I'm thinking more and more we will get the cartoon origin of Venom...

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After reading this line from the teaser trailer description.....

0:56 Spiderman laying in bed and black web/goo seems to grab his hand from below

I just watched "The Alien Costume (Part 1)" cartoon and about 11:50 into it the symbiote is crawling on the floor towards a sleeping Peter. He then wakes up from a nightmare upside down hanging from a building in the city.

We know '3' is the origin of Venom. And being that we've already been introduced to John Jameson in '2' I think it makes perfect sense for them to go with the cartoon origin in some aspect with JJ bringing back the symbiote from space. :up:
 
I'm wondering if,and how Venom will speak. Do you thinks that when Brock is Venom that he should just be this savage creature who doesn't talk?
 
I´m thinking more and more we could just wait for a synopsis...
 
Stevens25 said:
I'm wondering if,and how Venom will speak. Do you thinks that when Brock is Venom that he should just be this savage creature who doesn't talk?

I think and hope Venom does speak. Eddie "speaks through" Venom in the comics so I fully expect Topher to do the same in the movie. :up:
 
SBrooks1 said:
After reading this line from the teaser trailer description.....



I just watched "The Alien Costume (Part 1)" cartoon and about 11:50 into it the symbiote is crawling on the floor towards a sleeping Peter. He then wakes up from a nightmare upside down hanging from a building in the city.

We know '3' is the origin of Venom. And being that we've already been introduced to John Jameson in '2' I think it makes perfect sense for them to go with the cartoon origin in some aspect with JJ bringing back the symbiote from space. :up:
totally forgot about him for some odd reason. i hope this could happen.
 
He better speak, if they do what they did to the Hulk. No ones going to be happy. He should at least call himself Venom, or else they risk missing out on some fanboy gold like they did in Hulk, when they didn't have him say "HULK SMASH!!" :D
 
that would be the best a meteor makes the connection with Peter too random
 
It's better than getting the "suit that cure cancers" idea from "Ultimate Spider-Man" I mean come on...I thought the Peter and Eddie friendship and connection was well-concieved, but a symbiote suit that cures cancer is a little much.

Besides, it'd be cool to see Spidey try and save an out of control space shuttle ala like Superman trying to save an out of control plane.
 
don't be surprised if his origin is a hybrid, from what we've seen in the last 2 Raimi likes to take the best bits from all of the spidey back catalog - who could blame him, he is creating his own spin on it and i'm sure he wouldn't limit himself by sticking to one idea of what happens.
 
Stevens25 said:
I'm wondering if,and how Venom will speak. Do you thinks that when Brock is Venom that he should just be this savage creature who doesn't talk?

I like how he spoke in the cartoons. Venom was both the symbiote and Eddie as one. They would talk of themselves as two people. not exact quote but this is how he spoke.
SM: What are you doing here?
Venom: Us? We were waiting for you Parker.?
And i like how he was really deep in spidermans life, he knew that spiderman was Peter Parker and ironically Aunt May told Peter that Eddie was a nice man.
 
I hope (wouldn't really mind, if story goes well) that Saimi doesn't create this "symbiote substance" with another experimental disaster at Oscorp. Hope it is alien
 
the alien stuff is way to out thier, keep things down to earth. I hardly see a freaking space ship crashing into Brooklyn bridge lol.
 
Ya lol. But it could come down from a meterorite that was also shown from tv show.
 
Don't forget the "darkness from within" part. I think it's possible spiderman actually creates the black goo too.

Either way would be prime with me although the alien thing seems a bit too farfetched since it changes the scope of spidey's world. That's why x3 didn't get into all that shiar empire stuff in that version of the phoenix saga.
 
the spaceship crash is a no-go. meteorite is what's going down.
 
Maybe it will start like in the cartoon the shuttle loses control and crashes (not on the bridge but maybe Central park or something) and Spidey goes in to see if he can save anyone, but in the movie he gets ambushed by the suit and is knocked out for a second, he gets back up and doesn't see the black stuff anywhere because it's copied his costume.

Something else that happens could be, he enters, he sees the alien all over the wall/floor, it's just lying there stunned or dying, not knowing what it is, he reaches out to touch it and wonders what happened in the ship. he hears groans from the astronauts, he runs over and gets the guys out and then a fire breaks out killing the rest of the alien except for the bit on spidey and we take it from there.

Just tossing out some ideas :D
 
i like the space shuttle the most but i can see how people would not like the whole alien thing with such a small time to set it up....what we really need is a Secret War movie!!!!
 
SBrooks1 said:
After reading this line from the teaser trailer description.....



I just watched "The Alien Costume (Part 1)" cartoon and about 11:50 into it the symbiote is crawling on the floor towards a sleeping Peter. He then wakes up from a nightmare upside down hanging from a building in the city.
That is exactly how the Q and A says he gets the symbiote on him...so we shall see...
 
I heard something about it being on a meteorite that crashes to Earth. I dont remember if it was just fan speculation, or an actual rumor. I really think Raimi will blend different origins to create his own, it seems to be the best way to go.
 
Stevens25 said:
I'm wondering if,and how Venom will speak. Do you thinks that when Brock is Venom that he should just be this savage creature who doesn't talk?

I think they'll just use an effect on Topher's voice
 
Firslty I reallly hope Venom does talk, the cartoon absoloutly nailed the voice, brocks voice can be clearly heard but is synthesised through the symbiote showing the dual personality, top stuff. & for the hulk comments before I think they did right with not allowing him to talk, It make work in the comics but on screen they made him an uncontrollable beast & i think if he spoke the polar opposite of the genius of banner & the mindlessness of the hulk would be lost, plus that one dream sequence where he did talk, sounded horrible, like he had one too many cigarettes before shooting.

But back to Venom I wouldn't mind the cartoon origin story at all, its logical, it brings JJ chaarcter which they firmly established to be an astronaut into the mix, the black goo remains an alien just doesn't have to be sent down in such a dramaticly strange fashion (meteor just doesn't seem necessary + seems too superman/x-files) & then we can have what sounds to be a great scene with peter laying in bed with the symbiote crawling up his arm, EVIL DEAD CAM ANYONE????
 
Now, I think, is how does peter aquire the alien?

In the toon, I think it attaches to his suit while he's rescuing JJJ's son from the shuttle crash. for the movie they could do that or...

Peter's powers start to glitch again and he discharges a black gooey substance that transforms him into emo parker.

Or the shuttle thing. either way is fine.
 
NinjaTurtleFan said:
It's better than getting the "suit that cure cancers" idea from "Ultimate Spider-Man" I mean come on...I thought the Peter and Eddie friendship and connection was well-concieved, but a symbiote suit that cures cancer is a little much.

Besides, it'd be cool to see Spidey try and save an out of control space shuttle ala like Superman trying to save an out of control plane.
I don´t see how it´s more far-fetched than something surviving in a meteor in space for God knows how long before coming to Earth.
 

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