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I'm thinking more and more we will get the cartoon origin of Venom...

SBrooks1 said:
After reading this line from the teaser trailer description.....



I just watched "The Alien Costume (Part 1)" cartoon and about 11:50 into it the symbiote is crawling on the floor towards a sleeping Peter. He then wakes up from a nightmare upside down hanging from a building in the city.

We know '3' is the origin of Venom. And being that we've already been introduced to John Jameson in '2' I think it makes perfect sense for them to go with the cartoon origin in some aspect with JJ bringing back the symbiote from space. :up:



Nice Idea....Seems the most Plausible:) :up:
 
I am hoping it is along these lines as I want for it to be an alien suit, allowing for comyunication and the whole Brock issues, and it is just better and more believable then the secret wars (for a movie) and the ultimate version. I just don't want it to be created on Earth.
 
KevanG said:
He better speak, if they do what they did to the Hulk. No ones going to be happy. He should at least call himself Venom, or else they risk missing out on some fanboy gold like they did in Hulk, when they didn't have him say "HULK SMASH!!" :D

Hulk did say "HULK SMASH" it just wasnt so audible.
 
Maybe Conners and Parker could be jointly studying a gooey rock/jewel that JJJ's son found on the moon, and some of the symbiote climbs onto Peter unknowingly. This could help shape SM4 to have one or both of Lizard and Man-Wolf. Now whether as fans we'd accept Man-Wolf would be another thing.
 
I really dont like the Ultimate version with the cancer curing suit, Secret Wars was the original but you cant set that up in one movie, assuming that you could make that movie at all, so I would have to agree I like the 90s cartoon version the best for the movie. Even though most likely it will be a meteor, but I do also like your idea Future Prez, it would save alot of time and money for Sony and still keep the alien aspect for the die hard fans.
 
I like the 90s cartoon origin. But I am pretty sure they will keep this movie quiet scientically plausible and go with Doc Conners developing something unstable in his early stages of his research and creates the symbiote. I do like Future Prez's idea too.
 
Maybe the 4th Villian is Rhyno. (doubt it though) Cause if they go with the cartoon origin, it was rhyno who attack John Jameson's Space shuttle or something like that and that was the episode where he was introduced. Rhyno kicked spiderman's ass, but later on when spidey got the suit he returned the favour.
 
i-n-z-a-n-e said:
Maybe the 4th Villian is Rhyno. (doubt it though) Cause if they go with the cartoon origin, it was rhyno who attack John Jameson's Space shuttle or something like that and that was the episode where he was introduced. Rhyno kicked spiderman's ass, but later on when spidey got the suit he returned the favour.

"Rhino" not "Rhyno." ;) :up:
 
The only way I can see them making Rhino realistic is having a big guy with a little armor on....have him be a thug or something.
Just no rhino suit please.
 
chaseter said:
The only way I can see them making Rhino realistic is having a big guy with a little armor on....have him be a thug or something.
Just no rhino suit please.

Why not? The robotic rhino suit is stupid and it's operated by a little pipsqueak twirp who Spidey could flick away like a mosquito if he could. Give me the man in a rhino costume anyday. It's simple, cost-effective, and easy to use as a cameo villain or a regular henchman.
 
NinjaTurtleFan said:
Why not? The robotic rhino suit is stupid and it's operated by a little pipsqueak twirp who Spidey could flick away like a mosquito if he could. Give me the man in a rhino costume anyday. It's simple, cost-effective, and easy to use as a cameo villain or a regular henchman.
No I don't like the robotic rhino either. I like the big brute of a man rhino that Spidey jumped around and pestered. I just don't see a grey rhino costume going over well. I think he should be a huge guy with some greyish metal armor on to protect him from gunfire and such.
 
chaseter said:
No I don't like the robotic rhino either. I like the big brute of a man rhino that Spidey jumped around and pestered. I just don't see a grey rhino costume going over well. I think he should be a huge guy with some greyish metal armor on to protect him from gunfire and such.

That could work or he could simply use the same material "The Fantastic Four" used for their costumes. But I see what you're talking about now like have Rhino wear a metallic alloy suit. That'd work great.
 
Weapon M said:
Hulk did say "HULK SMASH" it just wasnt so audible.

I've watched it about 5 times and I haven't heard him say it. When was it?
 
chaseter said:
No I don't like the robotic rhino either. I like the big brute of a man rhino that Spidey jumped around and pestered. I just don't see a grey rhino costume going over well. I think he should be a huge guy with some greyish metal armor on to protect him from gunfire and such.

^They should just use the same look as Juggernaut from X-3.just make the skin color grey,and add a rhino horn to the helmet.
 
I can see the fan trailers doing that now :D
 
Stevens25 said:
I'm wondering if,and how Venom will speak. Do you thinks that when Brock is Venom that he should just be this savage creature who doesn't talk?

I think he should speak by removing the symbiote off his head... and when he has it on, Venom should just say very few words and in a beasty way... like PARRRRRKERRRRRR.....
 
I'm all up for a space mission storyline. However with the Special Effects they're already going to have to throw down in this movie, a huge shuttle crash on the bridge seems like asking for too much. Maybe have the symbiote bond with JJ after he finds the rock, and have him confronting peter (because of peter stealing MJ away). Maybe while he's at the Bugle talking to his father. He flips out at peter, the symbiote amping up his emotions, and eventually JJJ's like "JOHN! GET AHOLD OF YOURSELF!" and the symbiote moves on to Peter in the process. I donno... I'm just trying to think of other ways of getting the symbiote to peter without "There's a meteor, and the symbiote just HAPPENS to find spiderman ROFL!" *shrug*

-Syn
 
Parquagh said:
I think he should speak by removing the symbiote off his head... and when he has it on, Venom should just say very few words and in a beasty way... like PARRRRRKERRRRRR.....

No. Bad. Ultimate Spiderman Game Venom. Bad.
 
Parquagh said:
I think he should speak by removing the symbiote off his head... and when he has it on, Venom should just say very few words and in a beasty way... like PARRRRRKERRRRRR.....

that's more like Ultimate GG (when he's first introduced). same with Ultimate Venom, though both eventually gain the ability to speak well.
 
A meteor would just be stupid. John Jameson is already set up as an astronaut so why not use him to introduce the symbiote? In one of the first comics Spidey saves John as his vessel is hurtling towards earth. Spidey hitches a ride on a fighter jet, jumps on the vessel rips open the hull, and pulls John to safety. Why not use that amazing action sequence in the movie? Pleases the comic book fans and introduces the origin of the alien symbiote :o .
 
ru8up75 said:
i like the space shuttle the most but i can see how people would not like the whole alien thing with such a small time to set it up....what we really need is a Secret War movie!!!!

You know except for the avengers, every other hero team in the secret wars has had thier own movie (I think), so it might be possible :D the villains would have to get all changed around though.
 
I hope we get the cartoon origin, personally.... It would be the easiest thing to set up... especially if Harry is going after the Promethium X as opposed to Kingpin.
 
Ultimate Venom is perfect. They could get into Peter's parents a bit, I don't think they've been mentioned yet in the movies. If they don't want to touch up on that yet then have Connors make it. The ultimate version was MEANT to cure cancer, but it was only in its beginning stages. Having the symbiote being attached to a meteor that is just randomly found by PP is too lazy. I would be okay with JJ with it on the shuttle that crashes idea but then if they discovered it, wouldn't the message have been reported back to Earth that alien life has been found and it's this gooey black thing? Once SM found it and it attached to him it would be a 24/7 city wide chase to find that weirdo in tights that stole the alien.
 

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