BvS Jimmy Olson (spoilers)

[Iceman]

Haha, without SHH I wouldn't even know he was in the film.

 

[Reel-Man]

Unless he releases the extended cut, do you think he'll pretend that wasn't Jimmy if he does decide to bring the character properly into play for the next movies?

 

[Poni_Boy]

“I thought, if it were Jesse Eisenberg and he got out and he goes, ‘I’m Jimmy Olsen,’ you’d be like, oh my God, we’re gonna have Jimmy Olsen in the whole movie, right?’” Snyder says. “And then if he got shot, you’d just be like, ‘What!? You can’t do that.’”

This quote has been bugging me for a few days. Felt very familiar, didn't know why. Introduce a well known actor, kill him off in a shocking scene at the beginning of the movie. Now I know where he got the idea. Sounds just like

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Unless he releases the extended cut, do you think he'll pretend that wasn't Jimmy if he does decide to bring the character properly into play for the next movies?

Jimmy Olsen is too good too hope for

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Unless he releases the extended cut, do you think he'll pretend that wasn't Jimmy if he does decide to bring the character properly into play for the next movies?

lol so we'll have Jimmy Olsen Mk3 in the next movie then?

 

[gdw]

“I thought, if it were Jesse Eisenberg and he got out and he goes, ‘I’m Jimmy Olsen,’ you’d be like, oh my God, we’re gonna have Jimmy Olsen in the whole movie, right?’” Snyder says. “And then if he got shot, you’d just be like, ‘What!? You can’t do that.’”

This quote has been bugging me for a few days. Felt very familiar, didn't know why. Introduce a well known actor, kill him off in a shocking scene at the beginning of the movie. Now I know where he got the idea. Sounds just like

That would be similar, though not a known character, just a known actor.
Also done in Scream, with Drew Barrymore, itself in homage to Hitchcock doing it with Janet Leigh in Psycho.

Now, if Snyder wanted to do this in a way that actually WORKED, and served the story, rather than elf serving, it was with "Jimmy," then it should have been Lucius Fox in the Wayne building, NOT some random character we have zero connection to, and we know nothing of his connection with Bruce, just some guy named Jack.

Now THAT would have played with the audiences expectations, while serving the story, and the characters, using a character they probably ACTUALLY have no room for in the story directions they're going.

Lucius would have been the perfect character for this, as he was such an integral part of the Nolan films. Over utilizing him in the Bat stories moving forward would feel redundant, especially considering how much they're already emphasizing the solidarity with which Bruce and Alfred have been working.
This is a Bruce who has alienated himself from everyone BUT Alfred. Not only is Robin dead, but we get the feeling any other Bat-Family, if they exist, have moved on/distanced themselves from Bruce. Or rather he's distanced himself form them.

Such a Bruce could have still had Lucius, along with Alfred, and having Lucius violently taken from him would have MUCH better served the story, and Bruce's blind rage vendetta. Made it even more believable that he was blinded from the fact that he was wrong, and making it personal, rather than actually for the greater good.

 

[Lencho01]

Ask Chris #118: What’s So Great About Jimmy Olsen?

Ask Chris #179: The Jimmy Olsen – Robin War!

 

[Spider-jedi]

This just shows Zack misunderstood what fans like about superman. This superman has no friends. just his mom and lois outside of that he i mean clark is a bad character. he doesnt have anyone he get a beer with. Jimmy is man friend. everyguy has a man friend

 

[Mindreaper21]

Batman is his friend. Jimmy would have just created more plot holes for people to complain about.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

This just shows Zack misunderstood what fans like about superman. This superman has no friends. just his mom and lois outside of that he i mean clark is a bad character. he doesnt have anyone he get a beer with. Jimmy is man friend. everyguy has a man friend

Agreed.

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

Batman is his friend. Jimmy would have just created more plot holes for people to complain about.

You mean it would've required them to try and write better? Let's just kill him off instead.good call.

 

[Mindreaper21]

You mean it would've required them to try and write better? Let's just kill him off instead.good call.

At least we got a chance to see him. At least he did exist in this universe. Robin is dead, but no one really complains, because we saw it in an iconic story in the comics. Though Jimmy gets killed in a movie, an elseworlds story, and people lose their minds. It has nothing to do with writing better. At all.

 

[FunkMiller]

Though Jimmy gets killed in a movie, an elseworlds story, and people lose their minds.

This isn't meant to be an Elseworlds story. This is meant to be the core DC universe on screen. Dragging that excuse out for the failings of this flick is the worst kind of justification. Elseworlds by definition present the DC superheroes in situations significantly removed from the norm. Superman as a Russian, Batman as a Lantern etc. etc. That's not what this movie is, and not what Zack Snyder intended it to be - unless you can quote me an interview when anyone involved stated that this was 'Elseworlds'.
Killing Jimmy is such a fashion is a tone-deaf, lunk-headed move from a film maker who's in love with his own cleverness far more than he is in love with the characters he's making movies about.

 

[Mindreaper21]

This isn't meant to be an Elseworlds story. This is meant to be the core DC universe on screen. Dragging that excuse out for the failings of this flick is the worst kind of justification. Elseworlds by definition present the DC superheroes in situations significantly removed from the norm. Superman as a Russian, Batman as a Lantern etc. etc. That's not what this movie is, and not what Zack Snyder intended it to be - unless you can quote me an interview when anyone involved stated that this was 'Elseworlds'.
Killing Jimmy is such a fashion is a tone-deaf, lunk-headed move from a film maker who's in love with his own cleverness far more than he is in love with the characters he's making movies about.

The films are not, nor will they ever be, cannon. They are never intended to be exactly like the comics. DCEU literally tells you that it's an alternate universe; alternate world; Elseworld. Is this also not removed from the norm? It's people that have high expectations for these films to be comicbook cut outs that get disappointed the most. It's not like he killed anyone really important, like Lois.

 

[Black Adam]

Killing Jimmy, the way he did, the why he did, is just wrong. So, so wrong.

 

[FunkMiller]

It's not like he killed anyone really important, like Lois.

Oh, good lord.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Black Adam]

It's not like he killed anyone really important, like Lois.

 

[Mindreaper21]

If it didn't happen here, it would have happened it the comics eventually. It's not like Jimmy or any other character can't be killed. For all I know, Gordon could be next. Will it suck? Sure. Will I go into a fit? No. That's because I know that characters, good and bad, die in movies and tv series' all the time. It doesn't mean that the characters are gone forever.

 

[samsnee]

As long as it's not Krypto man. You're not allowed to kill the dog.

 

[FunkMiller]

If it didn't happen here, it would have happened it the comics eventually. It's not like Jimmy or any other character can't be killed. For all I know, Gordon could be next. Will it suck? Sure. Will I go into a fit? No. That's because I know that characters, good and bad, die in movies and tv series' all the time. It doesn't mean that the characters are gone forever.

No. But Jimmy Olsen, one of Superman's most well known allies and a firm staple of the comics as much as Robin is in Batman, is now permanently dead in the only on screen DC shared universe you're ever getting.

 

[Black Adam]

No. But Jimmy Olsen, one of Superman's most well known allies and a firm staple of the comics as much as Robin is in Batman, is now permanently dead in the only on screen DC shared universe you're ever getting.

Not only is he dead, he got killed after 10 seconds of screen time.

 

[Enriquespy]

No. But Jimmy Olsen, one of Superman's most well known allies and a firm staple of the comics as much as Robin is in Batman, is now permanently dead in the only on screen DC shared universe you're ever getting.

Well, he died in Smallville too, and they found a way around it...

 

[X Knight]

Jimmy isn't allowed to be Superman's friend since Jimmy's mom's name isn't Martha.

 

[metaphysician]

Not only is he dead, he got killed after 10 seconds of screen time.

And for no actual purpose in the story. Simply Snyder's own personal amusement, wherein anything he doesn't want to use can be freely smashed.

 

[Mindreaper21]

No. But Jimmy Olsen, one of Superman's most well known allies and a firm staple of the comics as much as Robin is in Batman, is now permanently dead in the only on screen DC shared universe you're ever getting.

Indeed he is, but it was a wtf moment that doesn't really bother me. Had Jimmy been around since Mos and got killed, maybe it would have. I'm surprised no one has complained about Superman not caring about Jimmy dying. He took that pretty easy.