the mansion to try and kill them with pieces of their "home planet" (the meteor rock). And how Zod/Lex told her he wanted to recreate Krypton on earth and that they were a superior race...

I think she has had enough history with Clark to see him as only a force for good... but with all the BAD experiences she had with others from Krypton, I'm surprised she's so calm about what she saw with Kara and MM... they both accused each other of not being trustworthy... "watch your back Clark." etc.

 

[AllThingsComic]

Sorry to reprise this dead and rotted thread, but I just saw the preview for the next Smallville (DVR cut the damn preview) and I just have one thing to say. GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!

 

[avidreader]

Sorry to reprise this dead and rotted thread, but I just saw the preview for the next Smallville (DVR cut the damn preview) and I just have one thing to say. GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!

I know. What are the writers thinking, giving the female lead an episode where she gets to take out her anger on all the horrible and destructive things that Lex Luthor did to her and many others. Things like drugging her with a high dose of synthetic hormones to mimic a pregnancy all so that she would marry him, thereby precluding her one true love, Clark Kent, to no longer be a presence in her life and for Lex Luthor to come out and boast in front of Clark, that he won. He got the girl.

And I bet you anything, that giving her these powers (which I mean have you ever heard of this in Smallville continuity before, a person getting Clark's powers by kryptonite and a lightening strike) will not make her understand just what a special person Clark is and how hard it is for him to exercise restraint on his abilities when he could so easily just go out and kill every bad person there is around the world. I mean Clark is all about protecting and helping people, seeing the good in them and being a force for good, not evil. But they'll never have Lana be made aware of any of this.

[/sarcasm]

 

[AgentPat]

I know. What are the writers thinking, giving the female lead an episode where she gets to take out her anger on all the horrible and destructive things that Lex Luthor did to her and many others.

She had a loaded gun pointed at him in "Kara." If she didn't pull the trigger the first time, there's a pretty good argument to be made for why she'd "try" again. And physicality aside, isn't it psychologically a lot easier to just pull a trigger than it is to throw somebody around a room and then choke them to death?

Things like drugging her with a high dose of synthetic hormones to mimic a pregnancy all so that she would marry him, thereby precluding her one true love, Clark Kent, to no longer be a presence in her life and for Lex Luthor to come out and boast in front of Clark, that he won. He got the girl.

Indeed, but you got to also remember that Lex was Lana's consolation prize. If her "one true love" was Clark Kent, what was she doing falling in love with Lex Luthor to begin with? <- Rhetorical question. We know she was blackmailed into marrying Lex at the eleventh hour when Lionel threatened to kill Clark, but did she stay with Lex prior to that because she was pregnant, or because she truly did have feelings for him? It's a gray area, I think.

And I bet you anything, that giving her these powers (which I mean have you ever heard of this in Smallville continuity before, a person getting Clark's powers by kryptonite and a lightening strike) will not make her understand just what a special person Clark is and how hard it is for him to exercise restraint on his abilities when he could so easily just go out and kill every bad person there is around the world. I mean Clark is all about protecting and helping people, seeing the good in them and being a force for good, not evil. But they'll never have Lana be made aware of any of this.

So, the best way to make Lana aware of Clark's restraint is to give her his powers? Second question would be why she needs to be made aware of this at all? Hasn't she already seen enough good in Clark? She's actually experienced it first hand and told him so in Thirst.

<- Having fun playing Devil's Advocate today. Must be my Reaper hangover.

 

[avidreader]

<- Having fun playing Devil's Advocate today. Must be my Reaper hangover.

I've not watched that show yet.

 

[AllThingsComic]

Thank you Pat! lol My real issue besides the whole Lana thing is this transference of Clarks "abilities". That is the stupidest idea the writers ever came up with. Ok if you want to make him lose his abilities for a little while somehow, fine I can deal with that, but to transfer is just ridiculous.

 

[AgentPat]

Yeah, okay.

I feel like you're taking all of my posts and construing them in completely the wrong way.

Huh?

I responded to two of your posts this morning? The boards are dead other than you, me, Melly (who I just responded to), and ATC... who I'm about to respond to next.

I wasn't trying to be antagonistic; I'm just trying to see all points of view. But I'll stop replying if you feel my responses are out of context. Maybe I'm just in the wrong frame of mind today, I dunno?

Thank you Pat! lol My real issue besides the whole Lana thing is this transference of Clarks "abilities". That is the stupidest idea the writers ever came up with. Ok if you want to make him lose his abilities for a little while somehow, fine I can deal with that, but to transfer is just ridiculous.

It would take me a year and a day to find my first posts about this - and I'm not even sure they're here or over at K-Site - but I never liked the idea that Clark could swap what essentially is a biological make-up with a human and effectively become human and them Kryptonian. Clark has powers on Earth because of his genetic make-up and biological heredity. On a scientifically logical level - which I know tends to aggravate people because we're supposed to suspend our disbelief on these things - Clark shouldn't be able to change his DNA, genetics and freakin' species (LOL!) just because he was zapped by electricity in the presence of Kryptonite. It becomes even more ridiculous to believe a human can become Kryptonian by a similar event. And then it's just silly fantasy to accept the process could be reversed - repeatedly. LOL

I ignore these things because they ARE entertaining. Watching Clark be "human" in episodes like Leech and Mortal were awesome!! If I were writing the episode(s) however, I wouldn't make him "human." I'd just strip him of his powers. There is a bit of a continuity issue there too because in Leech, Jonathan and Martha were afraid to let the doctor X-Ray Clark knowing that he might not look as human on the inside as he does on the outside LOL. But in Hidden, he was perfectly normal. Granted, those two situations are slightly different as Leech was a power swap, and Jor-El made Clark human (how?!!) in Arrival, but being the anal science nut that I am, I do think about these things.