Iron Fist Iron fist Costume thread

[Dark Raven]

Christ, don't even tempt fate - I can see it now, all of them in a room together and D/D looks around and thinks 'OK, maybe I'm dressed a little weird here' and stops wearing his costume.

They're going to end up as a bunch of civilians who are just public defenders.

DD would look out of place now suited up. Can't he just give Rand his old proto costume from season 1? Even if in black, it would still look better and more like Iron Fist than what Rand is wearing in his own series.

 

[superman-mos]

I wanted to see Iron Fist suited up , unlike Daredevil his costume comes with being the Iron Fist , it's ceremonial . The colors , the mask , all of it is a part of being the immortal weapon . As much as I love Iron Fist I've never been a big fan of his original costume , it is very dated . However I would have been fine with a lose adaptation of it until he decides to upgrade to a version of Aja's design or even the track suit version ( which I like ). The whole "we couldn't come up with a reason for him to wear it" excuse makes zero sense to me . Like have you read the comics ? There doesn't need to be a long drawn out excuse as to why he wears it , it's a part of his title as Iron Fist , it's the wardrobe of the the immortal weapon , its traditional and ceremonial . If people accept Steve Rogers running around in red white and blue then people will be ok with this as well. You can only ground these characters in so much realism before you start to lose what makes them great . This is a guy trained in a mystical city by immortal Kung Fu masters and fights a dragon to become the immortal weapon that is Iron Fist , your not gonna make that very real and it's ok because that's what the fans love about it , it's an escape from reality

 

[TheVileOne]

Christ, don't even tempt fate - I can see it now, all of them in a room together and D/D looks around and thinks 'OK, maybe I'm dressed a little weird here' and stops wearing his costume.

legit lol

 

[GeckoMoria]

I wanted to see Iron Fist suited up , unlike Daredevil his costume comes with being the Iron Fist , it's ceremonial . The colors , the mask , all of it is a part of being the immortal weapon . As much as I love Iron Fist I've never been a big fan of his original costume , it is very dated . However I would have been fine with a lose adaptation of it until he decides to upgrade to a version of Aja's design or even the track suit version ( which I like ). The whole "we couldn't come up with a reason for him to wear it" excuse makes zero sense to me . Like have you read the comics ? There doesn't need to be a long drawn out excuse as to why he wears it , it's a part of his title as Iron Fist , it's the wardrobe of the the immortal weapon , its traditional and ceremonial . If people accept Steve Rogers running around in red white and blue then people will be ok with this as well. You can only ground these characters in so much realism before you start to lose what makes them great . This is a guy trained in a mystical city by immortal Kung Fu masters and fights a dragon to become the immortal weapon that is Iron Fist , your not gonna make that very real and it's ok because that's what the fans love about it , it's an escape from reality

Sorry, but no. I get that you want to see the costume but trying to make it seem that not giving the main character a piece of fabric will alter his essence in any way is ridiculous. They can nail Danny rand without putting him in green pijamas for even one second during the first season.

It's just that some of you really want to see the costume. That's it. Fromn where i'm standing most of the vital elements are there. Dragon, iron fist that channels chi and mystical city thats' in another dimensions. So they not butchering the mythos. They are just not giving him the costume YET....

 

[Dasher10]

I wanted to see Iron Fist suited up , unlike Daredevil his costume comes with being the Iron Fist , it's ceremonial . The colors , the mask , all of it is a part of being the immortal weapon . As much as I love Iron Fist I've never been a big fan of his original costume , it is very dated . However I would have been fine with a lose adaptation of it until he decides to upgrade to a version of Aja's design or even the track suit version ( which I like ). The whole "we couldn't come up with a reason for him to wear it" excuse makes zero sense to me . Like have you read the comics ? There doesn't need to be a long drawn out excuse as to why he wears it , it's a part of his title as Iron Fist , it's the wardrobe of the the immortal weapon , its traditional and ceremonial . If people accept Steve Rogers running around in red white and blue then people will be ok with this as well. You can only ground these characters in so much realism before you start to lose what makes them great . This is a guy trained in a mystical city by immortal Kung Fu masters and fights a dragon to become the immortal weapon that is Iron Fist , your not gonna make that very real and it's ok because that's what the fans love about it , it's an escape from reality

Exactly. If audiences can accept a talking tree, invincible ex-con, giant green rage monster, norse god, blind ninjutsu master, gun toting raccoon, a cult of devil-worshippers who can raise the dead, a 100-year-old undead super soldier and Scarlet Johansson as a Russian, they can accept a guy wearing a green tracksuit with yellow mask and belt. Like I find it astounding that with all the fantastic elements in the MCU, Iron Fist wearing a mask is where the line is drawn as far as what's simply too silly for the MCU.

 

[Dark Raven]

Sorry, but no. I get that you want to see the costume but trying to make it seem that not giving the main character a piece of fabric will alter his essence in any way is ridiculous. They can nail Danny rand without putting him in green pijamas for even one second during the first season.

It's just that some of you really want to see the costume. That's it. Fromn where i'm standing most of the vital elements are there. Dragon, iron fist that channels chi and mystical city thats' in another dimensions. So they not butchering the mythos. They are just not giving him the costume YET....

Films or shows have given us these elements before and not even been Iron Fist though or even a comic-related franchise. So if we've had it all before in other martial arts media, it's nothing new here at all, and there's nothing here to distinguish it from any of these previous offerings except for the change in names.

 

[Sundancer]

Sorry, but no. I get that you want to see the costume but trying to make it seem that not giving the main character a piece of fabric will alter his essence in any way is ridiculous. They can nail Danny rand without putting him in green pijamas for even one second during the first season.

It's just that some of you really want to see the costume. That's it. From where i'm standing most of the vital elements are there. Dragon, iron fist that channels chi and mystical city thats' in another dimensions. So they not butchering the mythos. They are just not giving him the costume YET....

As supermnan-mos and I were saying--it's not actually a costume. He doesn't need to wear it to fight crime, but some acknowledgment to the attire is not far-fetched.

I just don't agree with the show-runner's statement that it can't be worked in.

 

[Tymminator]

Ugh.

Whatever. I don't buy those excuses either.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Remember the dark days when Hollywood was ashamed of featuring some of the more fantastical elements in comicbook movie/tv adaptions as there was a perception that they were 'hokey'?

We all thought that attitude was a thing of the past but it seems that Scott Buck et al seem to be of that school of thought.

 

[Dark Raven]

Remember the dark days when Hollywood was ashamed of featuring some of the more fantastical elements in comicbook movie/tv adaptions as there was a perception that they were 'hokey'?

We all thought that attitude was a thing of the past but it seems that Scott Buck et al seem to be of that school of thought.

It's like he was frozen in suspended animation from the 80s and has just come out and still has an X-Men 2000 mentality. And the thing is everyone else would buy into Singer's arguments about how these costumes could possibly work and why would they wear such "ridiculous" clothing like that. Because of that attitude, even the designs for Spider-Man's first movie were originally going to be toned down and not look very classic.

Raimi's Spider-Man saved the genre from everyone jumping on the Singer bandwagon. But now we've got Scott Buck in the 20th Century, frozen from the year 1987.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yup, in a nutshell.

**** me I'm disappointed, and I haven't even watched the series yet (!). I know I shouldn't jump the gun and all but still, its not looking good. Of all of them this was the one Marvel Netflix series that I hoped would be awesome, given all the cool ingredients inherent in IF. But it seems that they threw out the cook book and used their own recipe.

 

[3dman27]

Remember the dark days when Hollywood was ashamed of featuring some of the more fantastical elements in comicbook movie/tv adaptions as there was a perception that they were 'hokey'?

We all thought that attitude was a thing of the past but it seems that Scott Buck et al seem to be of that school of thought.

I have to agree on that
why make a super hero show if you consider the concept immature ?

 

[Dark Raven]

I have to agree on that
why make a super hero show if you consider the concept immature ?

He sounds like the modern-day equivalent of Kenneth Johnson who developed and produced the Incredible Hulk TV series from the 1970s. He thought much of the concept was too hokey and got rid of the more fantastical elements. He even wanted the Hulk to be red instead of green, because he thought red was the colour of anger. And he is responsible for getting rid of Hulk's speech, a problem that has plagued all live action adaptations of the Hulk to this day where creators and the audience think that it would be too unbelievable to have Hulk speak (even when you now have a talking raccoon or the occasional talking tree who speaks more than Hulk ever does).

What they needed for this series is someone who has worked on a fantasy show before or a martial arts series. Someone who had worked on a Mortal Kombat series would've been suitable. Whatever possessed them to get Scott Buck of all people?

Even someone who had worked on Arrow for the CW would've been appropriate. Because that has the same concept of a billionaire coming back from exile for a few years with newfound martial arts skills. And even in Arrow Season 1 he wore a basic costume which has since developed. Is the Arrow concept too difficult to execute for Iron Fist? IF should be everything that show is and then some, not Arrow-lite.

 

[BatsDC]

Supposedly the big struggle Marvel and Netflix were having was how fantastical they should make it, going for Buck because he brought an approach that was grounded enough for them to be comfortable with. The blame for the watering down of the mythology and fantasy elements can't entirely rest on Buck's shoulders because it seems they were never interested in going full-on with the fantasy elements; his pitch was picked up because of how grounded it was.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Supposedly the big struggle Marvel and Netflix were having was how fantastical they should make it, going for Buck because he brought an approach that was grounded enough for them to be comfortable with. The blame for the watering down of the mythology and fantasy elements can't entirely rest on Buck's shoulders because it seems they were never interested in going full-on with the fantasy elements; his pitch was picked up because of how grounded it was.

Exactly. Marvel wanted it grounded the whole time. Reports heavily indicate that

 

[Web-Head]

Supposedly the big struggle Marvel and Netflix were having was how fantastical they should make it, going for Buck because he brought an approach that was grounded enough for them to be comfortable with. The blame for the watering down of the mythology and fantasy elements can't entirely rest on Buck's shoulders because it seems they were never interested in going full-on with the fantasy elements; his pitch was picked up because of how grounded it was.

Exactly. Which is why I think those reports that Marvel didn't really know what to do with Iron Fist were true.

 

[TheVileOne]

In 1989 they didn't want Dolph Lundgren to wear the Punisher skull because they thought it looked stupid. I feel like we've returned to that mentality.

IMHO it's a miracle that Daredevil wears his mask and costume at all.

 

[3dman27]

In 1989 they didn't want Dolph Lundgren to wear the Punisher skull because they thought it looked stupid. I feel like we've returned to that mentality.

IMHO it's a miracle that Daredevil wears his mask and costume at all.

agreed

 

[Dark Raven]

In 1989 they didn't want Dolph Lundgren to wear the Punisher skull because they thought it looked stupid. I feel like we've returned to that mentality.

IMHO it's a miracle that Daredevil wears his mask and costume at all.

It will be a miracle if he continues to wear it by the end of Defenders or if he joins everyone else with their non-costumed look because he thinks he's too conspicuous and fantastical.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It will be a miracle if he continues to wear it by the end of Defenders or if he joins everyone else with their non-costumed look because he thinks he's too conspicuous and fantastical.

Daredevil walks into the room, full costume. He looks around, sees no one else wearing one. Then says "I look like a complete idiot!" and junks it, LOL! t:

That better not happen!!!

 

[Lencho01]

Daredevil walks into the room, full costume. He looks around, sees no one else wearing one. Then says "I look like a complete idiot!" and junks it, LOL! t:

That better not happen!!!

I would be shocked and not shocked if that happened.

 

[TheVileOne]

Daredevil walks into the room, full costume. He looks around, sees no one else wearing one. Then says "I look like a complete idiot!" and junks it, LOL! t:

That better not happen!!!

Yeah even with his blindness he'd be able to tell because of his radar sense .

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah even with his blindness he'd be able to tell because of his radar sense .

LOL!!!! His radar sense makes him keenly aware of fashion t:

 

[Dasher10]

He sounds like the modern-day equivalent of Kenneth Johnson who developed and produced the Incredible Hulk TV series from the 1970s. He thought much of the concept was too hokey and got rid of the more fantastical elements. He even wanted the Hulk to be red instead of green, because he thought red was the colour of anger. And he is responsible for getting rid of Hulk's speech, a problem that has plagued all live action adaptations of the Hulk to this day where creators and the audience think that it would be too unbelievable to have Hulk speak (even when you now have a talking raccoon or the occasional talking tree who speaks more than Hulk ever does).

What they needed for this series is someone who has worked on a fantasy show before or a martial arts series. Someone who had worked on a Mortal Kombat series would've been suitable. Whatever possessed them to get Scott Buck of all people?

Even someone who had worked on Arrow for the CW would've been appropriate. Because that has the same concept of a billionaire coming back from exile for a few years with newfound martial arts skills. And even in Arrow Season 1 he wore a basic costume which has since developed. Is the Arrow concept too difficult to execute for Iron Fist? IF should be everything that show is and then some, not Arrow-lite.

Kevin Tencharoen is directing an episode and he did do a Mortal Kombat short and alter on a Mortal Kombat webseries. IMO, since Buck is busy with Inhumans, Jeph Loeb should kick him off the show and make Kevin the showrunner since he actually does have experience with handling the financial aspects of a modern day, semi-grounded wuxia series and also directed an episode of Iron Fist. And his sister is one of the showrunners on Agents of SHIELD. Like, Marvel really made a boneheadedly stupid decision that cost them greatly by choosing Scott Buck.

And it's not even a white Iron Fist since Doctor Strange brings the same baggage with him but critics still loved it. Iron Fist needed to embrace the fact that it's a martial arts action series and not be an office drama.

 

[Darepool]

Johnson also changed Banner's name to David because he didn't want the series to be seen as a comic book show....hmmm

CBS also thought the name Bruce sounded too gay.