Is there a possibility of an Raimi's Spider-Man returning?

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There's a reason Raimi's films were doing so well in the box office.
 
SONY shot themselves in the foot by rebooting, this way they can't even bring back the old Raimi storyline to see if fans can come back. Their original decision was obviously inspired by Batman Begins, they just didn't realise that the film series wasn't even broken yet in order to pull off a stunt like that.

They tried too hard to please people in ASM2. They brought back camp to an extent. Look how that turned out. Raimi is the last thing on their minds. They went through all that trouble to bring Webb back, obviously he's coming back for 3. Say what you like, but ASM and ASM2 are considered good, not TDK or TWS level but pretty good. The idea that "It can not be saved" or "That's two strikes for this franchise" is simply not true.

The reason for rebooting wasn't that the franchise was f***ed beyond repair even if SM3 has gotten some very harsh, probably too harsh backlash (see Empire readers worst films ever). It was because the longevity of the series had gone.

Look at SM4, it had 3 rewrites in the space of 3 years. Raimi was never satisfied with it and it was never always envisioned to go on for 4 films. What do you do when that director leaves, as does your lead and nobody can actually move the franchise forward? You reboot.
 
There's a reason Raimi's films were doing so well in the box office.

I'm sorry but this kind of box office argument seems to always be taylored for whatever film one likes. Apparently it shows quality in the case of Raimi's films, but it definitely doesn't when it comes to Bay's Transformers. And when the box office drops for one film it matters a lot, but in other cases not.
 
I'm sorry but this kind of box office argument seems to always be taylored for whatever film one likes. Apparently it shows quality in the case of Raimi's films, but it definitely doesn't when it comes to Bay's Transformers. And when the box office drops for one film it matters a lot, but in other cases not.


Spider-Man 3 made the most in the trilogy. Must be the best film. Spider-Man 2 made the least. Must be the worst.
 
They tried too hard to please people in ASM2. They brought back camp to an extent. Look how that turned out. Raimi is the last thing on their minds. They went through all that trouble to bring Webb back, obviously he's coming back for 3. Say what you like, but ASM and ASM2 are considered good, not TDK or TWS level but pretty good. The idea that "It can not be saved" or "That's two strikes for this franchise" is simply not true.

The reason for rebooting wasn't that the franchise was f***ed beyond repair even if SM3 has gotten some very harsh, probably too harsh backlash (see Empire readers worst films ever). It was because the longevity of the series had gone.

I don't see where my post was arguing against that :huh:

Look at SM4, it had 3 rewrites in the space of 3 years. Raimi was never satisfied with it and it was never always envisioned to go on for 4 films. What do you do when that director leaves, as does your lead and nobody can actually move the franchise forward? You reboot.

It had to do with the date, he wanted the date The Amazing Spider-Man was released, or one year before that, but the studio wanted it sooner, from there it's obvious that they were desperate for a reboot, and when Sam Raimi left he even told them to go on with the reboot they were already planning. Sam Raimi needed some more time, the studio didn't allow that, the reboot wasn't their last resort, it almost seems like they were more interested in it than Spdier-Man 4.

I'm sorry but this kind of box office argument seems to always be taylored for whatever film one likes. Apparently it shows quality in the case of Raimi's films, but it definitely doesn't when it comes to Bay's Transformers. And when the box office drops for one film it matters a lot, but in other cases not.

Uhm, did i talk about quality? No! I said that the Raimi films connected with people, getting something like that rebooted so soon will just make many lose interest. It also doesn't help when even with a bigger budget, i see the general public talking about how fake this new Spider-Man looks.

Spider-Man 3 made the most in the trilogy. Must be the best film. Spider-Man 2 made the least. Must be the worst.

Look, more generalisation :whatever:
 
It had to do with the date, he wanted the date The Amazing Spider-Man was released, or one year before that, but the studio wanted it sooner, from there it's obvious that they were desperate for a reboot, and when Sam Raimi left he even told them to go on with the reboot they were already planning. Sam Raimi needed some more time, the studio didn't allow that, the reboot wasn't their last resort, it almost seems like they were more interested in it than Spdier-Man 4.



Uhm, did i talk about quality? No! I said that the Raimi films connected with people, getting something like that rebooted so soon will just make many lose interest. It also doesn't help when even with a bigger budget, i see the general public talking about how fake this new Spider-Man looks.



Look, more generalisation :whatever:

They didn't give Raimi more time because they don't own Spider-Man. There was four scripts, all three were apparantly weak so Raimi just didn't waste anyone's time.

I'm not generalising. I'm pointing out flaws in your argument. This "connection" has been in domestic decline since SM1. Lets save this for ASM2 box office thread.
 
I loved The Sam Rami films but we need to move on

Normally I'd agree, but you're in a forum and thread dedicated to his movies; there's nothing wrong with harmless speculation and discussion. With respect, I think you should speak for yourself on this one.
 
I'd love a Spider Man 4 but it's very unlikely :(
 
I love the first two Raimi Spider-Man movies. I love them to pieces. Spider-Man 3, while a disappointment, wasn't terrible (and I don't consider it to be a franchise-ender either). A handful of years ago I would have loved a Spider-Man 4. I just think it's too late now. The damage is done.

I'm so sour about the current state of the Spider-Man movies that I just don't want any more to come out for a really long time. Period.

Also, I highly doubt we'll see a Spider-Man 4 with Raimi as the director and with the original cast. We might see a Spider-Man 4 in 20 years or so if there are any Bryan Singers out there who want to do a sequel a la Superman Returns. :p
 
Raimi's trilogy is far better than the reboot. There are things that I like about Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2, but I feel they fall apart.
 
I used to like SM1, but the horrible CGI and costume for Goblin make it damn near unwatchable, which is a shame, as it has a near perfect cast (save for Dunst.)
 
If they want to make the movie that's worse than TASM2 then yeah, they should get Sam back.
 
I think I'd like to see an animated version of Spider-Man 4.... I don't know why
 
The CGI and terrible Goblin design are not the reasons why this movie is unwatchable.
 
That's what Amazing Spider-Man 2 was, Avi Arad trying to resurrect the Raimi style.

It failed. He shouldn't be trying to copy someone else's greatness anyway.

I love the first two Raimi Spider-Man movies. I love them to pieces. Spider-Man 3, while a disappointment, wasn't terrible (and I don't consider it to be a franchise-ender either). A handful of years ago I would have loved a Spider-Man 4. I just think it's too late now. The damage is done.

I'm so sour about the current state of the Spider-Man movies that I just don't want any more to come out for a really long time. Period.

Also, I highly doubt we'll see a Spider-Man 4 with Raimi as the director and with the original cast. We might see a Spider-Man 4 in 20 years or so if there are any Bryan Singers out there who want to do a sequel a la Superman Returns. :p

Raimi's trilogy is far better than the reboot. There are things that I like about Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2, but I feel they fall apart.

Agreed with both of you.
 
I believe anyone can do a better job than raimi. In fact like David Fincher or bryan singer would handle spidey better than raimi.

The raimi films while great don't seem to be as much of a godsend people make it put to be nor worth all the trouble
 
I believe anyone can do a better job than raimi. In fact like David Fincher or bryan singer would handle spidey better than raimi.

The raimi films while great don't seem to be as much of a godsend people make it put to be nor worth all the trouble

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It failed. He shouldn't be trying to copy someone else's greatness anyway.
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When Raimi wasn't doing action or just visual along with music his style was often cringeworthy to say the least
 
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I believe anyone can do a better job than raimi. In fact like David Fincher or bryan singer would handle spidey better than raimi.

The raimi films while great don't seem to be as much of a godsend people make it put to be nor worth all the trouble

You are a lot kinder then I am
 
I'm not a huge fan of Raimi's tone of the movie and I think only 1 didn't age well with a really terrible opening that played itself out like a cartoon, tobey never evolving much of a person, some of the dialogue being mediocre and with the end dialogue with MJ just cringeworthy, and tobey's Peter was just bland
 
When Raimi wasn't doing action or just visual along with music his style was often cringeworthy to say the least

If that were true his movies wouldn't be as critically successful as they are. Audiences and critics just wouldn't respond so highly to that twice in a row. It would be more accurate to say that about Marc Webb Spider-Man movies, although even with his music and action scenes there was cringeworthy times, too.
 
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