Jessica Jones Jessica Jones General Discussion Thread

[BatsDC]

Daredevil will likely drop a similar time to this year, so mid-April. I wouldn't be surprised if Luke Cage dropped mid-June.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

It would be pretty awesome if they were cranking out 3-4 Marvel Netflix shows each year and 3-4 movies!

 

[pixen]

It would be pretty awesome if they were cranking out 3-4 Marvel Netflix shows each year and 3-4 movies!

I'll take quality over quantity and think they do too. Putting out that much in a year would be over saturation. People wouldn't be craving Marvel film/tv products as much because of it. It'd be tiring.

 

[Lilbaz]

I'll take quality over quantity and think they do too. Putting out that much in a year would be over saturation. People wouldn't be craving Marvel film/tv products as much because of it. It'd be tiring.

How many cop tv shows/films are there every year.?If the quality is good,people will watch them although they will also need to be unique.

 

[pixen]

How many cop tv shows/films are there every year.?If the quality is good,people will watch them although they will also need to be unique.

That's because a cop show is not very different. Look at all the Law and Orders. How many are still being produced? The more series they started up the less popular they all became. SVU being the only one left as it was the only one really pulling in the ratings in the end. Same thing happened with CSI. Look at celebrities. Chris Pratt is at the top of his game right now with the general audience. If he starts appearing in every movie that comes out, his love will fade and people will get sick of him. Over-saturation and the quality will also fade if they are pumping out so many things, 4 movies and 4 Netflix series a year.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I'll take quality over quantity and think they do too. Putting out that much in a year would be over saturation. People wouldn't be craving Marvel film/tv products as much because of it. It'd be tiring.

Marvel has already stated the plan (if phase 3 goes well) is to crank out 3-4 movies a year and with the masses reactions to the quality of DD as well as fast tracking season 2 I see no reason why they can't do the same for Netflix. Also considering the different mediums it really won't be over-saturation. Marvel has the money to make sure the quality is there in each of their projects so as long as they find the right people to direct the movies and the right showrunner for the shows as well as having Feige pulling all the strings behind the scenes keeping it all connected it would be a win/win for everyone

 

[BarryAllen]

Marvel has already stated the plan (if phase 3 goes well) is to crank out 3-4 movies a year and with the masses reactions to the quality of DD as well as fast tracking season 2 I see no reason why they can't do the same for Netflix. Also considering the different mediums it really won't be over-saturation. Marvel has the money to make sure the quality is there in each of their projects so as long as they find the right people to direct the movies and the right showrunner for the shows as well as having Feige pulling all the strings behind the scenes keeping it all connected it would be a win/win for everyone

Because Marvel has a limited amount of resources and staff to ensure that they can put out quality shows and content without going out of control. Yeah, Marvel is backed by Disney, but like Pixar, they are self-operated and it's a very small company. If you take a look at the characters they choose for live action projects, it isn't the most popular characters that get chosen. It's the ones that are the most unique. That's why Guardians of the Galxy or the Inhumans get made into movies before She-hulk or Sentry. It's why lesser known characters that comic fans might've looked over like Jessica Jones, Luke Cage or Iron Fist get their own shows while Punisher, Elektra and Moon Knight don't. It's about storytelling options and differentiating from what the rest of the market can provide. When someone tells you how awesome Moon Knight is, 9/10 times they say "like Batman, but more insane". And that's exactly right. Moon Knight has the same tropes that Batman already covers. She-hulk brings nothing new to the table that already has Hulk and Daredevil. But you can't say that there is anything out there right now that is like Luke Cage or Iron Fist. That's why certain properties are chosen, and others not. I can bet one of the reasons Punisher is showing up in Daredevil is because Marvel didn't think he was viable enough to hold his own show right now because of past movies and because the numerous other movies and tv shows that deal with characters who kill with guns because of their past grievances.

Sometimes comic fans go overboard with the demands they have. There's nothing wrong with having wants as a fan, but think about the bigger picture.

 

[pixen]

Because Marvel has a limited amount of resources and staff to ensure that they can put out quality shows and content without going out of control. Yeah, Marvel is backed by Disney, but like Pixar, they are self-operated and it's a very small company. If you take a look at the characters they choose for live action projects, it isn't the most popular characters that get chosen. It's the ones that are the most unique. That's why Guardians of the Galxy or the Inhumans get made into movies before She-hulk or Sentry. It's why lesser known characters that comic fans might've looked over like Jessica Jones, Luke Cage or Iron Fist get their own shows while Punisher, Elektra and Moon Knight don't. It's about storytelling options and differentiating from what the rest of the market can provide. When someone tells you how awesome Moon Knight is, 9/10 times they say "like Batman, but more insane". And that's exactly right. Moon Knight has the same tropes that Batman already covers. She-hulk brings nothing new to the table that already has Hulk and Daredevil. But you can't say that there is anything out there right now that is like Luke Cage or Iron Fist. That's why certain properties are chosen, and others not. I can bet one of the reasons Punisher is showing up in Daredevil is because Marvel didn't think he was viable enough to hold his own show right now because of past movies and because the numerous other movies and tv shows that deal with characters who kill with guns because of their past grievances.

Sometimes comic fans go overboard with the demands they have. There's nothing wrong with having wants as a fan, but think about the bigger picture.

Thank you. You wrote basically what I was trying to say and then some. A very good post.

On a different note, looks like they are still filming Jessica Jones!

 

[Dave McFly]

I adore Krysten, really looking forward to this cannot wait til it hits Netflix

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Because Marvel has a limited amount of resources and staff to ensure that they can put out quality shows and content without going out of control. Yeah, Marvel is backed by Disney, but like Pixar, they are self-operated and it's a very small company. If you take a look at the characters they choose for live action projects, it isn't the most popular characters that get chosen. It's the ones that are the most unique. That's why Guardians of the Galxy or the Inhumans get made into movies before She-hulk or Sentry. It's why lesser known characters that comic fans might've looked over like Jessica Jones, Luke Cage or Iron Fist get their own shows while Punisher, Elektra and Moon Knight don't. It's about storytelling options and differentiating from what the rest of the market can provide. When someone tells you how awesome Moon Knight is, 9/10 times they say "like Batman, but more insane". And that's exactly right. Moon Knight has the same tropes that Batman already covers. She-hulk brings nothing new to the table that already has Hulk and Daredevil. But you can't say that there is anything out there right now that is like Luke Cage or Iron Fist. That's why certain properties are chosen, and others not. I can bet one of the reasons Punisher is showing up in Daredevil is because Marvel didn't think he was viable enough to hold his own show right now because of past movies and because the numerous other movies and tv shows that deal with characters who kill with guns because of their past grievances.

Sometimes comic fans go overboard with the demands they have. There's nothing wrong with having wants as a fan, but think about the bigger picture.

Woah slow down there Kemosabi. Nobody ever stated Marvel should just flood the market because they are having success. I agree with what you stated about the properties Marvel has chosen and what they plan to offer for the future, that's part of why they have been so successful in the first place. But we are talking about a multi-billion dollar company backed by one of the largest and richest corporations in the world. This ain't no dog and pony show we are talking about. Feige is the guiding hand here and a huge part of why Marvel Studios has been able to do what they have done. He has already stated they plan on doing 3-4 movies a year if they continue to be this successful. I forget which year it is coming up in phase 3 but one of them will have 3 Marvel films. You can obviously see they are testing the waters for the future. Feige understands it's all about finding the right person with the right vision for each project and then once their picked they are given some guidelines but more or less have free reign.

Now when it comes to Netflix that's a whole different animal than putting out tent pole films. Netflix itself is in the process of trying to put out as much quality original content as they can right now. We already saw the success of DD and they fast tracked season 2 before most of us could blink. Now let's think of this logically. DD is a hit, let's assume Jessica Jones is a smash hit as well. By that point Luke Cage will be filming. What's to stop them from pressing the button on season 2 of Jess? Then let's assume Luke is a hit as well and then Iron Fist as well. These shows are all self contained from a production standpoint. They each have all their own people to take care of anything they need and assuming they are all hits and making both Marvel and Netflix money as well as keeping fans and the GA happy why would they limit themselves?

Now let's take into account the Defenders mini. This is going to bring all the characters together for an epic adventure. Let's assume that for some weird reason Defenders is a flop and nobody likes it. Well guess what? All these characters can continue in their own speed are shows and do crossovers whenever they want. Now let's assume Defenders is a breakout hit just like Marvel has done so many times in the past 12 or so years. That seems to be the much more likely scenario and if thats the case well now we have 1 show that can combine all 4 popular characters and they still have the option to do a solo show if they feel it's warranted. At this point they can then bring more G-list characters that have no shot at ever getting into the films and see if they can hold their own Netflix show as well. What makes all this even better is at any point someone from the movies could pop up or they could have the characters show up in one of the films.

You have to remember Netflix is currently waging war with cable TV and if they have the power of Marvel behind them cranking out epic shows that people will be talking about at the water coolers which then leads to more subscribers they are going to milk that cow for all its worth. Of course Feige isn't stupid enough to green light shows just because but as they slowly build the Netflix side of the MCU they have a lot more freedom to do what they want for a much cheaper price.

 

[HunBoy]

 

[Hypestyle]

hm. still the purple (outfit only) man.. hmm..

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, it's possible they'll modify it in post-production, but I'm guessing his skin will stay the same color.

 

[Norek]

I sincerely hope they don't mess up with any skin colors in post-production or anything... I like that he's not purple-skinned, please keep it that way.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Normally I'm all for sticking as close to the source as possible but in this instance I think not doing his skin purple would make sense. The MCU is pretty close to our real world with some key differences but I think most people would be a bit weirded out to see some guy walking around with purple skin. Either way they go though it won't make much difference to me

 

[Mike Murdock]

I personally like the Purple Man being purple. But I recognize it could take people out of the series. That's why I hope they at least try and experiment editing it in post to see whether it kills the suspension of disbelief, but I'm glad they didn't give him purple makeup and would be stuck with it.

 

[Loki882]

Yeah the MCU is "close to the real world." What with the talking, gun-toting Space Raccoon, the nerdy scientist who turns into an enormous green rage monster when he gets angry, the Twins with powers that they got from a glowy space rock of near-infinite power, the glowing lava people with their grab-bag of fire powers from IM3, the guy who's head was literally a blood-red skull, etc. Yes totally "real world."

Seriously, all that is fine, but a guy with purple skin is "too weird?" Okkkkk?

 

[Mike Murdock]

I do think the Marvel universe's tone varies from project to project and that's a good thing. That being said, if his purple skin is good enough for Brian Michael Bendis, it's good enough for the audience. Bendis, particularly back then, was often focused on making grounded villains. Killgrave wasn't out of place for Jessica Jones (who is about acknowledging and then subverting superhero tropes).

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Yeah the MCU is "close to the real world." What with the talking, gun-toting Space Raccoon, the nerdy scientist who turns into an enormous green rage monster when he gets angry, the Twins with powers that they got from a glowy space rock of near-infinite power, the glowing lava people with their grab-bag of fire powers from IM3, the guy who's head was literally a blood-red skull, etc. Yes totally "real world."

Seriously, all that is fine, but a guy with purple skin is "too weird?" Okkkkk?

The MCU General public have only recently been exposed to aliens and supervlians with the last decade or so. As opposed to the 616 where a plot for world domination happens every Thursday and seeing super Gillian's and henchman are basically an every day occurance for their general public

 

[jolldan]

I've been reading up on the Purple Man.

Sounds like an awesome villain and to make it even better a fellow Scotsmen playing him. Best of luck to David although he doesn't need it.

Can't wait for this after how good Daredevil was.

 

[chamber-music]

They will probably have his eyes glow purple or something when he commands people.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

They will probably have his eyes glow purple or something when he commands people.

i was about to say this

like when he has them under control, he'll appear to them in their POV all in a haze/blurry/purple

would be a nice compromise

still wondering how he gets his powers though. we haven't had a telepath yet and scarlet witch's stuff is from loki scepter experiments

 

[kedrell]

i was about to say this

like when he has them under control, he'll appear to them in their POV all in a haze/blurry/purple

would be a nice compromise

still wondering how he gets his powers though. we haven't had a telepath yet and scarlet witch's stuff is from loki scepter experiments

I was actually suspecting that they'd do it the other way around. Since anyone in the vacinity of Kilgrave is close enough to be effected by his power, he'd simply appear to all of them as a normal looking man unless he wished them not to see him that way. But cameras and such would show him as he really is complete with purple hued skin and all and this is how he'd appear if his powers were neutralized, like when he's in a SHIELD prison.

And as I understand it his powers are just a classic case of an accident such as DD, Hulk, Spider-man, etc.

 

[kedrell]

I'd say the MCU is still a bit more grounded than the comics. It's just the nature of the differences in the mediums. We take lots of things for granted in comics and animation that would need to be explained better in live action to be acceptable.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I was actually suspecting that they'd do it the other way around. Since anyone in the vacinity of Kilgrave is close enough to be effected by his power, he'd simply appear to all of them as a normal looking man unless he wished them not to see him that way. But cameras and such would show him as he really is complete with purple hued skin and all and this is how he'd appear if his powers were neutralized, like when he's in a SHIELD prison.

I think there's a way to split the difference. Have him appear normal skinned for the most part, but appear purple when he reveals who he is to someone (who he's about to mind-control). I agree that, at the end, if he's depowered (or dead, frankly), he should appear purple.