The Dark Knight Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[my0pic_spidey]

while i think Glover has the look, he just doens't plain have the voice. Even if we ignore TAS and any other Batman media and go only by the comics, he still doesn't have a voice you would expect from a character like the Joker. I cant imagine him making sick, twisted jokes, then laughing his ass off at them like a maniac.

Mark Hamill, on the other hand, has the voice. His voice fits the persona of the character perfectly. If he lost a little weight, since the makeup would hide his age, he would do perfect! I could do with him not looking 100% like the character, as long as we got a creepy, sadistic, dark portrayal of him i'm happy.

dear friend you have no idea who is crispin glover,do you? not only is he truly insane thAT does it for the joker he has the creepy sadistic looks,the height,and the voice for the prince of clowns.Plus he is never too old.in Willard he was controlling the mice to do his dirty bid,and you should have seen the maniacal look on his face when he's enjoying it.He'll pull off as this serious maniac who does sadistic things that just ain't funny but will give u the chills.

 

[dogsgotlipstick]

mark hamill has two hopes of getting the gig... bob and no...

 

[Joker831]

But come on lol, look at that manip and tell me it dont look great?

I think if that's how he'd look on screen, screw everyone else and get Hammill.

 

[Muze]

sorry guys, i can't see nolan going with an american actor for the joker. the only americans in major(!?!) supporting roles are holmes and freeman. i can't see him picking an 'A' list star for the role. Nolan wants these film's to be about Batman/bruce wayne; any scenery chewing by a star such as depp, would take the focus away from the subject, just as nicholson did in 89. Again, i think he'll go for a quality actor and avoid the hyperactivity of a carrey or tommy lee jones. This joker will be far from funny in anybodies eyes bar his own; he'll be a psychopath. I think he'll go for another brit to bring this character to life; my favourite would be christopher ecclestone. I've never been a dr who fan, but i've watched this series fascinated to see what the lead could bring to the role. his facial mannerisms are ideal for the joker role, and this guy can act! i'm not talking about his role as dr who, but his earlier stuff in cracker and the second coming will show you what this guy is capable of.

i agree. and i'm tired of seeing Mark Hamill's name. that photomanip makes him look like crap. as for how misunderstood Crispin Glover is...if he's so much like the Joker in Willard, what's the draw to see him play the same role in Batman Continues?

 

[Boom]

sorry guys, i can't see nolan going with an american actor for the joker. the only americans in major(!?!) supporting roles are holmes and freeman. i can't see him picking an 'A' list star for the role. Nolan wants these film's to be about Batman/bruce wayne; any scenery chewing by a star such as depp, would take the focus away from the subject, just as nicholson did in 89. Again, i think he'll go for a quality actor and avoid the hyperactivity of a carrey or tommy lee jones. This joker will be far from funny in anybodies eyes bar his own; he'll be a psychopath. I think he'll go for another brit to bring this character to life; my favourite would be christopher ecclestone. I've never been a dr who fan, but i've watched this series fascinated to see what the lead could bring to the role. his facial mannerisms are ideal for the joker role, and this guy can act! i'm not talking about his role as dr who, but his earlier stuff in cracker and the second coming will show you what this guy is capable of.

Alrighty.

Paul Bettany (Harlesden, London, England, UK)
Jude Law (Lewisham, London, England, UK)

 

[Joker831]

How does that make Mark Hamill look like crap?

I think he looks awesome in that. That is one of the best Joker manip's around. That suit, and i dunno i guess Hamill just looks great in that one.

But everyone has their own opinion, i just happen to think that one is so great.

 

[dogsgotlipstick]

here's a name for ya...Andy serkis

 

[Muze]

How does that make Mark Hamill look like crap?

I think he looks awesome in that. That is one of the best Joker manip's around. That suit, and i dunno i guess Hamill just looks great in that one.

But everyone has their own opinion, i just happen to think that one is so great.

he looks like he's going to a halloween party and applied his own makeup. that and his face is just all wrong for the joker, imo. he has very...round features. more impish than clownish. he needs a longer face, longer chin, longer nose, crazier eyes, etc. not my fault that he has joker's voice and none of his features. and i seriously don't think he's on Bale's level as an actor. i've actually seen Hamil in a few movies. he was a ham in all of them. anyone remember Body Bags?

Alrighty.

Paul Bettany (Harlesden, London, England, UK)
Jude Law (Lewisham, London, England, UK)

i'll take either although i still prefer Vince Cassell and Chris Eccleston.

 

[Detective Flass]

Alrighty.

Paul Bettany (London, England, UK)
Jude Law (London, England, UK)

Tim Roth (London, England, UK)

 

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth:

 

[E.C.]

dear friend you have no idea who is crispin glover,do you? not only is he truly insane thAT does it for the joker he has the creepy sadistic looks,the height,and the voice for the prince of clowns.

Looking at Willard again, I have to agree with Keyser Soze in that Glover is not Joker. If Hamill's on one end of the spectrum (perfect voice, horrible look), Glover is on the other end (perfect look, horrible voice).

The guy is whiny. Willard had plenty of scenes with him smiling insidiously and speaking insidiously (perhaps like the Joker would), but in every one of them, he came across as petulant and pathetic, almost effeminate with the way he speaks. When he talks, he never commanded respect, and he certainly didn't have personality the way you'd expect Joker to have. Much of the time, he was quiet and let his looks do the talking, which is cool, but that's not Joker.

And, if the other minor roles he's had (where he was more of a normal guy) are any indication, that whinyness is how he talks. Which is probably why he gets typecast to such pathetic characters and likely why, in Charlie's Angels, he never said anything. When he looks cool, he looks really cool. But when he speaks...

As was mentioned many dozens of pages ago, if Nolan's Joker doesn't wind up being somewhat funny (even in a sick way), then he's not the Joker. But regardless, whether its overly funny Joker or sadistic madman Joker, Glover's subdued whinyness doesn't seem like it would fit.

i've actually seen Hamil in a few movies. he was a ham in all of them. anyone remember Body Bags?

And? Hamill's notoriety in this particular topic is solely because he's played (and continues to play) the best version of Joker that's ever been. Frankly, any other role he's had is completely irrelevant.

Why not pick on Mickey Rourke for being in tons of crap movies (and a handful of good ones showing his edge) before being in Sin City?

 

[Detective Flass]

More Tim Roth:

 

[Keyser Soze]

Tim Roth isn't my top choice, though he's in my top five. Having said htat, if he's cast, I certinaly won't be complaining. He has played some amazing villains in the past, and could portray a Joker that's both darkly funny AND scary.

 

[Muze]

Tim Roth isn't my top choice, though he's in my top five. Having said htat, if he's cast, I certinaly won't be complaining. He has played some amazing villains in the past, and could portray a Joker that's both darkly funny AND scary.

and short. don't forget short. maybe he could play the Ventriloquist's dummy.

 

[Detective Flass]

and short. don't forget short. maybe he could play the Ventriloquist's dummy.

You are an ignorant idiot for saying that. A person shouldn't be cast because of how tall they are, stupid. But by how well they act.

Nicholson was what? 5'6 when he played Joker and played it to perfection.

I would rather have a short Joker who can act then a tall actor who doesn't look the part and can't act for jack ****.

 

[Muze]

Looking at Willard again, I have to agree with Keyser Soze in that Glover is not Joker. If Hamill's on one end of the spectrum (perfect voice, horrible look), Glover is on the other end (perfect look, horrible voice).

you just made my case for me. common sense tells me that if i have two extremes, that the best pick is somewhere in the middle; a happy union of the two. Hamill looks horrible but has the voice. Glover looks like a joker but has a horrible voice. so they are both out of the running. next.

And? Hamill's notoriety in this particular topic is solely because he's played (and continues to play) the best version of Joker that's ever been. Frankly, any other role he's had is completely irrelevant.

luke skywalker was irrelevant? anyways, Hamill did the best cartoon voice for the joker. that's it. that's his last claim to fame. he voiced something. seriously, have you seen the guy who voiced Sebastion the Crab from the Little Mermaid? he, get this, doesn't look anything like a crab; not even in red paint.

Why not pick on Mickey Rourke for being in tons of crap movies (and a handful of good ones showing his edge) before being in Sin City?

i will pick on Mickey Rourke for being a crappy actor. i will applaud him for being a real life over-the-top thug though. now if Batman Begins were as surreal and self-mocking as Sin City, you might actually have a point.

 

[Muze]

You are an ignorant idiot for saying that.

yeah, and you're named after the scummiest character to come tumbling out of the sewer pipe to date. guess that makes us even.

A person shouldn't be cast because of how tall they are, stupid. But by how well they act.

yep. Dustin Hoffman will be great in the Shaquille O'Neil biopic.

Nicholson was what? 5'6 when he played Joker and played it to perfection.

that sounds an awful lot like an opinion. i think he played a good Jack Nicholson. i don't know about his joker.

I would rather have a short Joker who can act then a tall actor who doesn't look the part and can't act for jack ****.

well how about the 3rd option; a good actor who is proper size and can pull the character off convincingly?

 

[Detective Flass]

1. Mark Hamill

I've read many Batman comics....


And The Joker never has Green around his eyes.

 

[Detective Flass]

well how about the 3rd option; a good actor who is proper size and can pull the character off convincingly?

There isn't one.

 

[DorkyFresh]

You are an ignorant idiot for saying that. A person shouldn't be cast because of how tall they are, stupid. But by how well they act.

Nicholson was what? 5'6 when he played Joker and played it to perfection.

I like Tim Roth and I'll be filled with joy if he ends up playing Joker.....but you need to stop with your extremely fanboyish ways. Nicholson is 5'9 and a half. Michael Keaton is only 5'10.

 

[Muze]

There isn't one.

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far. seriously, why don't you suggest Martin Short next?

 

[DorkyFresh]

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far.

Why? Just because he's short? Other than his height (which CAN be fixed by using boxes for him to stand on and camera trickery)...he'd be perfect...

 

[Detective Flass]

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far. seriously, why don't you suggest Martin Short next?

Name them.

And DorkyFresh, I really didn't know how tall Nicholson was.

 

[Detective Flass]

Why? Just because he's short? Other than his height (which CAN be fixed by using boxes for him to stand on and camera trickery)...he'd be perfect...

Add the fadora which adds 2 inches.

On screen he could be 6'3.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I think height is irrelevant. Unless there's casting Danny DeVito in the role, I don't mind if the guy is a bit too short. Sean Penn is my top choice, and he's shorter than the comic book Joker. But you know what? Comic book Joker is 6 foot 4. not many actors are that tall.

And I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I'd much rather have someone who doesn't look exactly the part (though Penn and Roth actually do look like The Joker in terms of facial structure, it's just height working against them) and can give a great performance, than some mediocre actor who's only advantage is being tall enough to look like comic book Joker more.