The Death of Iron Man

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

No .... i made it quite clear someone with youre level of intellect would never understand. Do they not have the word 'comparisson' , from whatever cave u come from ?

Yes we do make comparisons from this lavishly funished cave I live in. However, when we do make comparisons they actually have something to do with the topic of the thread, unlike you.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I think carol Danvers should screw him to death.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

He's been there and done that pre-Extremis. He went along just fine.

 

[The Geek Vault]

I like the punsiher.

 

[Anubis]

I like pizza.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I like firearms.

 

[Fading]

I'm sorry, I just haven't been able to deal with the drivel Marvel has been putting out these last couple years. Could someone explain why there is all this hate for IronMan?

More or less recently he's hired villains to attack to further his point.
He hired some of the most homicidal villains to be the new Thunderbolts.
He's the leader of the pro-reg side.
He's permentally imprisoning hero's who don't sign.
He and Reed have cloned Thor and possibly many other hero's.
A retcon of sorts happened to say the first time he met Thor he collected one of his hair samples from the seat Thor sat on.
He's making a profit off of the company that started the whole CW thing with the MGH they supplied to Nitro...atleast I'm pretty sure he is, or there was a quote there about him making a profit, but don't think he cared.
Recently sicked two of the Thunderbolts on Spiderman and they almost killed him.
Was one of the main ones voting to send Hulk far away in space with the Illuminati.
Part of the Illuminati that has apparently been running the MU for years, and brought up the idea to start the SHRA bill that made CW happen.
Burried Bill (Goliath) and didn't bother to shrink him down, and basically just tossed a tarp on him that only half covered him.

P.S. this isn't a complaint, just honestly answering him. Second CW's over if they make IM more like he was before CW I'll be happy to look past CW and enjoy his books again like nothing happened.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

More or less recently he's hired villains to attack to further his point.
He hired some of the most homicidal villains to be the new Thunderbolts.
He's the leader of the pro-reg side.
He's permentally imprisoning hero's who don't sign.
He and Reed have cloned Thor and possibly many other hero's.
A retcon of sorts happened to say the first time he met Thor he collected one of his hair samples from the seat Thor sat on.
He's making a profit off of the company that started the whole CW thing with the MGH they supplied to Nitro...atleast I'm pretty sure he is, or there was a quote there about him making a profit, but don't think he cared.
Recently sicked two of the Thunderbolts on Spiderman and they almost killed him.
Was one of the main ones voting to send Hulk far away in space with the Illuminati.
Part of the Illuminati that has apparently been running the MU for years, and brought up the idea to start the SHRA bill that made CW happen.
Burried Bill (Goliath) and didn't bother to shrink him down, and basically just tossed a tarp on him that only half covered him.

P.S. this isn't a complaint, just honestly answering him. Second CW's over if they make IM more like he was before CW I'll be happy to look past CW and enjoy his books again like nothing happened.

Answers usually have explanations.

 

[IronMan_2005]

I'm sorry, I just haven't been able to deal with the drivel Marvel has been putting out these last couple years. Could someone explain why there is all this hate for IronMan?

Idiot writers making him out be an ass, and idiot fanboys taking shyt too serious.

 

[3dman27]

getting back on topic
remember the abandond pete /tony &mj triangle if tony'd persuaded mj to ,shall we say come to him, SHED have caused him a fatal heart attack which would also get her out of the picture with her being jailed for tony's death

 

[hippie_hunter]

If Busiek ever goes on the title, you can bet your ass that's the first thing that would happen.

Don't you mean Winick

That or make him gay.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I'm sorry, I just haven't been able to deal with the drivel Marvel has been putting out these last couple years. Could someone explain why there is all this hate for IronMan?

Because he's leading the Superhuman Task Force in Civil War which is acting rather villainous.

- Recruiting supervillains such as Bullseye, the Green Goblin, Venom, and dozens of others to fight for his cause.

- Cloning Thor resulting in the death of Goliath

- Beating the crap out of Captain America and Spider-Man

- Turning Spider-Man into his personal biznich

- Ratting out Spider-Woman

- Eating babies

- Arresting his own friends

- Kicking puppies

- Being an ally of Interim Executive Director Maria Hill and President George W. Bush

- Having contracts similar to Haliburtons for Stark Industries

- Entering soverign Inhuman territory

- Developing a Guantanmo-esque prison in the Negative Zone

- Sending the Hulk into space which caused him to be inslaved on the planet Sakaar and leading a rebellion there, causing instability on the planet

- Telling Wolverine not to go after Nitro

 

[hippie_hunter]

.He's making a profit off of the company that started the whole CW thing with the MGH they supplied to Nitro...atleast I'm pretty sure he is, or there was a quote there about him making a profit, but don't think he cared.

Iron Man was not making a profit off of Damage Control, Walter Declun was the one profiting off of and causing disaster and Wolverine killed him.

Burried Bill (Goliath) and didn't bother to shrink him down, and basically just tossed a tarp on him that only half covered him.

They tried to shrink him down but couldn't. He then paid for all of the funeral expenses because he felt responsible for his death.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Because he's leading the Superhuman Task Force in Civil War which is acting rather villainous.

- Recruiting supervillains such as Bullseye, the Green Goblin, Venom, and dozens of others to fight for his cause.

- Cloning Thor resulting in the death of Goliath

- Beating the crap out of Captain America and Spider-Man

- Turning Spider-Man into his personal biznich

- Ratting out Spider-Woman

- Eating babies

- Arresting his own friends

- Kicking puppies

- Being an ally of Interim Executive Director Maria Hill and President George W. Bush

- Having contracts similar to Haliburtons for Stark Industries

- Entering soverign Inhuman territory

- Developing a Guantanmo-esque prison in the Negative Zone

- Sending the Hulk into space which caused him to be inslaved on the planet Sakaar and leading a rebellion there, causing instability on the planet

- Telling Wolverine not to go after Nitro

Half of those are justifiable, and some aren't true. (Obviously)

 

[ssj wolverine]

Instead of killing Iron Man why not have him ass raped by the Hulk?

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I think carol Danvers should screw him to death.

I love the Cap'n! (but that would be far too good a fate for most men!)

But the endgame in this will determine if this is crap writing or not. If this isn't Doom or the Skull messing with Tony and Reed's sensibilities or some other explanation of why two of the longest-term Marvel heroes are acting like totalitarian FREAKS... then Civil War is just garbage.

And I can think of something with the initials JQ who deserves DEATH a helluva lot more than Tony.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Half of those are justifiable, and some aren't true. (Obviously)

O'rly

- Recruiting supervillains such as Bullseye, the Green Goblin, Venom, and dozens of others to fight for his cause.
Creating a rip-off of the Suicide Squad is going to screw the Superhuman Task Force over sooner or later. Also, the Punisher allied himself with the Secret Avengers because the government is recruiting criminals to hunt down heroes.

- Cloning Thor resulting in the death of Goliath
Cloning is a felony in the United States and he not only cloned a dear friend of his, the clone killed another friend of his.

- Beating the crap out of Captain America and Spider-Man
He nearly killed Captain America and then sent the new Thunderbolts after him, and they were going to kill Spider-Man if it weren't for S.H.I.E.L.D. ordering them not to go any further on harming Spider-Man and for the Punisher killing them

- Turning Spider-Man into his personal biznich
This was more of a character ass-raping for Spider-Man.

- Ratting out Spider-Woman
Spider-Woman was his own fudging teammate and showed no signs of co-operating with the Secret Avengers, she was co-operating with Nick Fury. She trusted him!

- Eating babies
Okay, this is an overexageration but it's bound to happen

- Arresting his own friends
He's going after Spider-Man, Captain America, the Human Torch, the Invisible Woman, Spider-Woman, Luke Cage, Falcon, and others. People whom he has worked with, respected, and committed themselves to fighting injustice just as much as he has. He's formed friendships with many of those people and he just tosses them aside.

- Kicking puppies
Another exaggeration, but you get my point

- Being an ally of Interim Executive Director Maria Hill and President George W. Bush
Hill's a b***h and George Bush is supposed to be evil in the eyes of liberals like Mark Millar

- Having contracts similar to Haliburtons for Stark Industries
A little fishy huh?

- Entering soverign Inhuman territory
Considering that he's an employee of the U.S. Government and he enters into Inhuman territory while the Inhumans are in a cold war with the United States...

- Developing a Guantanmo-esque prison in the Negative Zone
This prison is even worse than Guantanamo and unlike the bastards who somewhat deserve it, those who are imprisoned in the 42 complex really don't deserve such a punishment

- Sending the Hulk into space which caused him to be inslaved on the planet Sakaar and leading a rebellion there, causing instability on the planet
This speaks for itself

- Telling Wolverine not to go after Nitro
Along with getting heroes to register, they should have went after Nitro too.

Honestly I think the delay of Civil War for McNiven's art is a load of bulls**t. I think they delayed it because they forced Mark Millar to rewrite the story to make Iron Man and the Superhuman Task Force come off less villainous and *****ey. Look at the Iron Man tie-in to Civil War where he shows that he is disgusted by nearly every politician that supports registration, or Civil War #4 where he shows remorse over Goliath's death.

I think that Marvel realised that the writers went too far in villainizing the Superhuman Task Force and the Superhuman Registration Act that they forced the delay for re-writes in order to humanize those who support registration.

 

[3dman27]

O'rly



Honestly I think the delay of Civil War for McNiven's art is a load of bulls**t. I think they delayed it because they forced Mark Millar to rewrite the story to make Iron Man and the Superhuman Task Force come off less villainous and *****ey. Look at the Iron Man tie-in to Civil War where he shows that he is disgusted by nearly every politician that supports registration, or Civil War #4 where he shows remorse over Goliath's death.

I think that Marvel realised that the writers went too far in villainizing the Superhuman Task Force and the Superhuman Registration Act that they forced the delay for re-writes in order to humanize those who support registration.

i HOPE marvel is forcing a rewrite as is this storyling looks like a "v for vendetta "with superheroes UGH

 

[ISHMAEL]

4 choices...

1: Peter beats the crap out of him after some really tragic event that will make sure his life changes forever and ever and is never going to be the same again X10, but in the end, he still refuses to kill him and walks away. That's when Cap comes by and just says "**** it! you've had your chance to redeem yourself and you blew it." and then promptly decapitates him with his shield!

2: Same beginning with Spidey but it ends with Frank Castle shooting Tony in the head instead.

3: Ghost Rider just happens to drop by and gives him a little penance stare and rides off into the night.

4: The real Thor comes and completely destroys Clor. Then he turns his attention to Tony..."Have at thee, hypocritical toad!" *SMACK!*

 

[Gotendbz-2]

I want Spidey and Cap to beat the crap out of him. But not kill him, just kick the crap out of him until he can hardly breath, then make his brains start working again.

 

[Artistsean]

I am not liking him right now either.
And its not the usual Iron Man is a jerk stuff, this is much worse.
But at the same time very belivable. I'm not an alcoholic but this is what I imagin an recovering alcoholic super hero might do. He feels like heroes need to take responcibility for their actions. He belives it so strongly that he is willing to force them. He totally thinks what he is doing is right...in the long run.
He thinks the ends justify the means, if he can stop innocent people from getting hurt in the long run then to him its OK to force registration.

But like I said before, I am not liking him. I totally agree with Cap and now Spider-Man, and the way Tony is going about it is slimey and wrong too. Getting Peter to reveal himself and then when Peter wants out telling him that its too late because he revealed his ID to everyone. and then telling him he should worry about MJ and Aunt May, what a jerk.


In the long run though I don't think he will die. I think he, Tony, will win.
I think registration will pass by a landslide and Tony will become head of SHEILD. He will then force registration, and then have one team of heroes per state, 50 for America. Maybe even try and force other nations to do the same.
Then for a year, or two, maybe more, Marvel comics will have lots of stories. Iron Man being head of SHEILD and Captain America working to counter him somehow, maybe leading Omega Flight or something like that.
Spider-man will be a vigilantee rebel who is constantly hunted, along with various other heroes. and the X-men will have to deal with this registration act that is almost a mutant reigstration act.
As the years go by Marvel will slowly change back to what it once was or as close as it can, but things will change back at a snails pace.

 

[LennonBoy]

the Iron Man side has like all the cool guys...well spiderman just switched over i think....well any way yes this time iron man is "THE HUMAN FAGG"

 

[Anubis]

Actually, going by whats going on in Iron Man's own book, he's doing what he's doing out of guilt. He recently was taken over by the son of the guy who helped him build the original armor. He was forced to kill a lot of people including ripping a plane in half with over 200 people on board. Like the guy said, he just as easily could have been the poster boy for irresponsible superheroes like Speedball is right now. That guilt has caused him to react in such an extreme way. Plus he's always been a *****e to begin with. A *****e with a guilty conscience will do some extremely *****ey things.

 

[LennonBoy]

Death by Snoo Snoo?

lol..I AGREE

 

[Démon]

(smile)

I can here a voice screaming out at Stark Labs:

NOT LIKE THIS,... I'M NOT GOING OUT LIKE THIS!!!!

Which brings to mind another possibility: during a big fight between pro- and anti-registration forces, Hawkeye runs in and accidentally gets his quiver set on fire. He begins running towards Tony, screaming "NOT LIKE THIS...I'M NOT GOING OUT LIKE THIS!"

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