Infinity War Is the Avengers trilogy (SO FAR) better than the Captain America trilogy?

[Aximili86]

I prefer the Cap movies because they have more drama and weight to them while Avengers is more of a shallow blockbuster franchise.

The tone of Infinity War was just all over the place. One moment it's dark and grim and the next moment it's standup at the improv. The Cap movies have much better balance.

You...know they're written by the same guys, right, IW and the Cap trilogy? This last one and the last two Cap flicks sharing directors?

"Tone" seems a little odd. This thing wasn't tonally much different to what Civil War was.

 

[First Avenger]

Three years later I still can't stand the hyperbolic hate AoU gets on the Internet. It's still a mighty fine CBM with many amazing scenes that, as a whole, don't work as perfectly and tightly as the first Avengers, but I still like the former more.

BTW I think both trilogies are pretty equal right now.

 

[Murdock103]

Three years later I still can't stand the hyperbolic hate AoU gets on the Internet. It's still a mighty fine CBM with many amazing scenes that, as a whole, don't work as perfectly and tightly as the first Avengers, but I still like the former more.

BTW I think both trilogies are pretty equal right now.

I don’t understand the hate AOU gets either. It’s flawed certainly. But it’s still a great comic book movie.
I also don’t get the hate Ultron as a character gets.

I also agree, I think both trilogies are about equal. I might lean slightly towards Captain America on a personal level.

 

[harlequinade]

You guys are crazy. AOU may have failed to live up to the expectations of the first Avengers but it does not warrant contempt and hatred.

The fan base now is just spoiled. But I grew up with the likes of Batman Forever and Superman IV so that helps me appreciate what I'm able to watch these days. It's an embarrassment of riches.

And TFA was a nice little flick and all but doesn't hold a candle to a single Avengers film in my mind. But hey to each his own.

Oh it does. Black Widow's arc and lines. Whedon is just the worst.

 

[StormC]

Age Of Ultron is fine. It's absolutely loaded with problems in the script, direction, editing, and effects departments... but it's an entertaining night out at the movies despite everything working against it (which is a lot) because you're invested in the characters by this point. Unfortunately, the high standard of the MCU makes it one of the worst films in the franchise. The incredible track record of Phase 3 has only made it look worse and worse overtime as well.


As for the trilogies... CW > IW > TWS > TA > TFA > AOU. Close, but I gotta give it to the Cap trilogy. Its worst movie is mid-tier, the worst Avengers movie is low-tier.

 

[007]

No.

The cap trilogy is the best in the franchise.

Avengers still very good however.
Much better than the absolute horror show of the recent star wars trilogy.

Age of ultron was a great film. As someone has said people are spoiled.

Nothing wrong with black widows arc in that whatsoever.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

About even now in my view.

Two outstanding instalments and one so-so installment.

Neither the first Cap film nor AoU are "bad" movies but they also aren't great shakes either.

I might have to give the Avengers films now a slight edge given that the bad guys and how they are handled in their two good entries are more engaging and entertaining than the villains in TWS and CW.

 

[Elayis]

The Cap trilogy overall is much better. I at least liked every one of those movies, but both A1 and now IW were very underwhelming to me. I'd take AoU over any of the Cap films, but one movie isn't enough to tip the balance against a trilogy.

 

[def28]

One advantage that the Cap trilogy has is a very strong central character - who develops significantly over the films.

Civil War is amazing, in that it is both a team up film, and a film that still centres on Cap, with Tony playing the villain. Mind you, I think of CW as more of an Avengers film than a Cap film.

Very tough to compare these movies.

Pretty much, each one has a different mission and developing a team film compared to a solo is very different. If one prefers team ensembles where the screen time is more balanced and the setting more epic then the Avengers. If you want a more focus character driven series go with Cap.

I'm just glad both exist and it's not one or the other. The Avengers films wouldn't come close to working like they do if we didn't have the solo's setting them up.

 

[Erzengel]

I think TWS & CW and TA and IW could be argued to be equatable.

But for me TFA > AOU, puts the CA Trilogy over.

 

[Havok83]

One advantage that the Cap trilogy has is a very strong central character - who develops significantly over the films.

Civil War is amazing, in that it is both a team up film, and a film that still centres on Cap, with Tony playing the villain. Mind you, I think of CW as more of an Avengers film than a Cap film.

Very tough to compare these movies.

tony was an antagonist, not a villain. That honor belonged to Zemo

 

[Loki882]

No. The Avengers trilogy is quite good, but two out of the three Cap movies are better than two out of the three Avengers films.

TWS, is the best all-around MCU film imo. TFA is one of the most underappreciated ones imo. And CW is a REALLY good film.

TA is amazingly entertaining. AOU (while I like it more than many others seem to) is more of a flawed film (not bad, but flawed). And it's not as good as TWS or CW. And IW is quite good, but again not as good as TWS or CW either imo.

 

[Loki882]

Oh it does. Black Widow's arc and lines. Whedon is just the worst.

See everything that people hated about BW in AOU

Spoiler

Is how I feel about how Gamora and Nebula were used in IW.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Whedon is so maligned these days but I just watched parts of AOU this morning and was reminded of why I loved what he wrought. He brought an unbridled joy to the uniting of these characters and a celebration of the comic book style to the big screen like no one else. I'm glad the Avengers are in the hands of the Russos now but I will be forever grateful for what Whedon accomplished and gave to fans.

Also CW was an Avengers movie sorry. Also as pointed out - directed by the directors of the last Avengers movie.

So basically you're comparing 2 Cap movies vs. 4 Avengers films. Why even compare? I guess that's what us nerds do LOL.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Pretty much, each one has a different mission and developing a team film compared to a solo is very different. If one prefers team ensembles where the screen time is more balanced and the setting more epic then the Avengers. If you want a more focus character driven series go with Cap.

I'm just glad both exist and it's not one or the other. The Avengers films wouldn't come close to working like they do if we didn't have the solo's setting them up.

Nice post. Totally agree.

 

[daddydivine]

I think TWS & CW and TA and IW could be argued to be equatable.

But for me TFA > AOU, puts the CA Trilogy over.

To me The Avengers is vastly superior to The First Avenger.

I think it comes down to how people view AOU. If you thought it was a good or great movie Avengers wins this argument. If you thought it was a bad or Average movie Cap wins.

AOU is a very decisive movie for fans and it seems to be the tipping point for this comparison.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Not fair. Civil War ended just as open ended as Infinity war. And it makes it quite easy to compare them now. After Avengers 4 it'll be difficult to compare any trilogy to the Avengers.

Captain America: Civil War was the end of the Captain America trilogy. Avengers: Infinity War is part one of a two part story. You need to see part two to compare all the Avengers films to the Captain America trilogy.

 

[Chris B]

Overall, I think the Cap trilogy is stronger. While I don't think its a bad film, AOU was a step down from the first film and was easily surpassed by IW. And as others have already mentioned, the Captain America trilogy. Plus, the Cap films had a consistent theme throughout, which the Avengers films don't really have.

 

[Leenie]

I've adored every single one of the Cap movies, even The First Avenger (which I say is THE most underrated MCU movie).

With The Avengers, obviously the first one is a classic, and I like Age of Ultron less and less as time goes on. I think that Infinity War is brilliant.

Right now, I think I'll say that Cap's Trilogy is better? Though, at this rate, I think that Avengers 4/Infinity War Part 2 will be amazing. I trust the Russo Brothers with anything at this rate.

 

[The_Manhunter]

Hands down IMO

 

[Spider-Fan]

Even if it has yet to be released, Avengers is not a trilogy. It shall be a quadrilogy. Therefore the winner is the Captain America Trilogy because it is the only one that is actually a trilogy

 

[Leenie]

I think we can all just agree that the true winners of this "battle" are The Russo Brothers.

 

[Smurphftw]

I think they're on par but I give the slight edge The Avengers because of all the many different cool characters.

 

[Erzengel]

To me The Avengers is vastly superior to The First Avenger.

I think it comes down to how people view AOU. If you thought it was a good or great movie Avengers wins this argument. If you thought it was a bad or Average movie Cap wins.

AOU is a very decisive movie for fans and it seems to be the tipping point for this comparison.

I did a different comparison. I think the Avengers is better than TFA. But if TFA is the least of the Cap Trilogy and AOU is the least of the the current Avengers trilogy, then I would give the nod to Cap.

TFA < TA
TWS > AOU
It depends on whether you thought IW was better than CW.

I think we can all just agree that the true winners of this "battle" are The Russo Brothers.

TWS, CW and IW is an impressive 3 set of movies and in comparison to other directors?

Michael Vaughn - Stardust, Kingsman 1 & 2, Kick Ass & X-Men: First Class
Bryan Singer - X-Men, X2, Superman Returns, DOFP & Apocalypse
Zack Snyder - 300, MOS, BvS, Watchmen and JL
Josh Whedon - Avengers, AOU & JL
Guillermo del Toro - Blade 2, Hellboy & Hellboy 2
Sam Raimi - Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2 & Spider-Man 3
Russo Brothers - TWS, CW, Avengers 3
Christopher Nolan - TDKT
James Gunn - GOTG Trilogy*

I know most people would still pick Nolan, but I think the argument can be made even if their movies aren't part of a trilogy and if Avengers 4 is equal to better than IW, even more so?

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I think we can all just agree that the true winners of this "battle" are The Russo Brothers.

As fans we are really lucky. First Whedon and then at the perfect time here come the Russos. The Russos are probably the best thing to ever happen to the MCU.

But honorable mention has to go to:

Favreau
Branagh
Gunn
Derrickson
Waititi