James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR" - Part 1

[Sawyer]

Is Avatar hating still a thing?

The only thing I really hate about it is that the Avatar technology has yet to be used in making a Gargoyles film.

 

[Octoberist]

Is Avatar hating still a thing?

Absolutely my man.

 

[jaymes_e06]

The only thing I really hate about it is that the Avatar technology has yet to be used in making a Gargoyles film.

Well that's one of the things I hate about it.

 

[roach]

The only thing I really hate about it is that the Avatar technology has yet to be used in making a Gargoyles film.

Disney:" We need something to turn into a movie franchise. Quick buy Marvel and Star Wars"
Intern: "What about Gargoyles or Duck Tales or Gummi Bears or Darkwing Duck or Mickey or ...."

 

[Sawyer]

Disney:" We need something to turn into a movie franchise. Quick buy Marvel and Star Wars"
Intern: "What about Gargoyles or Duck Tales or Gummi Bears or Darkwing Duck or Mickey or ...."

A Gummi Bears movie? Lawd....


LAAAAAAAWD.

 

[roach]

The amount of love they put into the Muppets could be used to bring Mickey back on the big screen.

 

[redhawk23]

There's nothing narratively groundbreaking about Avatar, but the story was solidly told, well structured, and well paced with few plot holes.

I agree.

There's a lot I like about the movie. I don't revisit it often though.

 

[dark_b]

Who does love iconic character Jake Sulley?

is Ryan Stone an iconic character? yet gravity is 10/10. t:

3 movies? is Cameron serious? Battle Angel is 20 years away.

 

[Teelie]

Is Avatar hating still a thing?

She probably isn't getting paid jack for Guardians. Good to see the awful acting will continue in the sequel

That would be an affirmative.

 

[Lord]

is Ryan Stone an iconic character? yet gravity is 10/10. t:

3 movies? is Cameron serious? Battle Angel is 20 years away.

30 years? Cameron will decide to do even more Avatar films

 

[redhawk23]

is Ryan Stone an iconic character? yet gravity is 10/10. t:

3 movies? is Cameron serious? Battle Angel is 20 years away.

The difference being that Gravity was relying far less on bare archetypes for its characters. If you're going to go that route, establishing iconography is pretty important.

 

[Loki882]

Wow, the ******** is strong with this thread. Anyway, I'm hoping that Cameron will come up with a more original story now that all of the setup is out of the way. His sequels tend to be better than the originals, so that's encouraging.

 

[Lord]

I was thinking about that even before the first film was released, i hope he delivers

 

[MrMaooz]

If this is Terminator 2 quality...then holy s**t!

 

[dark_b]

The difference being that Gravity was relying far less on bare archetypes for its characters. If you're going to go that route, establishing iconography is pretty important.

both Gravity and Avatar were honest movies from honest directors. both were 100% cliche and IMO both visual groundbreaking masterpieces.

the difference is Cameron has a big ego and 5 big(box office) movies. Alonso has only one and is the underdog. like Del Toro.


in my honest opinion.

 

[Schlosser85]

Weren't Worthington and Saldana confirmed to be returning all along? Why are they acting like that's news?

 

[xmangambit]

Right

First of all I'm the biggest James Cameron fan.

He makes quality old school hero films and this is what we need.

He's probably the only Director that can make a female Hero believable.

Now regards to AVatar, I like the way everyone jumps onboard the rape-train of just slagging it to hell because the story was done before.

So what?

It may have been done before but was it done in space on another planet?

Did it look as lush as Avatar? Doubt it.

A lo of films in the past 10 years have been Dark, moody, gritty, their color palette alone has been part of this dark knight nolan notion of having a lot of greys blacks and sepia.
Avatar was literally breath of fresh and subconsciously people felt it, that's why they enjoyed the visuals.

Also the CGI was next level in terms of advancement.

I can't believe people say Gollum is still the best CG character even after Avatar came out. The lip movement and everything down to the pores on the skin where a thing of beauty and one of the best things I've witnessed in cinema, this is the leap we needed.

Now in terms of the story.

You can't throw people into the deep end straight away, the film has potential for so much more sequels specially with them creating a planet.

There's room for so many more military base camps, secret ones we don' know of etc.

There's so much to do here, the first film was setting the foundations why can't people see this, now the foundations have been set the real fun is about to start.

People seem to forget this is the guy who did Aliens, and Terminator 2. Possibly the biggest sequels of all time with unlimited replay value, you could mention those films at any time and I would be like I need to watch that right now.

I've never seen Cameron do more than a sequel so I am nervous, I know and whole heartedly feel A2 is going to be so fun, the battle in the first film from ground to air back to ground again was amazing, and it wasn't these silly fights we get in films hat last 2-3 mins and bang done, this was an actual battle, it was amazing to watch.

So I'm clear for the sequel. 3-4 is where my only concern is will he draw it out, or will he find enough interesting context to fulfill us with, my imagination as an artist already hasn't tired me of ideas to what could be going on there, so I doubt he will have trouble.

I just don't want him to re-use same things for 4 films like the characters, I hated Sam Worthington, I think it would be great if he got killed off in 2 making way for more characters.

Quaritch - Unless Quaritch had a secret military Avatar bio-engineered for himself in case of an emergency I cn't really see him coming back unless he does a Sigourney weaver with the world tree.

OR - He actually cloned himself, we know that the avatar is made from human/na'vi DNA so maybe they have the ability to clone humans outright, which could lead to whole new idea of his return.

Or - using that further the Quaritch that we saw in Avatar was Actually Quaritch using an Avatar of himself somewhere else keeping his real self safe.

These ideas to me are great and people just not thinkning because they're too caught up in bashing the first film, come on people don't regress think out side the box for a moment. The films is also about freedom, and with current stuff going on with Net Neutrality, I just don't know anymore.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Weren't Worthington and Saldana confirmed to be returning all along? Why are they acting like that's news?

Perhaps because now they are gearing up for the shoot in order other words we are getting actual news of the sequels getting of the ground instead of months and months of " script is being written, annoteer writer had come aboard, relese date not certain etc ".

 

[Loki882]

Because the sequel has seemingly been in development forever, so to have 100% official confirmation is nice.

 

[dude stannis]

Weren't Worthington and Saldana confirmed to be returning all along? Why are they acting like that's news?

I'm assuming because pen has been officially put to paper.

 

[Teelie]

I think Avatar 4 is why they had to renegotiate contracts.

 

[OcStat]

All the people talking crap will still be in line when the movie is released. Who are they trying to kid?

 

[Snow Queen]

All the people talking crap will still be in line when the movie is released. Who are they trying to kid?

Not me. I'll just rent it when it's on Blu-ray.

 

[jacobed]

All the people talking crap will still be in line when the movie is released. Who are they trying to kid?

I won't be. I walked into Avatar jacked for it. And walked out thinking wow that was complete garbage. So no, I will not even think about going

 

[Teelie]

And yet you can't stop talking about it.