In The End, Was The Wrestling Thread Worth It?

[Pink Ranger]

Stephen Farrelly (Sheamus) image based around Celtic mythology and was supposed to be unstereotypical. Farrelly said the WWE wanted to give him a stereotypical drunken fighting Irishman gimmick when he first started there.

Well, he now has a stereotypical sober fighting Irishman gimmick, so that's progress at least.

 

[H.U.S.T.L.E.]

Even if it is a little stereotypical, it's not a demeaning gimmick at least. I miss the Sheamus from summer 2011, when he was just a badass who'd take on anyone. "I'll fight ya fella" was succinct, to the point, and told you in few words what his character was about.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sheamus turn heel, or even just get an edge to him. If they decide to move Reigns away from the Shield for a Mania match, I think Sheamus would be a great opponent for him.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Wrestling is about stereotypes, and anyone who goes into that industry accepts that, to some degree. I think a mythical Celtic gimmick would go over the heads of a lot of the audience; WWE Raw is no time for an anthropology lesson. Besides, magic-based gimmicks haven't had the best track record (Papa Shango, Fantasio, Mordecai).

 

[SuperFerret]

Wrestling is about stereotypes, and anyone who goes into that industry accepts that, to some degree. I think a mythical Celtic gimmick would go over the heads of a lot of the audience; WWE Raw is no time for an anthropology lesson. Besides, magic-based gimmicks haven't had the best track record (Papa Shango, Fantasio, Mordecai).

That depends on what you do with it.

 

[Pink Ranger]

That depends on what you do with it.

Gob Bluth would have made a great jobber-to-the-stars.

 

[X Knight]

so Christian's heel now?

 

[SuperFerret]

I was talking more about the Undertaker than anything.

 

[Wheels]

I've been sold on Sheamus ever since his feud with Goldust in ECW. He's the guy who should've been booked like the destroyer, not Ryback. Sheamus isn't that good a promo, so he shouldn't talk a lot. He should always be kind of angry about something and itching to fight. His persona should be similar to Wolverine. Berserker rage!

 

[Slushy]

Sheamus was boring and one-dimensional when he was a heel. Nobody gave a fu** about him back then. He's better off as a face. At least he has personality that way.

Hardcore Heaven '99

Living Dangerously '99

Hardcore Heaven 2000

Guilty as Charged 2001

For me:

Guilty As Charged 2001. Like Sting Vs. Flair for WCW, RVD Vs. Lynn was the perfect fit for the ECW's grand finale.

Living Dangerously 1999 - The best match in the series when it comes down to it. Its like Hardcore Heaven 1999, but without all the botches.

Hardcore Heaven 1999 - This is the match that gets talked about the most by ECW fans, but it had too many botches for my taste.

Hardcore Heaven 2000 - I don't remember anything about this except Jerry Lynn won for a change.

On April 1, WWE will release a DVD and Blu-ray highlighting the legendary career of Ultimate Warrior, Ultimate Warrior: The Ultimate Collection. The full content listing for the DVD has revealed and it will feature over twenty-five matches, as well promos and apparently new interview segments with Warrior. Courtesy of WrestlingDVDNews.com, here is the complete listing:

DISC 1

Warriors Back!

Finding Wrestling

The Blade Runners vs. Perry Jackson & Shawn O’Reilly
UWF • April 11, 1986

Move to WCCW

Dingo Warrior vs. Chris Adams
WCCW • August 8, 1986

Arrival in WWE

Ultimate Warrior vs. Barry Horowitz
Wrestling Challenge • November 7, 1987

Ultimate Warrior vs. Steve Lombardi
Superstars • November 14, 1987

Getting Noticed

Ultimate Warrior vs. Harley Race
Boston, MA • March 5, 1988

Upgrading Warrior

Weasel Suit Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Bobby “The Brain” Heenan
Los Angeles, CA • July 15, 1988

Intercontinental Champion

Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. The Honky Tonk Man
SummerSlam • August 29, 1988

Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Honky Tonk Man
Philadelphia, PA • December 17, 1988

The Macho Man

WWE Championship and Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Macho Man Randy Savage
Boston, MA • February 11, 1989

Simply Ravishing

Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Rick Rude
SummerSlam • August 28, 1989

Building Momentum

Ultimate Warrior vs. Bob Bradley
Prime Time Wrestling • September 18, 1989

Ultimate Warrior vs. Brian Costello
Prime Time Wrestling • December 25, 1989

Ultimate Warrior confronts Andre on Brother Love Show
Superstars • July 29, 1989

Memories of Andre

Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Andre the Giant
Madison Square Garden • October 28, 1989

Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Andre the Giant
Saturday Night’s Main Event • November 25, 1989

DISC 2

Leading to Toronto

Ultimate Warrior Promo “Crash the Plane”
Superstars • March 10, 1990

Intercontinental Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Mr. Perfect
Madison Square Garden • March 19, 1990

Running to the Ring

The Ultimate Challenge
WWE Championship vs. Intercontinental Championship Match
Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior
WrestleMania VI • April 1, 1990

Responsibilities of the Champion

WWE Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Million $ Man Ted DiBiase
Wrestling Summit • April 13, 1990

WWE Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. “Ravishing” Rick Rude
Saturday Night’s Main Event • July 28, 1990

WWE Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Million $ Man Ted DiBiase
The Main Event • November 23, 1990

WWE Championship Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Sgt. Slaughter
Huntsville, AL • January 7, 1991

DISC 3

Steel Cage Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Macho King Randy Savage
Madison Square Garden • January 21, 1991

Ultimate Warrior ends Brother Loves Career
Superstars • March 2, 1991

No Limitations

Career Ending Match
Ultimate Warrior vs. Macho King Randy Savage
WrestleMania VII • March 24, 1991

Into the Darkness

Ultimate Warrior on Paul Bearers Funeral Parlour
Superstars • April 13, 1991

Ultimate Warrior vs. The Undertaker
Toronto, ON • June 2, 1991

Returning

Gene Okerlund Interviews Ultimate Warrior and Randy Savage
Superstars • July 25, 1992

Ultimate Maniacs

“Riding on the Edge of a Lightning Bolt”
Superstars • November 14, 1992

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
Money Inc. vs. Ultimate Warrior & Macho Man Randy Savage
Saturday Night’s Main Event • November 14, 1992

Reestablish

“Faster Than a Cheetah”
RAW • March 11, 1996

Ultimate Warrior vs. Hunter Hearst Helmsley
WrestleMania XII • March 31, 1996

Warrior Confronts Goldust
RAW • April 8, 1996

Ultimate Warrior Returns!

Vince McMahon Interviews Jerry “The King” Lawler and Ultimate Warrior
RAW • June 10, 1996

Ultimate Warrior vs. Jerry the King Lawler
King of the Ring • June 23, 1996

Going to WCW

Ultimate Warrior Interrupts Hollywood Hogan
Nitro • August 17 1998

Replusive

Ultimate Warrior Promo
Nitro • October 26, 1998

The Right Story

It should've been a documentary. I hate the "Talk for 5 minutes then show the next match" format.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Sheamus works better as a heel, but is much more engaging IMO as a face. It's weird.

 

[Van Petrol]

 

[Lobo]

Who do you guys think will be the next woman inducted to the WWE hall of fame?

Miss Elizabeth?
Luna Vachon?
Madusa?
Victoria?
Mickie James?

 

[Wheels]

No babyfaces have fire anymore. It's like they all are trying to be chilled out most of the time. Where's the heat building? Where are the personal issues? Punk's feud with Heyman is how you do it. Stuff like Roberts vs Rude, Hart vs Michaels, Austin vs Hart, Flair vs Funk, Flair vs Rhodes, Savage vs Flair, Michaels vs Jericho, Raven vs Dreamer, Raven vs Sandman, Foley vs Triple H, Foley vs Orton. etc. Where's the intensity and drama? Where's the passionate hate?

 

[Dr. Evil]

So what are the chances Sting actually shows up in a WWE ring?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

So what are the chances Sting actually shows up in a WWE ring?

Slim to none.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Slim to none.

This is probably the case.

 

[Dr. Evil]

It has already started:

http://www.wwe.com/videos/guardians-of-the-galaxy-in-theaters-aug-1-2014-26183191

 

[chamber-music]

Is Miz a face or Heel? because I honestly can't tell anymore.

 

[Slushy]

Who do you guys think will be the next woman inducted to the WWE hall of fame?

Miss Elizabeth?
Luna Vachon?
Madusa?
Victoria?
Mickie James?

Stacy Kiebler lol

 

[Dr. Evil]

One of the things I like about NXT is that from time-to-time they bring in guest instructors. I know that Lance Storm has been a frequent guest instructor.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Lance Storm trained Emma for those who don't know.

 

[Specter313]

Who do you guys think will be the next woman inducted to the WWE hall of fame?

Miss Elizabeth?
Luna Vachon?
Madusa?
Victoria?
Mickie James?

I would like it if Liz and Randy were inducted together, but it'll probably never happen.

 

[runawayboulder]

Is Miz a face or Heel? because I honestly can't tell anymore.

I think they're trying to make him some kind of anti-hero face that's tired of being held down by the company. Supposedly he's getting paired up with Ziggler.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Good thing the WWE did not try to sign a Russian wrestler and then bill him from Kazakhstan.

 

[Warhammer]

Wrestling is about stereotypes, and anyone who goes into that industry accepts that, to some degree. I think a mythical Celtic gimmick would go over the heads of a lot of the audience; WWE Raw is no time for an anthropology lesson. Besides, magic-based gimmicks haven't had the best track record (Papa Shango, Fantasio, Mordecai).

That character was going somewhere. That dude got the short end of the stick when they rebranded him as Kevin Thorne. He was a broke ass Gangrel.

Lance Storm trained Emma for those who don't know.

She's going to be pretty damn good then.