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James Bond: 007 - Spectre - Part 9

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1. Skyfall
2. Casino Royale
3. Quantum of Solace

I think it's really cool that by the end of Craig's run it's gonna be really divisive as to which is his best movie. I mean at the moment we all put QOS last but I like seeing that the other two pretty much split people in half in terms of preference. I'm also happy to hear that Sam Mendes played with tone and scope and it seems like he decided to take advantage of that fact the he is doing two Bond films in a row and is doing some things a little differently this time. Maybe not in plot but as Ebert said movie's are how they're about not what.
 
Octoberist said:
I think a part of it is that currently EON is has one foot in the 'Out of Touch' pool. Like they lucked out by bring in Craig, and getting Adele or even White/Keyes.

But then copying Bourne, the current somber tone, approving that Sam Smith song..it sometimes feels like what your parents interpretation of what's cool to the kids these days.

A good example on why they're out of touch is that EON turned down Mondo to create posters for Skyfall. For example, EON didn't like this:

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They aren't out of touch. They just realize what their priorities are. Apparently studios did group studies about poster art, and to the average movie goer traditional hand drawn posters of that style and the sort that Drew Struzan did are now viewed as "old-fashioned". To us geeks and especially to more artistically minded people the photoshoped posters are usually the epitome of ugliness, but to the average consumer those photoshoped posters promote a modern film, and that is what studios want to promote. Posters are meant to do one thing above all else. Catch the eye of someone and draw their interest towards the film the poster is promoting. A poster's artistic qualities and whether the poster would make a nice wall piece is an entirely secondary concern.

Its the same with dvd and blu-ray cover art. The cover isn't meant to be an art piece you'd want to frame. Its meant to catch the eye of a consumer that's passing through a store, and to get them to pick up the movie and give it a look. And most modern cover art accomplishes that.

They sometimes go the extra mile and make a pretty piece, but its not something they are always going to do not when most people don't dwell on the artistic merit of posters and cover art.

Studios have most consumers and viewers figured out fairly well and know what works on them.
 
Marvolo said:
To us geeks and especially to more artistically minded people the photoshoped posters are usually the epitome of ugliness, but to the average consumer those photoshoped posters promote a modern film, and that is what studios want to promote. Posters are meant to do one thing above all else. Catch the eye of someone and draw their interest towards the film the poster is promoting. A poster's artistic qualities and whether the poster would make a nice wall piece is an entirely secondary concern.
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Exactly.

And with the Skyfall and SPECTRE posters, the studios/filmmakers realise their greatest asset is Daniel Craig as James Bond. So they place him front and centre with basically nothing else around him - like character posters. We may want more, but that's all they have to do to sell the film.
 
Marvolo said:
They aren't out of touch. They just realize what their priorities are. Apparently studios did group studies about poster art, and to the average movie goer traditional hand drawn posters of that style and the sort that Drew Struzan did are now viewed as "old-fashioned". To us geeks and especially to more artistically minded people the photoshoped posters are usually the epitome of ugliness, but to the average consumer those photoshoped posters promote a modern film, and that is what studios want to promote. Posters are meant to do one thing above all else. Catch the eye of someone and draw their interest towards the film the poster is promoting. A poster's artistic qualities and whether the poster would make a nice wall piece is an entirely secondary concern.

Its the same with dvd and blu-ray cover art. The cover isn't meant to be an art piece you'd want to frame. Its meant to catch the eye of a consumer that's passing through a store, and to get them to pick up the movie and give it a look. And most modern cover art accomplishes that.

They sometimes go the extra mile and make a pretty piece, but its not something they are always going to do not when most people don't dwell on the artistic merit of posters and cover art.

Studios have most consumers and viewers figured out fairly well and know what works on them.
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So in short, the average person has s*** taste and the studios know it, so they rarely put effort in for posters anymore.
 
Totally agree with marvolo!
I was standing in line for some movie couple years ago..and there was this teaser poster for django unchained..

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..And two people in front of me were basically mocking the poster: "who designed this.. you cant even see whos in the movie lollol"

thats the average joe: title,actors,genre

its sad but the reality..

(and obviously the final django poster was not artistic like this one)
 
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Just finished listening to the score, I loved certain tracks, but overall I prefer Skyfall.


Eternal City, Donna Lucia, Secret Room, Reunion, Kite in a Hurricane, Blindfold, and Reunion are my favorites.
 
Skyfall
Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace

Very tied for me between SF and CR, but give the edge to SF for giving more depth to the character.
 
Skyfall
Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace

It's close, but I loved the anniversary aspects of SF and more importantly, Judi Dench's M getting such a poignant send off after being with the franchise for so long.
 
Much like TSWLM following TMWTGG, Skyfall was what the franchise needed to reinvigorate the era. Another lukewarm response wasn't going to be good enough. It had to be big, and it was.
 
I prefer Casino Royal over Skyfall.
 
Casino Royale
Skyfall
Quantum of Solace

but its all pretty close together.. i even quite like QoS (exept the shaky cam)
 
The Batman said:
Some reviews basically call Spectre a by the numbers Bond flick.

I'm not expecting too much innovation from this film. It seems like it'll be an Connery era Bond film mixed with Skyfall.
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Hopefully critics are judging it on its own terms as a more classic like Bond flick instead of just seeing it as a classic Bond flick and are criticizing it on those terms which is unfair. As long as it's very well executed for what it is, I won't have much complaints about it.

I'm okay with how that sounds though. That's the classic Bond I was kind of thinking would go into this film. Skyfall was moving into that anyway.
 
I wonder are they calling it a by the numbers Bond flick because it's starting to use more of the classic Bond movie tropes like Q, Moneypenny, souped up cars etc.
 
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