The Dark Knight Intensity of Fight sequences in TDK!

[CristoTheSecond]

I have no idea why it's become so ****ing trendy to make fight-scenes in movies these days at such close range! The camera is always in close-up so you can't focus on **** and the only thing it provides is a headache! They also did it in TransFormers as it's ****ing annoying!

I truely hope that they pan out the camera for the fight-scenes in TDK! They searched the globe for a unique fighting-style to be used in BB, and when they finally found it, what did they do!? They went in for a total close-up so you can't see what's going on; then tell me, what's the freaken POINT!?

If they pan out the camera for the fights in TDK, than the intensity WILL follow! I hope we get some glimpses of this in the next trailer!

Yeah, but Transformers wasn't a good enough movie to pull it off IMO.

 

[A Dark Knight]

I think the fights scenes should be shot the same as Casino Royale, particularly the stairwell fight. That was brutal yet easy to follow.

I agree 100%, I like to actually see and be able to follow what is going on during the fight, bring on Bats vs The Joker in that style.

 

[ultimatefan]

Sorry if this has already been posted, but it´s interesting:

http://www.keysikfm.com/darkknight.php

Christian Bale
Batman / Bruce Wayne

“We’ve gone a bit further with Keysi (…). I’m actually learning how to do it more realistically than ever before, though it’s such an extreme way of fighting; there are literally moves where you tear someone’s cheek away from their face, or rip their nose off – every part of you becomes a weapon. It’s formidable. Batman doesn’t kill, so we can’t have hime doing that; we modify it. ”

 

[Gianakin_]

Hm, no comment about the way they're gonna be shot, though... We'll see. I REALLY hope we'll be able to get a glimpse this time.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

“We’ve gone a bit further with Keysi (…). I’m actually learning how to do it more realistically than ever before, though it’s such an extreme way of fighting; there are literally moves where you tear someone’s cheek away from their face, or rip their nose off – every part of you becomes a weapon. It’s formidable. Batman doesn’t kill, so we can’t have hime doing that; we modify it. ”

Ouchie.

 

[saint sinner x]

Alot of people are expecting improvements of the fighting in this one, also on the action. Does Nolan even knows his batfans didn't like the editing of the fighting???

 

[saint sinner x]

As a matter of fact, and I was actually contemplating on this. No one till are knowledge will be physicaly threatnening to batman in tdk. So, don't expect to see crazy fighting, because no one is at the same skill level as bats to give him some challenge, the most we'll see will probably be bats taking out many many mobster thugs like in the first scenes of batman begins. Meaning, they would have to emphasize on the aciton and let's face it, Nolan sucks at directing action. Someone should go up to him and tell him in his face, and WB should of hired an action direction to compliment Nolan. Good Action, Great Fighting, With Good Story line= PERFECT BATMAN MOVIE. It's batman dammit, the bad ass fighter of DCU. SHOW OFF HIS SKILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hole Shot]

I know the fight at the docks was a blur, but I'll give Nolan a pass on that one because I loved the scene as a whole.

Personally, I liked how he took on the Ninjas at the train, at Arkham when swooped in and out of the shadows picking guys off and then on of my favorites is when his arm comes out of nowhere and smashes that thugs face into the mirror.

 

[The Joker]

I didn't find any of the fight sequences intense in BB. I hope TDK rectifies that.

 

[Nepenthes]

I found it intense when Rachael slapped him in the car. Twice. it gave me satisfaction

 

[Crook]

Satisfaction......in the pants?

 

[GoogleMe94]

yeah, the BB fights i think we can all agree were less then satisfactory. we need to be able to SEE the fights, not just random editing with a foot flying here and an arm slapping there. i couldnt keep up, still cant. they have to pull back the camera so that we can see whats going on. i want to see something like that opening in Forever when batman is fighting those twoface thugs, that was good fight sequence because you could see everything.

 

[Gianakin_]

Agreed on pulling back, disagree 100% on the fight scenes loking anything like in BF or B&R. These were bad fight scenes. You could see everything all right: all of the bad and fake moves. Schumacher should have shot more closely and edited tight, and Nolan should have pulled back.
That way both movies would have satisfactory fights.

 

[Gotham]

Nolan and Wally need to pull out on the sequences a tad bit more, especially so we can get a wide look at everything the Joker is doing.

Then again. I liked the reason for the fighting. We actually feel like we're in the middle with Batman as he battles the first *real* crooks.

 

[GoogleMe94]

Agreed on pulling back, disagree 100% on the fight scenes loking anything like in BF or B&R. These were bad fight scenes. You could see everything all right: all of the bad and fake moves. Schumacher should have shot more closely and edited tight, and Nolan should have pulled back.
That way both movies would have satisfactory fights.

hey, whatever floats your boat. i thought the batman jumping from the elevator and fighting those thugs was a cool fight scene, even if you thought it looked "fake". i thought the begins fights looked fake too because of how badly shot they were.

and nolan, please, no flying batman anymore. batman....doesnt fly.

 

[Gianakin_]

So, if you could barely see anything in BB, how could you find them fake? While in BF you can see 2-3 times where Batman's leg doesn't even touch the goon's face when he kicks.

 

[jsf]

batman is gunna come at joker like a spidermonkey

 

[Figs]

hey, whatever floats your boat. i thought the batman jumping from the elevator and fighting those thugs was a cool fight scene, even if you thought it looked "fake". i thought the begins fights looked fake too because of how badly shot they were.

and nolan, please, no flying batman anymore. batman....doesnt fly.

It's funny to say they looked fake when the shots were edited at a very fast pace. Just doesn't make sense, it works only the other way around. Were it's so slow and setup you can see were the punch is pulled and guy pretends to get hit.

As for the flying.............I guess we could have it like the comics were when he does "fly" he uses a full on hang glider.

 

[Crook]

As for the flying.............I guess we could have it like the comics were when he does "fly" he uses a full on hang glider.

Or just have him not fly at all.

 

[sasquatchs]

It's funny to say they looked fake when the shots were edited at a very fast pace. Just doesn't make sense, it works only the other way around. Were it's so slow and setup you can see were the punch is pulled and guy pretends to get hit.

Not really, when it's edited that fast you wonder what they're hiding. Or trying to create out of nothing. The stunt guys could have been waving their arms around randomly for all we know t:

Still, wasn't a bad idea, to me it just needs refining

 

[Joe-ker]

The feeling of confusion they were going for with the fast paced shaky-cam stuff was obvious... but they very well could've been hiding some good stunt-work. With the filming budget these movies have, I doubt they spare expense on their stunt guys and trainers... they just need to better display their abilities with the photography.

 

[saint sinner x]

Is Nolan Aware That The Majority Doesn"t Like His Style Of Editing The Fights????????????????????

 

[redlion2]

I think the fighting style and the intensity was just fine. Just pull the damn camera back so we can see what the hell is going on.

 

[Joe-ker]

I think the fighting style and the intensity was just fine. Just pull the damn camera back so we can see what the hell is going on.

What he said ^^^^^

 

[GoogleMe94]

Question: why, in the scene in the bat-cave where Batman glides to and/or from the batmobile, is the framing so close-up? Like from the shoulders up? It's a grand, graceful, majestic motion, it should be seen as such. There's no-one else around so it's not any BS about showing things from crook's perspective, which is the automatic defense of the framing and editing of the film.

There's another scene towards the end of the film where Batman glides towards the camera and then lands in a fairly tight shot. It's in 2 shots when it so desperately feels like it should be in 1. It's like the middle part of one longer shot has been cut out, creating an annoying jump.

Those are just 2 minor things but the whole film is like that. Nolan simply does not seem to want to balance close-up, choppy action with longer, smoother takes. It's just, IMO just a fundamentally huge mistake, not to show the grand, romantic, heroic aspect of Batman in contrast to the shaky and confusing stuff.

i totally agree. and i know exactly what you mean about that weird kinda akward "jump" when hes gliding to and from the batmobile in his cave. that part when you see his front as he glides back down, it looked horribly fake, like he was rolling on wheels downwards or something. it was just...weird.