Jason Bourne

[Slushy]

Re: Aaron Cross hate

Bullsh**! If Matt Damon had starred in The Bourne Legacy instead, you all would've said it was the best Bourne sequel yet! FACT!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Re: Aaron Cross hate

Bullsh**! If Matt Damon had starred in The Bourne Legacy instead, you all would've said it was the best Bourne sequel yet! FACT!

That is in fact an OPINION.

 

[Marvolo]

Re: Aaron Cross hate

Bullsh**! If Matt Damon had starred in The Bourne Legacy instead, you all would've said it was the best Bourne sequel yet! FACT!

No I wouldnt have. FACT! See I can yell too.

Renner wasnt the issue with Legacy. The magical pills and stupid ass plot were the issue. It was more of a Hawkeye origin story than a Bourne film.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

They brought in a pretty blatant science fiction element to the franchise that just wasn't there before. I gave it a shot but it was a terrible idea that clashed with the tone of the franchise. Bourne is not a superhero franchise. Personally I found Cross to be a dull character and no I did not care for Renner's performance. Furthermore the film was largely unexciting and wasn't paced nearly as well as the other Bourne films.

 

[The Chris]

I have a problem with almost the entire film. The stupid pill angle, the dull direction and total feel of uselessness to the whole thing. Renner was the least of my problems, though i found Cross totally uninteresting.

 

[flickchick85]

Re: Aaron Cross hate

Bullsh**! If Matt Damon had starred in The Bourne Legacy instead, you all would've said it was the best Bourne sequel yet! FACT!

Matt Damon wouldn't have starred in Legacy because if he had, that means it would have been directed by Paul Greengrass, the guy who knows how to chop down Tony Gilroy's self-indulgent expositional dialogue to the minimal essentials, direct much more competently-shot action scenes and make a movie that was actually well-paced and exciting and completely unrecognizable from the one we got.

And yes, it wouldn't have had the stupid pill angle because Jason Bourne doesn't need that ****.

 

[chamber-music]

I like Renner but Aaron Cross was not an interesting character.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, I don't think that any actor could have made Aaron Cross into a good character.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

The Bourne Legacy was doomed the moment they opted to retain that title knowing Bourne himself was never going to appear. Royally (and rightfully so) pissed off audiences.

 

[Mysteryman]

That title probably also brought some people to the theatre, at least for the first weekend.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Yeah, I don't think that any actor could have made Aaron Cross into a good character.

Not even Tom Hardy?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Not even Tom Hardy?

He would have probably been more watchable no doubt. Not to dog Renner because he didn't write or direct the film.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I didn't think Renner did a bad job with the material. The movie would have been more than serviceable had it not been connected to the other Bourne films.

That was the films downfall plain and simple.

 

[Marvolo]

Even as a standalone film it would be terrible.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I don't think so. I actually liked the first half of the film. I didn't mind the opening at all.

I think most of the bad will came from its Bourne connection. Either way it'd be a different film if it wasn't connected to Bourne.

 

[Octoberist]

I thought Legacy which is the new "Rise" with movie titles was okay.

 

[godisawesome]

One of my friends was hoping they'd actually tie Legacy in with the old films, and I kind of agreed with him. It would be very fun to contrast the two characters as a kind of reliable Ak-47 super agent vs the space age super-prototype super agent.

Yeah, Legacy wasn't too hot, but seeing consequences play out is havoc the fun of movies.

 

[flickchick85]

Honestly, I am still hoping they address the Pam Landy thing from Legacy. She was one of the best supporting characters of the series, and it would be a shame to see her go out like that, imo.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Legacy is a decent film, it's well shot, Renner is solid, and HEY, it's got Oscar Isaac in it, not for a long time, but still. That alone redeems it

 

[Doctor Jones]

Man, they went for an even more generic title than I thought. Of course in this era of brand recognition, why the hell not just call it Jason Bourne.

EDIT: Though reading Rowsdower's post, that also is a very good point.

 

[TheVileOne]

They went with the John Rambo, Rocky Balboa format.

 

[The Caped Knight]

ONE PUNCH! he's down for the count that's JASON BOURNE!!!

 

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...captain-america-star-trek-x-men-more#/slide/6

 

[TheVileOne]

Renner and Aaron Cross were big problems for me. I wasn't invested in Renner's performance, and the character was very problematic. I think the idea was that they wanted someone who was a lot different than Jason Bourne to try and move out of his shadow, but everyone really just wanted Jason Bourne back.

I maintain that it was the height of arrogance to try and move on with the franchise without Damon. If you really look at it, Damon never completely closed the book on the franchise and always sounded open to a return anyway. It was always just about Greengrass coming back and the right script.

Universal tried to cut them out of the equation, and it failed.

Even Tom Hardy wouldn't have helped Bourne Legacy as much because the script was also very flawed. Just for example, Legacy is basically missing a third act. The movie ends abruptly and the ending feels more like an ending for a second act than a whole film. The Bourne films generally have strong third act finales.

Not to mention Legacy undoes pretty much everything at the end of Ultimatum. So it's basically leaves you like, "What the hell?" The Bourne Ultimatum ended on this awesome really energetic moment. Bourne was able to get some retribution against his tormenters. The bad guys were exposed and getting arrested. But then the next film arrives and they all get off scot free, and Pamela Landy is now getting incarcerated.

My problem with all that is that the movie just made that all happen, and ends with Renner just disappearing into nowhere with his new would-be girlfriend. He doesn't care about any of this. So it's like, "dude all the bad guys are getting away and you aren't doing anything."

 

[Fallen Angel]

JasonBourne features best chase of series, says producer http://bit.ly/1SNfJe8

Bourne 5 footage was shown at Cinemacon.

Frank Marshall promised a CinemaCon crowd Wednesday that the next installment, entitled “Jason Bourne,” will feature the greatest getaway of all. Matt Damon’s title character travels the globe but ends up right in the front yard of this week’s movie exhibitors confab — the Las Vegas Strip — for the big pursuit. A small snippet showed cars roaring past showgirls and right into a casino’s front door. “We are staging what I think is the best Bourne chase ever,” said Marshall, “so we have that to look forward to.”
The film brings back director Paul Greengrass, along with Damon and other familiar characters and newcomers, including Julia Stiles, Tommy Lee Jones and Alicia Vikander.
It’s been almost ten years since the last sequel in Universal’s Jason Bourne series, but the next installment is coming in late July for a simple reason, says Marshall: “We wanted to get the story just right.” Marshall said at another session of the movie confab that the updated plot line will bring in elements gleaned from Wikileaks and the Edward Snowden hacking furor.
The first look offered by Universal Wednesday evening showed a Bourne just as lethally efficient, and tormented, as in previous versions, in 2002, 2004 and 2007’s “The Bourne Ultimatum.” There was a 2012 spinoff film featuring Jeremy Renner as another lethally efficient killer, that Marshall said earlier this week, will exist in the same universe as this latest sequel.


In “Jason Bourne,” our hero still flattens opponents in a single punch. Fusillades of machine gun fire slow him not a whit. But he still seems to struggle with what his work as a rogue foreign service officer all means.
The new excerpt begins with Bourne lying on his bed, brooding about his past misadventures. He encounters the CIA agent Nicky, played by Stiles, who helps agents deal with the fallout from past assignments. Bourne assures Nicky: “I remember everything.” Her retort: “Remembering everything doesn’t mean you know everything.”


It’s not only caring lady agents who are after Bourne for answers. Jones, playing CIA director Robert Dewey, tells the struggling super agent: “You are never going to find any peace, not until you admit who you really are.” Audiences will have to wait until July 29 to see whether Bourne is capable of a happily-ever-after.