Sequels Is Fox killing the X-Men

[Leo Zelinsky]

But past Jubilee stand alone film? I think they're going to begin scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Gambit with Rogue & Jubilee in New Orleans can be just as good as

Captain America with Widow & Falcon in Washington DC

 

[marvelrobbins]

I agree with you.

I also share that, Fox and Disney, are to blame to a degree.

And while Whedon may have pitched the idea for killing Quicksilver... Marvel stamped its approval. Whedon is no renegade. He still had to follow lock step with the overall vision Sith-Lord Feige and Disney had in place.

I do hope this pettiness, one day goes away and is replaced with acceptance and a roadmap to a shared licensing agreement with both parties.

That is, at least, the most I can hope for now.

Quite honestly fact disney and fox can do the trade for ego for tweaking TNW's powers sort of proves it's not feige or even disney who is saying screw the X-Men it's marvel CEO.inhumans now a tv show is all about feige not really caring about the inhumans now that he answers to disney ceo.
In a lot of ways the film and tv divisons of marvel are different worlds now.i still love to know what led to marvel ceo going along with legion and other planned tv show.and yes Feige is overload of MCU but knowing whedon as i
do i wouldn't be surprised if killing off quicksilver was his idea.he has long history of killing off characters from buffy,angel,and serenity.

X-Men continues to sell.believe me if they didn't marvel wouldn't continue to publish them.The biggest problem is X-men going beyond old timers like me.
In mid 1990's it was estimated audence for X-Men comic books goes from 8 to 48.In past kids who buy both marvel and DC may start with spider-man and superman move on to batman and end up with X-Men.some of their actions hurt getting new kids into X-Men.

it would be great if X-Men and MCU could exsist peacefully.I would be fine
with fox using FF to get better deal to promate films.even for colorful costumes the films since first class have been moving in that direction.
whoever does next full X-Men film will almost certinly bring in colorful costumes.Apocalypse has X-men transition to them.

 

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Gambit with Rogue & Jubilee in New Orleans can be just as good as

Captain America with Widow & Falcon in Washington DC

I agree with this. And we've seen adventures like these before

 

[psylockolussus]

With how Fox are going right now with all the consistencies, I just can't see them creating an universe as big as the MCU without throwing money and getting underwhelming box office receipts in return.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

I just can't see them creating an universe as big as the MCU without throwing money and getting underwhelming box office receipts in return.

 

[x-er]

I'm weary about having popular stars/starlets (Emilia Clarke, Emmy Rossum, etc) play non-main characters from the comics. I'm afraid that's gonna be a repeat of JLaw and shoving a character in the forefront when the likes of Cyclops/Storm/Jean/Nightcrawler played second fiddle.

I was thinking about this recently and realized these aren't artists as young as Lawrence was when she was first cast, so I don't think they'd run the risk of a second JLaw here (no offense), it's more a Quicksilver type of risk. Also, they would be popular actresses in roles that don't necessarily have to be minor. In ensemble films, good writing can get many characters very good arcs and development (a constant complaint among fans here for the latest x-installments).

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Also, they would be popular actresses in roles that don't necessarily have to be minor.

These women would make great X-Women

Just listening to Gemma talk upsets me Olivia got cast as Psylocke

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[henzINNIT]

Gemma Chan was my pick for Psylocke since I first saw her in Sherlock. That was a good few years ago. I don't think Munn was a horrible choice though, she certainly wasn't the reason why the character was a total waste in Apocalypse. *sigh*

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

I don't think Munn was a horrible choice though, she certainly wasn't the reason why the character was a total waste in Apocalypse. *sigh*

I'm a huge stickler for X-Men accents and it irks me alot of X-Men don't get proper accents or their names get Americanized. I mean X-Men is like Marvel's only real International Team before everyone from Marvel joined Avengers. These movies make more overseas let's pander to the international demo because $ & because X-Men are global characters anyways

I was very "okay" with Munn because I felt okay maybe she'll speak Japanese because Munn can do that but nope. She barely had three lines

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[DavidHaller]

problem with Munn's casting was that Psylocke was a purely physical role and Munn could barely walk in her shoes! She was totally miscast. She maybe tried but totally failed. Seeing her running is always cracking me up. They should have used a trained martial arts professional or stuntwoman to play Psylocke.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

They should have used a trained martial arts professional or stuntwoman to play Psylocke.

Or they could've used Autumn Rolfson instead of wasting Psylocke for the second time.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Alot of the time lesser known tv or film stars get these parts, like evan peters was in kickass in a fairly small part and he was also in american horror story before being quicksilver.

Then again its probably down to the creative team on whose cast for the most part with fox just saying yes or no

 

[DavidHaller]

finding outstanding talent on the rise seem to have been their main agenda.

All these actors and actresses are Hollywood's greatest talents. It is pretty impressive how great the casting of these movies have been so far.

 

[X-Maniac]

They could have. But they decided to give fans at least a little glimpse of this sexist and racist character from the comic books...a.k.a. Fake Asian Vagina Thong Girl.

She was not wasted. She was a small cameo.

Munn herself insisted on the comic-accurate costume.

And of course she was wasted. That's a FACT.

After Quicksilver, she was the character viewers were most excited about seeing. I doubt they were happy she had two lines of dialogue and no characterisation whatsoever.

What the hell are you smoking? Because it sure isn't anything with a whiff of reality.

 

[X-Maniac]

finding outstanding talent on the rise seem to have been their main agenda.

All these actors and actresses are Hollywood's greatest talents. It is pretty impressive how great the casting of these movies have been so far.

The casting is great. The use of the cast is not great. Too many actors see their characters turned into nothing more than wallpaper.

 

[DavidHaller]

The casting is great. The use of the cast is not great. Too many actors see their characters turned into nothing more than wallpaper.

what is not great about Magneto, Xavier, Mystique, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, or Jean Grey in the entire series? And there are many minor characters who shined as well even with a little bit of screen time.

Have a look at Ellen Page! She barely was in X3 and Days of Future Past but her portrayal of Kitty Pryde was still outstanding enough to create a compelling character. Munn on the other hand did nothing because her character was a physical role and she could not deliver the physical aspect of it! She looked awkward in every scene and obviously is not an athlete!

Kudos to her for trying but I cannot give a positive evaluation for trying without delivering anything.

 

[Frankeh]

Munn herself insisted on the comic-accurate costume.

And of course she was wasted. That's a FACT.

After Quicksilver, she was the character viewers were most excited about seeing. I doubt they were happy she had two lines of dialogue and no characterisation whatsoever.

What the hell are you smoking? Because it sure isn't anything with a whiff of reality.

DavidHaller lives inside a very comfortable bubble where X-Men films are the most comic accurate movies ever made.

Not surprising that he's defending the filmmakers for using Psylocke just to "shut down costume debates" And look at him listing like six characters out of the many, many characters of this franchise to prove that characters are not misused. Some serious delusion here.

 

[X-Maniac]

don't be rude! Nobody cares about a dull, sexist, racist character like Psylocke anyway. She was only added so little fanboys can *********e while watching her vagina costume. I bet adding her to the cast was a marketing decision by producers to sell more tickets in the Asian market. Did Psylocke do anything in the 1990s besides showing her ass for sexist comic fans??? Unfortunately, Olivia Muni's portrayal turned out to be very faithful to the comic books then.

All of the female comic book characters wore skimpy outfits at some point. Storm started off in a bra and booty shorts with thigh-high boots.

I'm not sure how you cope with seeing women in swimwear and leotards in real life, lol...

Psylocke has been around in the comics since 1976 and has a rich history. Regardless of her outfit (which has varied over the years and included full coverage that would have you in much less of a state, lol), she deserves a place in the on-screen mythology as well.

Furthermore, she was the second-most popular character that fans were excited about seeing on screen.

It doesn't matter what outfit she was wearing, she could have been fully covered for all i care, but the movie was trying to move away from black leather suits.

She was not wasted. Because she was intended to be a small cameo for fans to shut down annoying costume debates online. Sorry if fans expected more of her character. I found it very obvious that she will be non-existent in the movie the moment a no-name actress like Olivia Munn was cast.

Singer decided to concentrate on more interesting characters like Magneto and Jean Grey and that was a great decision because Psylocke as a fake Asian sex Ninja is borderline disgusting as a character anyway and should have never been brought to the X-Men movies 2016.

Any character who is not given motivation/characterisation is wasted, even more so if it's a key/classic character from the X-Men books.

...Storm on the other hand was the real crime of this movie!! If you want to get angry because of wasted characters, get angry because of Storm. Singer deserve every hate online for treating Storm so horribly in "X-Men: Apocalypse". His punishment should be leaving the X-Men movies forever. Let's get instead Ava DuVernay ASAP!

Singer has never really favoured Storm, that much is obvious by now. The diversity of the comics has never really been done justice on screen. Storm, Jubilee and Psylocke were just token gestures - and you didn't even want Psylocke there!

 

[DavidHaller]

Psylocke from the comic books is NOT a character to debate diversity. REALLY, she is not.

I would also not say that Storm is a "token gesture" in X2 at all. She has actually some very beautiful scenes. She is maybe not Storm from the comic books but she is still a very compelling female character and she is getting developed throughout the first three movies.

 

[DavidHaller]

DavidHaller lives inside a very comfortable bubble where X-Men films are the most comic accurate movies ever made.

Not surprising that he's defending the filmmakers for using Psylocke just to "shut down costume debates" And look at him listing like six characters out of the many, many characters of this franchise to prove that characters are not misused. Some serious delusion here.

I am too lazy to explain to you in detail how very accurately X2, Days of Future Past, The Wolverine and X-Men Apocalypse are influenced by comic book storylines like Days of Future Past or God Loves Man Kills or The Cure or Ultimate X-Men or Fall of the Mutants or Claremont's Wolverine's first solo series.

Comic book accurate costumes are such a superficial, dull discussion, I'm not interested to get into because most MCU characters are totally different from their comic book counterpart as well and most of these movies do not even bother to get influenced by concrete comic book story lines.

 

[x-er]

Psylocke from the comic books is NOT a character to debate diversity. REALLY, she is not.

I would also not say that Storm is a "token gesture" in X2 at all. She has actually some very beautiful scenes. She is maybe not Storm from the comic books but she is still a very compelling female character and she is getting developed throughout the first three movies.

Those scenes with Senator Kelly (X1) and Nightcrawler (X2) were really leading up to something good. But it's probably time to forget that now, we'd be going in circles.

I agree that Fox could amp up diversity a bit. Colossus' Russian accent in Deadpool was a huge plus. Hopefully ilyana is like that and maisie (wolfsbane) sounds british (or scottish?) and sunspot sounds latino.

They've still got a rajin' cajun comin' (Gambit) and Munn's still pretty popular, why not bring her back and use her Japanese (while also giving her bodyswap story where she used to be a gay British male who got left in the body of a Japanese female). : D

 

[DavidHaller]

this is soooo Audre Lorde.

 

[psylockolussus]

Munn herself insisted on the comic-accurate costume.

And of course she was wasted. That's a FACT.

After Quicksilver, she was the character viewers were most excited about seeing. I doubt they were happy she had two lines of dialogue and no characterisation whatsoever.

What the hell are you smoking? Because it sure isn't anything with a whiff of reality.

Exactly. Reading David Haller's comments is exhausting to say the least.

 

[psylockolussus]

Anyone on here actually reading Inhumans Vs X-Men, cause so far it's pretty awesome.

I love it

 

[harryoscop]

Even though I enjoyed Apocalypse and don't need X-Men at Marvel, still salivate at the thought of what Marvel could do with with the X-Men.