Iron Man question

[Chris Wallace]

Have his actions during Civil War hurt your perception of the character or put you off him at all?

 

[hippie_hunter]

No his actions has made me annoyed with Marvel by turning him into the biggest *****ebag possible so that they can villainize the Pro-Reg side.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Fair enough.

 

[Darthphere]

No his actions has made me annoyed with Marvel by turning him into the biggest *****ebag possible so that they can villainize the Pro-Reg side.

Nah, they did that a long time ago.

 

[The Question]

Tony always turns into a paranoid, defensive, deceitful, alienatic dick when he's under pressure. Anyone remember the Armor Wars?

 

[hippie_hunter]

Nah, they did that a long time ago.

I don't think his prevous actions out do his current actions such as building a prison in the Negative Zone, betraying and turning in Spider-Woman, going buddy-buddy with Maria Hill and what I like to call Evil SHIELD, turning Spider-Man into his personal b***h, paying Titanium Man to attack Washington DC, and sending Hulk off into space

 

[Darthphere]

I don't think his prevous actions out do his current actions such as building a prison in the Negative Zone, betraying and turning in Spider-Woman, going buddy-buddy with Maria Hill and what I like to call Evil SHIELD, turning Spider-Man into his personal b***h, paying Titanium Man to attack Washington DC, and sending Hulk off into space

Nah, its the same thing.

 

[The Question]

I don't think his prevous actions out do his current actions such as building a prison in the Negative Zone, betraying and turning in Spider-Woman, going buddy-buddy with Maria Hill and what I like to call Evil SHIELD, turning Spider-Man into his personal b***h, paying Titanium Man to attack Washington DC, and sending Hulk off into space

Dude. Armor Wars. He went around beating up ever person with high tech armorized equipment because he went paranoid after finding out that the Crimson Dynamo stole his designs.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't think his prevous actions out do his current actions such as building a prison in the Negative Zone, betraying and turning in Spider-Woman, going buddy-buddy with Maria Hill and what I like to call Evil SHIELD, turning Spider-Man into his personal b***h, paying Titanium Man to attack Washington DC, and sending Hulk off into space

The Spider-Man part is what bothers me the most.

 

[Red]

He's always been an ass. Heck, in truth thats why I like him he's such a flawed hero, he even puts Spidey to shame in that respect.

 

[Darthphere]

The Spider-Man part is what bothers me the most.

Thats Peter's fault for being so easily manipulated.

 

[Sawyer]

I don't get it whats he done thats so bad?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't get it whats he done thats so bad?

Read hippie hunter's list.

 

[Red]

When was the Negative Zone prison revealed?

 

[Chris Wallace]

Thats Peter's fault for being so easily manipulated.

The unmasking, yes. Everything prior to that was just him thinking Tony-a fellow hero, a founding member of the Avengers, had his best interests at heart.

 

[hippie_hunter]

When was the Negative Zone prison revealed?

Civil War: Frontline

 

[Chris Wallace]

When was the Negative Zone prison revealed?

Front Line # 5.

 

[Red]

I really should start buying the tie-ins.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

The most annoying thing is that he's in EVERY book, even bloody Eternals. Jeez, Marvel, sort it out.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Frontline is the worst in making the pro-Reg side a bunch of *****ers. Hell, the only thing that would make them look even worse was if they ate a baby while kicking a puppy

One the other hand, the rest of the Civil War tie-ins are pretty good. I like them better than the Infinite Crisis tie-ins which were just stories that gave full detail to what happened in a panel or two in the main Infinite Crisis series. The Civil War tie-ins give more of a perspective of the characters in Civil War.

 

[Chris Wallace]

In all fairness, the Registration Act goes against the whole idea behind superheroes. Ergo, any superhero who fully & eagerly supported it would be a *****e, since he was turning on his lifelong comrades & spitting on everything they stood for.

 

[Willowhugger]

Armor Wars was about how Tony will never allow his weapons to be used to kill people under any circumstances. He became the Secretary of State to shut down the USA from using Iron Man technology to kill. This is a man whom has a serious hate-hate relationship with the government.

He's also a pacifist so no, I consider it hugely bad writing.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Isnt a pacifist someone who doesn't want to fight? How can a superhero really be a pacifist??

 

[hippie_hunter]

In all fairness, the Registration Act goes against the whole idea behind superheroes. Ergo, any superhero who fully & eagerly supported it would be a *****e, since he was turning on his lifelong comrades & spitting on everything they stood for.

How does it go against the idea of superheroes. This act is designed to regain the trust of the public for the superheroes. It is also designed to prevent another Samford from happening (which wouldn't have happened if Speedball and the New Warriors used poor judgement to attack Nitro)

 

[Willowhugger]

Technically, pacifist can also mean those who don't kill which only Tony takes to extremes.