James Bond: 007 - Spectre - - Part 11

[Tacit Ronin]

Agreed. They give a bad name to legit criticism.

 

[The Chris]

I actually like screen junkies and usually like their stuff, though i actually think the honest trailer quality has dipped with the last few. The jokes being a little too obvious at some points and too much of a stretch the next. Cinema sins is just too long and not funny enough these days.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

"How it should've ended" is another idiotic series.

 

[dude stannis]

They started off great, but took a massive dive.

 

[DarkKnight88]

To be honest, spectre is non existent now.. not much hype, buzz, no one is really going over drive with it, it's forgettable. Sadly.

Time to recast, different direction.

Glad you're not in charge otherwise we would've never gotten Skyfall after the "forgettable" Quantum of Solace.

 

[Octoberist]

I feel bad for 'Spectre' because no one is really talking about it. Maybe it's due to Star Wars, maybe not. It's hard to say.

Maybe they should've titled it 'Came and Went'.

 

[Octoberist]

That being said, I think they should stick to Craig to one more movie to complete his arc, with Madeline. The problem is that, narratively, you could be repeating itself, and not for the sake of formula. More like, being pigeoned holed, [BLACKOUT]because now he's with her, and most likely Blofeld will extract revenge. And then Bond probably will want revenge if she gets murdered. [/BLACKOUT]Then it's a repeat of QoS.

The next Bond movie will be hard to write. Either way, I hope it'll be another 'mission type movie' but it won't happen.

 

[Marvolo]

They tore into Skyfall as well. The only films they go easy on are Marvel films for some reason. Definite bias obviously.

You know that Honest Trailers arent serious, right? They arent "tearing" into anything. Just having a laugh at the expense of a recent film. Since when did we start taking Honest Trailers and How it Should Have Ended so damn seriously? Cause I missed that memo. Are we taking RiffTrax serious now, too?

 

[Doctor Jones]

That being said, I think they should stick to Craig to one more movie to complete his arc, with Madeline. The problem is that, narratively, you could be repeating itself, and not for the sake of formula. More like, being pigeoned holed, [BLACKOUT]because now he's with her, and most likely Blofeld will extract revenge. And then Bond probably will want revenge if she gets murdered. [/BLACKOUT]Then it's a repeat of QoS.

The next Bond movie will be hard to write. Either way, I hope it'll be another 'mission type movie' but it won't happen.

I think if they're smart, they can play with those expectations and actually do something unexpected and different. She doesn't even need to die.

 

[Frankeh]

That being said, I think they should stick to Craig to one more movie to complete his arc, with Madeline. The problem is that, narratively, you could be repeating itself, and not for the sake of formula. More like, being pigeoned holed, [BLACKOUT]because now he's with her, and most likely Blofeld will extract revenge. And then Bond probably will want revenge if she gets murdered. [/BLACKOUT]Then it's a repeat of QoS.

The next Bond movie will be hard to write. Either way, I hope it'll be another 'mission type movie' but it won't happen.

I think they basically need to stop making it personal for Bond. There's only so many times you can do that. They need to do something different. I'm not sure if making it simply a mission movie will solve things, 'cause then people will say the movie feels been there done that... we'll see.

 

[Vaibow]

I think they basically need to stop making it personal for Bond. There's only so many times you can do that. They need to do something different. I'm not sure if making it simply a mission movie will solve things, 'cause then people will say the movie feels been there done that... we'll see.

It just popped into my head, obviously tongue in cheek, if the next movie purely focused on the lives of bond after all this.

He is shopping, in sainsbury's, someone has trolleyed his aston martin - he's fuming. He goes home, whines about it to mads, knocking back the scotch, he is in a rage - he gets on the internet, the dark internet, hooks up to the CCTV in the car park - traces it back to Gary Smith, a local bloke, a bus driver to be exact - the irony - who can't drive and just messed with the wrong guy.

Bond stalks him, spends a week in his garden, rigs the house to blow - the ticker goes down - suddenly, a puppy walks into view
'noooooooooo' bond races towards the yorkshire terrier but its too late - boom - the house goes down.

Standing there with puppy fluff over his face and blood on his hands, the sad realization sweeps over Bond - he's gone too far.

Suddenly, the neighbour pops his head over - it's only bloody Gary.

 

[DarkKnight88]

You know that Honest Trailers arent serious, right? They arent "tearing" into anything. Just having a laugh at the expense of a recent film. Since when did we start taking Honest Trailers and How it Should Have Ended so damn seriously? Cause I missed that memo. Are we taking RiffTrax serious now, too?

It's not about taking it too seriously, it's about being funny. They do have legitimate funny trailers when the movie is awful (ie After Earth). But when they just start nitpicking a good or mediocre movie, it ain't funny. Or coming up with excuses for why the SHIELD show isn't that bad, it ain't funny either.

 

[Marvolo]

It's not about taking it too seriously, it's about being funny. They do have legitimate funny trailers when the movie is awful (ie After Earth). But when they just start nitpicking a good or mediocre movie, it ain't funny. Or coming up with excuses for why the SHIELD show isn't that bad, it ain't funny either.

If you'd lighten up you might laugh. Just because you like something doesn't mean it can't be laughed at. Spectre was riddled with problems. It was perfect for an Honest Trailer.

As for SHIELD, I like SHIELD but the show is chintzy, it's cliche, and it was an absolute hot mess until TWS. It's pulp. It is going to get picked on. And as someone who has made excuses for SHIELD I thought it was pretty funny.

It's fine that Honest Trailers might not be your cup of tea, but they didn't kick anyone's dog or kick granny down a flight of stairs. Honest Trailers isn't something anyone should be getting upset about.

 

[Warhammer]

It's not about taking it too seriously, it's about being funny. They do have legitimate funny trailers when the movie is awful (ie After Earth). But when they just start nitpicking a good or mediocre movie, it ain't funny. Or coming up with excuses for why the SHIELD show isn't that bad, it ain't funny either.

Come on, man. You can't get mad at Screen Junkies because they decide to joke a movie you like but love it when they joke movies you didn't. They are never outrageous or stretching. And like Marv said, it's not meant to be cruel.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Come on, man. You can't get mad at Screen Junkies because they decide to joke a movie you like but love it when they joke movies you didn't. They are never outrageous or stretching. And like Marv said, it's not meant to be cruel.

Who's mad?

They've just been lazy recently. No harm in saying that.

 

[Warhammer]

Who's mad?

They've just been lazy recently. No harm in saying that.

Oh, I gotcha. I don't know. I love all of their stuff. It's hilarious.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Going to be getting this on BD when it comes out on the 22nd. I personally enjoyed this, I just hope it holds up well to re-watches.

 

[Warhammer]

One good thing about re-watching the film was Bond being Bond. Daniel Craig is quite good at the quips and classic charm. The only bad thing is we didn't get as much for the first three films. I actually got used to the darker, brooding Bond.

 

[Vaibow]

What i loved out CR was that it felt fresh and different, whilst still being Bond. QOS was a let down in matching CR, but it was enjoyable, none the less. Skyfall to me, it was good, but it felt, it felt too watered down - whilst it had some great moments, it felt too hollywood - i appreciated the way they didn't go the typical Bond route, but still had bond elements to it, it looked an organic evolution to the typical bond film that would be.... Spectre - i was bored. I felt i and seen it all before, it felt like Craig's version of DAD, where it had all the homage to previous Connery and Moore movies, but not in Craig's own style.
I can forgive QOS due to the writers strike, i can say Skyfall was a different direction but Spectre just felt like a different narrative, a different time line - it didn't feel like it belonged to CR/Craig anthology.

Anyways, with that said - i would ideally prefer a reboot.

Whole new cast, have an established Bond and go play

 

[Warhammer]

What sucks is that established continuity. For the first 15 minutes, it's going to be jarring as hell to see a new Bond continuing where Craig left off. It's like Craig has to come back for the next one because of how they wrote Spectre and it's ending.

 

[Golgo-13]

This movie left the franchise in a mess. Bond retired, 00 section dismantled, etc..wtf were they thinking…..?

 

[AnneFan]

This movie left the franchise in a mess. Bond retired, 00 section dismantled, etc..wtf were they thinking…..?

I disagree it left the franchise in a mess. There are plenty of good ideas as to how Bond 25 can play out. They never explicitly state Bond retired - and if he did, it doesn't matter. He merely drives off with Madeleine. They can twist that plot any way they like. And the 00 section was not dismantled, but it was going to be replaced by Nine Eyes. Bond, Q and M averted that from happening.

 

[Vaibow]

I feel whatever they do, will seem rehashed.

Coming back from 'exile/retirement' was the main aspect of Skyfall.

Going rogue - hmmm, CR, QOS, SF and Spectre.

I think though, continuity has never really been the series strong point - with each new actor you just go with what you are given/told, in regards to his backstory. CR was obviously a reboot. Where as other actors you feel are just reimagined as it were.

Henry Cavill or Lucifer for me.

 

[Thundercrack85]

This movie left the franchise in a mess. Bond retired, 00 section dismantled, etc..wtf were they thinking…..?

Force the franchise to take a break, and reboot?

 

[Octoberist]

Reboot again? and again?