Justice League JL Runtime Thread. Yay? Or Nay?

[Cats]

I hope the reason for cutting JL down isn't to cater for the people who complain that a 3 hour movie isn't good for their bladders :P

 

[AnneFan]

The new Thor movie is meant to be even shorter than JL, right?

 

[MbJ]

I hope the reason for cutting JL down isn't to cater for the people who complain that a 3 hour movie isn't good for their bladders :P

I've seen many snide remarks about how audiences are too stupid/lazy/ADD to handle 3 hour movies but I think people seem to be missing that it's more of a profit thing than audiences. Longer movies mean less showings. When Pirates of the Caribbean 3 came out there was talk of theater owners being pissed that it was pushing 3 hours because it meant they couldn't book as many showings, which meant less money. Not surprisingly, Pirates 3 ended up grossing less than its predecessor despite being billed as the epic conclusion to the trilogy.

That is the core reason you don't see many 3 hour 100 million dollar blockbusters, not because audiences are too stupid to pay attention to them.

The new Thor movie is meant to be even shorter than JL, right?

It's actually few minutes longer at 2 hours and 10 minutes. The director had previously said he wanted it under 2 hours, but that seems to have changed.

 

[BigThor]

The new Thor movie is meant to be even shorter than JL, right?

Thor: Ragnarok is 2 hours and 10 minutes.

 

[sf2]

nay. not happy.

 

[TheScarecrow]

But now I’ll have to adjust expectation on team dynamic because no way in hell they can develop all of them in that timeframe.

This is the biggest myth about these types of movies.

The original X-Men had 1.5 hours to introduce Wolverine, Jean Grey, Storm, Rogue, Professor X, Ice-man, Cyclops, etc. and did it just fine.

The reason these movies are getting bogged down is because everyone is acting like we need a full origin movie for each of these characters embedded in this story. It's enough to introduce the Flash as a guy who got superpowers and can run fast, and introduce his characters through the rest of the team.

The 2 hour runtime, the removal of Iris, Lex, Barry's Dad and other characters is nothing but good news for this film.

Batman v Superman was killed by plot diversions and set ups for future films.


This show's they've made the film focused and tight.

 

[AnneFan]

Yeah, I've accepted the runtime now.

 

[Loki882]

I don't think that using X-Men as a justification really works. Since one of the biggest complaints about that film, and most of them for that matter, is that most of the X-Men DON'T get enough screentime or characterization.

It's a freaking JL movie, it doesn't need to be "focused and tight." It needs to be grand, big, and epic.

 

[TheVileOne]

Man of Steel and Batman v Superman poisoned the well. Hence the shorter runtime.

So if you are unhappy with the runtime...you know who to blame .

 

[2kt09]

Man of Steel and Batman v Superman poisoned the well. Hence the shorter runtime.

So if you are unhappy with the runtime...you know who to blame .

Skwad!!!

Spoiler

 

[TheVileOne]

These movies are very frontloaded, so they want to get as many screenings as possible. Longer movies make that tougher.

Many are pointing at the long running time for Blade Runner 2049 for its weak box office at 2 hours 43 minutes. I wouldn't say that's the only reason, but it's an attitude studios often take.

Many people were not happy with how long Batman v Superman was. It was such a long dark and dreary movie.

 

[BigThor]

Many people were not happy with how long Batman v Superman was. It was such a long dark and dreary movie.

BVS was a pain to sit through, they definitely focused TOO much on setting up other films (and too Batman heavy for my taste).

I loved Man of Steel though by far my favorite Superman film.

 

[Gu3ree]

Here's the thing that irritates me. Whether it's Whedon or the studio that thinks cutting the film to make it shorter will make it more family-friendly, I disapprove.

But also...cutting the film to make it shorter for the sake of being shorter, thus to sell more tickets, then I strongly disapprove.

If they Warner Bros thinks we were complaining because we wanted a shorter film, then they were dead wrong. If they really think that's the case, then they are stupid. Batman v Superman could have reached a billion dollars. It didn't make a billion because the film was a disappointment. But it still made a great deal of box office money simply because it was the first time a Batman and Superman movie had been made. So it was guaranteed to make big bucks, do doubt.

Justice League can too, if the film ends up being good, then people will want to see it again. Most people that I know of didn't see BvS too many times after the first viewing.

But when it all comes down to it, if the final edited version looks like a better film, then I will approve. In the case that is if Snyder's cut was a rough cut, and unfinished, and maybe had some scenes that dragged too long and needed to be cut, then I will accept the official runtime. Hopefully it's good.

I admit a lot of scenes in the ultimate cut of BvS were good, but some of the extended scenes I thought were unnecessary. While I would have preferred a longer movie like Batman v Superman, I would have liked it to feature those two title characters more with more to do than the rest of the characters themselves.

 

[TheScarecrow]

But when it all comes down to it, if the final edited version looks like a better film, then I will approve. In the case that is if Snyder's cut was a rough cut, and unfinished, and maybe had some scenes that dragged too long and needed to be cut, then I will accept the official runtime. Hopefully it's good.

Mate that's what Snyder does.

How much of BvS was distracting side-plots unrelated to the actual story? It would be shorter than JL if we took out all the stuff that didn't need to be there.

 

[TheScarecrow]

I don't think that using X-Men as a justification really works. Since one of the biggest complaints about that film, and most of them for that matter, is that most of the X-Men DON'T get enough screentime or characterization.

It's a freaking JL movie, it doesn't need to be "focused and tight." It needs to be grand, big, and epic.

All movies - by their nature - should be "focused and tight".

This isn't a comic book - and whether fans like it or not, movies need to have 1 or 2 main characters - not 6.

Again - this is why so many comic book movies are bloated messes lately.

Flash, Aquaman etc. may need to be supporting characters until they get their solo films.

 

[Frodo]

At this point I can't really say yay or nay till I see the film. If the film is good, and the characters get a sufficient amount of time to really make a good impression in the shorter run time, it won't matter.

If the film has gaping holes, things don't make sense, and it clearly feels like something is missing, or edited badly ala BvS and SS, then that's really not gonna help WB all that much.

Hopefully the end result is tight, coherent , and good, as opposed to tight, incoherent, and mediocre to bad.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

The run-time is 4hrs and 22mins

Wonder Woman & Justice League Double Features in Regal Cinemas

 

[BigThor]

The run-time is 4hrs and 22mins

Wonder Woman & Justice League Double Features

Niceeeee

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Mate that's what Snyder does.

How much of BvS was distracting side-plots unrelated to the actual story? It would be shorter than JL if we took out all the stuff that didn't need to be there.

None, except for the JL promo videos Diana watches near the end.

 

[markjoedelonge]

The run-time is 4hrs and 22mins

Wonder Woman & Justice League Double Features in Regal Cinemas

Lol shouldn't it be a BvS and JL double feature? Are they that ashamed of BvS?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Lol shouldn't it be a BvS and JL double feature? Are they that ashamed of BvS?

Wonder Woman is still fresh in the minds of the GA and the fans (it's still running in discount theaters/2nd run theaters), so it does make a lot sense to have WW & JL double features. Plus as much as I love BvS UE, I really don't think watching the movie in theaters makes any sense because we'll be shown the theatrical version by default and I doubt even the ardent fans of the movie wants to watch the inferior version again. It was WB's fault to begin with but I still hope they are abandoning it.

 

[markjoedelonge]

Wonder Woman is still fresh in the minds of the GA and the fans (it's still running in discount theaters/2nd run theaters), so it does make a lot sense to have WW & JL double features. Plus as much as I love BvS UE, I really don't think watching the movie in theaters makes any sense because we'll be shown the theatrical version by default and I doubt even the ardent fans of the movie wants to watch the inferior version again. It was WB's fault to begin with but I still hope they are abandoning it.

Yup I agree.

 

[Wheels]

Nay. I'd much rather it be longer. Twitter wackos aren't going to get more scenes put in though lol.

 

[BigThor]

Nay. I'd much rather it be longer. Twitter wackos aren't going to get more scenes put in though lol.

Awesome signature I LOVE Rick & Morty.

 

[Wheels]

Awesome signature I LOVE Rick & Morty.

Thanks