BvS Is anyone else not excited about Superman and Batman? I feel nothing but dread. - Part 1

[MrsKent26]

Isn't this thread supposed to be a safe haven for those who generally don't like where this film is going? I understand why people wouldnt want that in threads they usually populate, by why oh why are people coming in here to actually defend things?

Because people have different opinions? There's no rule that this thread is only for people on the "dread" end of things. People who don't feel that way can "defend things" if they want.

 

[The Batman]

My two cents, I don't know how anyone couldn't be excited for this movie! It's Batman and it's Superman in the SAME movie for the first time. If you over analyze it takes the fun out of it and I think we just need to sit back and enjoy what we're getting and what we grew up with. It will make a ridiculous amount of money regardless of what the critics say. I'm going to enjoy the ride.

...But....some of us don't enjoy something just because its a live action version of what we grew up.

Some us...have to like the acting, story, effects, etc. No one should just enjoy a Superman movie just because Superman is in it. That's settling.

 

[Pickleweasel]

...But....some of us don't enjoy something just because its a live action version of what we grew up.

Some us...have to like the acting, story, effects, etc. No one should just enjoy a Superman movie just because Superman is in it. That's settling.

He was talking about being excited for the movie. Not that he is going to blindly like it just cuz he has batman and superman in it

 

[Sharkboy]

Because people have different opinions? There's no rule that this thread is only for people on the "dread" end of things. People who don't feel that way can "defend things" if they want.

The thread is solely about voicing things that DON'T like, people coming in here and getting annoyed at that is hilarious to me.

...But....some of us don't enjoy something just because its a live action version of what we grew up.

Some us...have to like the acting, story, effects, etc. No one should just enjoy a Superman movie just because Superman is in it. That's settling.

Thank you!

 

[MrsKent26]

The thread is solely about voicing things that DON'T like, people coming in here and getting annoyed at that is hilarious to me.

It's not though.

The original post is this:

No i'm not trying to be edgy or go against the current here. But this movie already has two kisses of death by the names of Goyer and Snyder. You've got David Goyer who's just proven spectacularly that he can't write his way outta a paper bag, and Zack Snyder the guy who wrote Sucker Punch. I enjoyed Man of Steel, but i'll admit it did have some glaring problems in terms of it's story.

I'm sorry but these guys have not proven themselves worthy at all. If I were a studio exec, I wouldn't trust these guys with a project of this caliber.

People are free to counter that if they want. There's nothing about only voicing dislike in there. Yes, it might be silly to complain about people having complaints in the first place that they voice in here, but coming in to say "I'm not dreading it" or to make a counter argument to a specific thing isn't unreasonable.

 

[regwec]

The thread title also features a question mark.

If the thread title was "the tree house of misery for those who don't want to give BvS a chance, but don't want to have to justify their preemptive conclusions to others", then the rest of us would stay away.

 

[Bathead]

Bathead speaks wisely. But coming from him, it's no surprise.

Gee, thanks!
*blushes*

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm more "skepticable" of your spelling skills.

J/K (but not really)

People like to use the Daredevil thing to attack Affleck, but unless the man wrote it AND directed it, nothing he could have done could have made it better. If it were written and directed perfectly well AND he had crapped on what he had been given it would have been a stronger argument and still without merit, it was a long time ago and whether people here like to admit it or not, Affleck is a very solid creative mind, he has been for years now. A lot of time has passed since Daredevil.

Exactly
More recent work can be used for reference more efficiently
If Affleck did remain the same as he was in DareDevil, then it is not much of a problem to use it as reference for his past portrayal as a masked vigilante

 

[Visualiza]

People are free to counter that if they want. There's nothing about only voicing dislike in there. Yes, it might be silly to complain about people having complaints in the first place that they voice in here, but coming in to say "I'm not dreading it" or to make a counter argument to a specific thing isn't unreasonable.

That sort of intolerance is exactly what the issue is in the first place, people crying for a thread lock or harassing those that have issues with either of these movies. There's nothing wrong with presenting a positive or neutral counter-point in here (and vice versa anywhere else, for that matter), but the thing is, there's quite a few people hanging around who have nothing to contribute outside of "Shutup trolls, GTFO of my forum."

Some choice quotes:

Spoiler

This thread is is just a soft way of trolling for folks who want to derail this project before it barely gets off the ground and is no different from the ones on IMDb. That's why BatFan1979 and me would rather see it closed.

I want the ten minutes of my life back that I lost reading posts in this thread...and the two minutes I spent writing a comment

So, sorry to come late to this party, but how was this thread not locked down before it got this many posts? I mean without going back and reading them all, just by the thread title I thought for sure a moderator would have nipped it in the bud. Anyway, since its not, I've got to say Im EXTREMELY excited about this film...curious about the Lex part though, but willing to wait to judge until I see it.

Zryson's gonna thrive in here

F*** sake, I knew I shouldn't have bothered posting in this thread. If I took a drink every time some pretentious hype poster used the word "cringeworthy" I'd be sh**faced in five minutes.

I suppose this thread wouldn't be so bloody annoying if these arguments didn't seem to find their way into every other thread on this board. It makes me just want to say, "Fine! You win! It was the worst movie in the history of the universe and the sequel will be a disaster!" Maybe that will make us all move on.

I'm not saying that all of you are wrong, but so many of these complaints are so subjective. You didn't see chemistry between Cavill and Adams? I saw a ton of it. You thought Cavill was a blank slate? I thought he was every bit as good as Reeve, etc.

this thread

Oh, for f*** sake.
Can't summa you people just sit back and relax and just enjoy a movie without over-analyzing the hell out of it? You'd think you were all frustrated film school graduates who couldn't get jobs as critics.
Jeez.

^SHH in a nutshell + a lot of negativity, flawed logic and bad puns trying to joke.

Point blank, these sort of posts don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Imagine the kind of firestorm that would erupt if these types of responses were strewn about the other threads, which amount to little more than telling others what to think (Can't summa you just enjoy a movie...) or silencing, ridiculing, and discrediting them (gifs, everyone here is a troll, etc.).

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Sure, the positive comments here are just as welcome as anything else; they've made for some stimulating discussion, as I haven't really seen anyone get out of line save for the people who can't seem to come to grips with the fact that there are others out there with a different perspective.

Comments like the aforementioned, however, are every bit as bad as the trolling and harassment that they allude to. I don't know how infractions don't get handed out to these people who believe that devout fans should have a monopoly on the discussions here.

 

[dnno1]

Hey guys, first time posting in the Batman/Superman threads, so trying to catch up on this one by reading a lot of the previous pages.

My two cents, I don't know how anyone couldn't be excited for this movie! It's Batman and it's Superman in the SAME movie for the first time. If you over analyze it takes the fun out of it and I think we just need to sit back and enjoy what we're getting and what we grew up with. It will make a ridiculous amount of money regardless of what the critics say. I'm going to enjoy the ride.

As for some of the complaints/opinions expressed with MOS (such as the dick-measuring line, the kiss, etc) I had two that came to mind.

1.) Did it not bother anyone at the end when Lois watches Superman and Zod falling from the sky and crash into train station, which is literally shown to be several miles away and she is separated from them by a demolished Metropolis, yet when they show Superman and Zod fight, Lois shows up a minute later? - I know it's a superhero movie, you have to suspend disbelief, and there is only so much "realism" but to me this just fell under the card of common sense. How did she get from Point A to Point B that fast with so much crap in her way? I realize I said don't over analyze, but I don't think this is. It just really, really, didn't make any sense.

2.) The other thing that I thought, which is far less intricate, is why would Lois be on that military aircraft that carried Superman's original ship? I remember thinking, the only reason she is on there is so she can fall off and Superman can save her. And that is a weak reason. There is no legit excuse or solid story excuse why they would put her on that plane. It just felt very blatant and poorly executed for them to do it that way.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Can't wait to see how BvS plays out!

To be honest with you, it wasn't very clear how far away Lois was from the train station. What we saw after she looked up in the sky was a shot of Zod and Superman along with debris falling from the sky but it wasn't from Lois' eyes (it couldn't have been since it was taken from building top and not eye level). Secondly none of the debris fell into the train station so it should lead one to believe that the two fighters were diverted from that during the fall into the train station. As far as Lois being on the cargo plane carrying the space craft, she was the only one that knew how to activate the phantom drives. I am pretty sure she used that as leverage to get on board.

 

[The Batman]

That sort of intolerance is exactly what the issue is in the first place, people crying for a thread lock or harassing those that have issues with either of these movies. There's nothing wrong with presenting a positive or neutral counter-point in here (and vice versa anywhere else, for that matter), but the thing is, there's quite a few people hanging around who have nothing to contribute outside of "Shutup trolls, GTFO of my forum."

Some choice quotes:




Point blank, these sort of posts don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Imagine the kind of firestorm that would erupt if these types of responses were strewn about the other threads, which amount to little more than telling others what to think (Can't summa you just enjoy a movie...) or silencing, ridiculing, and discrediting them (gifs, everyone here is a troll, etc.).

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Sure, the positive comments here are just as welcome as anything else; they've made for some stimulating discussion, as I haven't really seen anyone get out of line save for the people who can't seem to come to grips with the fact that there are others out there with a different perspective.

Comments like the aforementioned, however, are every bit as bad as the trolling and harassment that they allude to. I don't know how infractions don't get handed out to these people who believe that devout fans should have a monopoly on the discussions here.

I don't want to go as far as to say some of them are basically trolling...but they're not breeding productive discussion either.

They're essentially the very thing they whine about on a regular basis.

 

[Psycho_Sith]

That sort of intolerance is exactly what the issue is in the first place, people crying for a thread lock or harassing those that have issues with either of these movies. There's nothing wrong with presenting a positive or neutral counter-point in here (and vice versa anywhere else, for that matter), but the thing is, there's quite a few people hanging around who have nothing to contribute outside of "Shutup trolls, GTFO of my forum."

Some choice quotes:




Point blank, these sort of posts don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Imagine the kind of firestorm that would erupt if these types of responses were strewn about the other threads, which amount to little more than telling others what to think (Can't summa you just enjoy a movie...) or silencing, ridiculing, and discrediting them (gifs, everyone here is a troll, etc.).

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Sure, the positive comments here are just as welcome as anything else; they've made for some stimulating discussion, as I haven't really seen anyone get out of line save for the people who can't seem to come to grips with the fact that there are others out there with a different perspective.

Comments like the aforementioned, however, are every bit as bad as the trolling and harassment that they allude to. I don't know how infractions don't get handed out to these people who believe that devout fans should have a monopoly on the discussions here.

Whereas I found your post lengthy and informative, I clearly stated that I was joking in another comment. It was just light-hearted.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions and threads to voice such; that's why I even clicked on the thread, to read the discussions. Everything was in fun.

...plus, I have certain "quiet concerns" myself with BvS (as I did with every CBM that's come before and most likely will with those coming after)

 

[dnno1]

That sort of intolerance is exactly what the issue is in the first place, people crying for a thread lock or harassing those that have issues with either of these movies. There's nothing wrong with presenting a positive or neutral counter-point in here (and vice versa anywhere else, for that matter), but the thing is, there's quite a few people hanging around who have nothing to contribute outside of "Shutup trolls, GTFO of my forum."

Some choice quotes:




Point blank, these sort of posts don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Imagine the kind of firestorm that would erupt if these types of responses were strewn about the other threads, which amount to little more than telling others what to think (Can't summa you just enjoy a movie...) or silencing, ridiculing, and discrediting them (gifs, everyone here is a troll, etc.).

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Sure, the positive comments here are just as welcome as anything else; they've made for some stimulating discussion, as I haven't really seen anyone get out of line save for the people who can't seem to come to grips with the fact that there are others out there with a different perspective.

Comments like the aforementioned, however, are every bit as bad as the trolling and harassment that they allude to. I don't know how infractions don't get handed out to these people who believe that devout fans should have a monopoly on the discussions here.

I said that this thread was a soft way of trolling for folks who want to derail this film and that statement has yet to be proven wrong. Saying that it is intolerable doesn't make what I said untrue nor does it change the fact that some people have encouraged people to do so. I have read this thread and one of the reasons why I have responded is because several folks have made erroneous statements about the film (like there are too many characters for it to work, when it certainly did for Avengers) and have even encouraged people to write to the studio to express their (errant) concerns to the CEO of Warner Brothers (who is certainly too busy to read your mail) in an attempt to influence the film. This is just plain silly, baseless and morally wrong. We certainly do not know the exact story nor what went on with the casting or scripting to even attempt to question the decisions that people who specialize in this and have many years in the business, and I think that people should cool their heels and wait since more info will surface as time goes on. In the mean time, to alleviate some of your concerns here are some videos you should watch:

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[YT]3RiATShCplg[/YT]

 

[roach]

Point blank, these sort of posts don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Imagine the kind of firestorm that would erupt if these types of responses were strewn about the other threads, which amount to little more than telling others what to think (Can't summa you just enjoy a movie...) or silencing, ridiculing, and discrediting them (gifs, everyone here is a troll, etc.).

Since I was mentioned in the 'offending' posts I will answer.
I dislike 'positive' threads and 'negative' threads. The purpose of a message board is for people to discuss a topic...good or bad...if we coral all the positive posts in one thread and all the negative posts in separate threads...then what's the point? People should be able to go into any thread and discuss anything they want...however the flip side of that is there will be people who agree and disagree with said posts.
People who want to break into 'positive'/'negative' threads come across to me as people who can't deal with other people's opinions.

That is why i put the Superman pic in this thread.

 

[Webhead38]

When it comes to the DC Universe and movies, I learned a long time ago to just wait until it hits the theater. Whether it be casting or trailers, it's hard to know what you've got until the treatment unfolds on the big screen.

 

[Rock Sexton]

The thread title also features a question mark.

If the thread title was "the tree house of misery for those who don't want to give BvS a chance, but don't want to have to justify their preemptive conclusions to others", then the rest of us would stay away.

In the OP's defense, that question mark clearly indicates he wants to have discussion with people of like mind. It's hard NOT to notice that.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I said that this thread was a soft way of trolling for folks who want to derail this film and that statement has yet to be proven wrong.

How can some random internet nerds derail a movie project? Is the WB using this thread as their source for inspiration? LOL

 

[roach]

In the OP's defense, that question mark clearly indicates he wants to have discussion with people of like mind. It's hard NOT to notice that.

actually nothing about the title suggest this is for like minded people. IMO it seemed more like a place to have a discussion between people who dread this movie and people who don't.

 

[PacificBoy]

I said that this thread was a soft way of trolling for folks who want to derail this film and that statement has yet to be proven wrong. Saying that it is intolerable doesn't make what I said untrue nor does it change the fact that some people have encouraged people to do so. I have read this thread and one of the reasons why I have responded is because several folks have made erroneous statements about the film (like there are too many characters for it to work, when it certainly did for Avengers) and have even encouraged people to write to the studio to express their (errant) concerns to the CEO of Warner Brothers (who is certainly too busy to read your mail) in an attempt to influence the film. This is just plain silly, baseless and morally wrong. We certainly do not know the exact story nor what went on with the casting or scripting to even attempt to question the decisions that people who specialize in this and have many years in the business, and I think that people should cool their heels and wait since more info will surface as time goes on. In the mean time, to alleviate some of your concerns here are some videos you should watch:

[YT]s4KMNj76mzg[/YT]
[YT]3RiATShCplg[/YT]

Has a big budget movie ever been derailed by the internet crowd before? As you said, the CEO and others in WB have little time to waste on mere fans writing in to complain, let alone follow the thoughts of some posters on even a popular site like the Hype.

 

[Rock Sexton]

actually nothing about the title suggest this is for like minded people. IMO it seemed more like a place to have a discussion between people who dread this movie and people who don't.

Based on his search for other people who are not excited? Whaaaaaaa?

He was looking for the comfort of discussion with people who feel the same way. It's as clear as day. There are plenty of other threads to celebrate the movie, it's not necessary all of them get dominated with glee.

 

[MrsKent26]

actually nothing about the title suggest this is for like minded people. IMO it seemed more like a place to have a discussion between people who dread this movie and people who don't.

Indeed. This thread is on its second part and has had discussion all the way through. I'm not sure why people are deciding to claim it as the "Come here to complain and no one will question you about it" thread now.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Indeed. This thread is on its second part and has had discussion all the way through. I'm not sure why people are deciding to claim it as the "Come here to complain and no one will question you about it" thread now.

It's on it's second part because people love a good argument and a negative thread wasn't going untouched by the people excited for the movie. It's like an itch they absolutely have to scratch. Nowhere in Shark's original comments did he invite people of opposite mind to try and convince him not to be down about the movie.

 

[MrsKent26]

^ Or it could be because, like any thread, it's for both positive and negative discussions.

 

[roach]

It's on it's second part because people love a good argument and a negative thread wasn't going untouched by the people excited for the movie. It's like an itch they absolutely have to scratch. Nowhere in Shark's original comments did he invite people of opposite mind to try and convince him not to be down about the movie.

fair enough...i'll leave.

 

[Rock Sexton]

fair enough...i'll leave.

Btw, just for clarification purposes I'm seeing the movie. t: