Fant4stic "It's Clobberin' Time!" - The Ben "Thing" Grimm Thread

[RAE072]

Just to depress the people who give a damn, there's no reason they couldn't have done this with CGI:

What could have been.

What exactly do you have a problem with? I think Thing looks great.

Why do you need to know? Why does he have to explain himself?

 

[Joe Rockhead]

I think what really annoys me is that the design people and suits at Fox all must have compared the CGI movie version and the comic and thought 'Yep, perfect!'

That pretty much says it all about this movie.

 

[Malus]

I'm okay with this if this is an EARLY STAGE Thing. What about that leaked green screen photo a few months ago? Compared to that, this looks a lot like the early "lumpy" Thing. And this banner just looks off to me. Very "photoshoppy" especially on Kate Mara.

 

[RAE072]

I'm okay with this if this is an EARLY STAGE Thing. What about that leaked green screen photo a few months ago? Compared to that, this looks a lot like the early "lumpy" Thing. And this banner just looks off to me. Very "photoshoppy" especially on Kate Mara.

I'm willing to bet the bust was an early production model and was scrapped in favor of THIS thing.

Since he looks just as lumpy and gross in the official teaser poster and teaser trailer.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Why do you need to know? Why does he have to explain himself?

Why do you have to butt in and talk on behalf of him?

I'm just curious if its something specific he doesn't like or just the look in general.

Mind your own business.

 

[RAE072]

Mind your own business.

Or what, tough guy? You don't want people replying to your public posts on a public internet message board, you should probably take it to PM.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I like it myself, at least he will be huge this time like a proper thing rather than being the smallest member of the team like in the last movies.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

What exactly do you have a problem with? I think Thing looks great.

He looks like a generic pile of rocks with a smashed up, messy, poorly defined face and he looks nothing like The Ever-Lovin' Blue Eyed Thing that has been clearly and consistently portayed in comic books for the past 50 years.

. . . In my opinion as someone who has never made a secret of the fact that the FF is my favorite comic book and The Thing my favorite character.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I know they wanted to keep the face "human" but the lips bother me.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I agree that it looks much better than the Chiklis foam suit from the last two FF films. But that's not saying much I don't think. The coloring definitely looks much better than the bust that was leaked earlier last year. However, both renders associated with this production look like nothing more than some generic, angry rock gollem.

I also agree with the notion that the Thing has a pretty iconic look. That iconic look is completely lost in the incarnation they've come up with. I totally get why fans who wanted to see something more faithful are extremely disappointed. Comics are a visual storytelling medium. End of debate. It's perfectly reasonable to expect to see those visual elements brought to life in an adaptation. Especially key visual elements.

Now of course you could argue that none of the actors in this film look anything like their respective comic counterparts so why should the Thing even matter. But personally I rank the the look of the Thing as one of those iconic designs that should be a direct-to-film translation along the lines of Spider-Man, Iron Man and Dr. Doom (although we've only ever seen the first two of these examples done right). And due to the fact that the Thing will be completely brought to life via CGI I really don't think there's any excuse for what we're getting instead.

 

[YourFewcha]

Just to depress the people who give a damn, there's no reason they couldn't have done this with CGI:

well....thank god its not this

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

As I mentioned in a different thread, my first impression when I saw this image was that it was fan-made and featured a cos-player who had glued styrofoam all over himself.

As I took some time, studied it some more and realized it was probably legit, I felt like someone kicked me in the nuts.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

well....thank god its not this

Yeah heaven forbid it actually resemble the character. Get out of here man.

 

[YourFewcha]

Yeah heaven forbid it actually resemble the character. Get out of here man.

i'd rather have something good tbh and i'll choose to stay

 

[Flint Marko]

I'll be honest, I kinda like that Thing. I'm a vocal critic of this movie, and that won't change, but he's my favorite looking character we've seen so far. Not that it says anything, and not that I can really judge that by one blurry picture, but so far I don't actually have a huge problem with it.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

i'd rather have something good tbh and i'll choose to stay

Something "good"? Give me a break. Why are you even a comic movie fan then if you hate comics so much? Stick with plain sci-fi or whatever.

Not to mention, I feel your post was very condescending and dismissive towards the opinion of someone who's loved a character his entire life and has been passionately active on this board for months.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

He looks like a generic pile of rocks with a smashed up, messy, poorly defined face and he looks nothing like The Ever-Lovin' Blue Eyed Thing that has been clearly and consistently portayed in comic books for the past 50 years.

It looks like they mixed the later Thing's body with the face from Kirby's early lumpy Thing FF issues.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

It looks like they mixed the later Thing's body with the face from Kirby's early lumpy Thing FF issues.

Yeah now that you mention it, the face does remind me a little of that prototypical Thing from the first issue.

 

[Paradox1]

It looks like they mixed the later Thing's body with the face from Kirby's early lumpy Thing FF issues.

I think your right

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

he's my favorite looking character we've seen so far.

A bit like saying "syphilis is my favorite venereal disease"





But, yeah, if you like it, that's cool and at least I know that's a sincere reaction. It's a little hard to take it seriously when somebody who likes everything they've seen so far, surprise, likes this too.

 

[YourFewcha]

Something "good"? Give me a break. Why are you even a comic movie fan then if you hate comics so much? Stick with plain sci-fi or whatever.

Not to mention, I feel your post was very condescending and dismissive towards the opinion of someone who's loved a character his entire life and has been passionately active on this board for months.

I don't even hate comics so I don't know why you assumed so. I'll admit I never really liked The Thing's look in the comics and I prefer something a little more intimidating. I fail to see how my post was condescending when all I said was I'm glad it's not ripped directly from the comics. Quit being so damn sensitive.

I understand why die hard Fantastic Four fans are upset at this movie and I'm not here to change your opinion on anything.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It looks like they mixed the later Thing's body with the face from Kirby's early lumpy Thing FF issues.

It reminds me of that and it also reminds be of the Thing in the first film.

But neither of those were what I was hoping for this time around. This time I was hoping it would look much more like the Thing after Kirby hit his stride and the way he has looked ever since.

There are limits with practical make-up, but there are no limits to CGI and after all the bad mouthing of the first film and how bad the Thing looked, it's beyond frustrating to see the designers going right back there.

 

[Flint Marko]

A bit like saying "syphilis is my favorite venereal disease"





But, yeah, if you like it, that's cool and at least I know that's a sincere reaction. It's a little hard to take it seriously when somebody who likes everything they've seen so far, surprise, likes this too.

Lol you ain't wrong.
And looking at the Thing bust you posted, that would have undoubtedly been a better direction. I don't disagree with that at all. But I guess my expectations were so low that I'm just happy he doesn't look like that Thing concept art where he was covered in mucus, I look at him and say, "Oh look! It's the Thing!" and that is more than I can say for anything else in this production.
Still not paying to see this in theaters, but that's my honest reaction.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

It reminds me of that and it also reminds be of the Thing in the first film.

But neither of those were what I was hoping for this time around. This time I was hoping it would look much more like the Thing after Kirby hit his stride and the way he has looked ever since.

There are limits with practical make-up, but there are no limits to CGI and after all the bad mouthing of the first film and how bad the Thing looked, it's beyond frustrating to see the designers going right back there.

I'm kind of fascinated by what discussions probably go on BTS. I'm sure they probably did several hundred renders to see what worked best.

It's like there's some problem with making this characters without/less human features look recognizably human. I've seen it too many times with Transformers, Turtles, and now Thing. Where they end up making decisions to lessen exaggerated features for more recognizable ones.

Hulk has the same problem with speaking.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I don't even hate comics so I don't know why you assumed so. I'll admit I never really liked The Thing's look in the comics and I prefer something a little more intimidating. I fail to see how my post was condescending when all I said was I'm glad it's not ripped directly from the comics. Quit being so damn sensitive.

I understand why die hard Fantastic Four fans are upset at this movie and I'm not here to change your opinion on anything.

Well not liking the Thing's actual look makes me think you hate comics because to me it's like not liking Spider-Man's costume but hey if that's your opinion then it is what it is. But as far as FF fans go I would have to imagine it's by far the minority. I don't believe I've ever heard anyone say they didn't like the Thing's iconic look. I'm curious now what designs from the comics you actually do like.