June 2007 Sales Charts & Market Share Report

[PhotoJones]

Waid's notoriously self defeating. He's always commenting on how he views himself a failure. That attitude has led to many firings and at least one divorce.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, other people should force him to accept the position, then. Coercion is the best cure for low self-esteem.

 

[PhotoJones]

Well, other people should force him to accept the position, then. Coercion is the best cure for low self-esteem.

There's no cure for a guy like Waid. It's chronic, yo.

And while I couldn't care less about DC Comics, I do hope that Waid is offered a position like that. It seems more of a home to him than Marvel is, and he's a capable and deserving guy.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

And he could make DC suck less.

 

[PhotoJones]

Well, that remains to be seen. It may be past the point of salvaging.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Nah, just have another Crisis and reset everything to the pre-Infinite Crisis status quo.

 

[PhotoJones]

Haven't that been done several times before? All with the same result?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's been done two times now--Crisis on Infinite Earths (Multiverse erased, all Earths merged into one) and Infinite Crisis (Alexander Luthor blends a bunch of Earths into New Earth but something goes wrong and the Multiverse is recreated in a limited fashion). Each time, all previous continuity has gone out the window. In the first Crisis, new and interesting things came out of it. In the second Crisis, the people behind DC have just been using it as an excuse to reinstate a bunch of crap from the Silver Age.

 

[PhotoJones]

It's been done two times now--Crisis on Infinite Earths (Multiverse erased, all Earths merged into one) and Infinite Crisis (Alexander Luthor blends a bunch of Earths into New Earth but something goes wrong and the Multiverse is recreated in a limited fashion). Each time, all previous continuity has gone out the window. In the first Crisis, new and interesting things came out of it. In the second Crisis, the people behind DC have just been using it as an excuse to reinstate a bunch of crap from the Silver Age.

Hmm...all with similiar results. Being that the DC Universe eventually goes back to being a hot puddle of muck and Marvel continues to outsell the crap out of them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah. It used to bother me, but at the moment Marvel really does deserve to outsell DC. DC is mired in such crap right now.

 

[PhotoJones]

The thing is, is that I'd buy DC titles if they weren't garbage. And even then, I still do. I was excited about All-Star Batman and Robin and it turned out to be one of the worst things ever. All-Star Superman is good when it comes out, but the catch is that it doesn't come out.

The rest of the DC titles I chalk up to either me not giving a **** or them being complete unreadable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

DC's still publishing a few good titles. Blue Beetle is consistently great, Green Lantern Corps is good if you have any affection for GLs, Checkmate is good if you like geopolitics and intrigue, and... um... yeah, that's about it. Vertigo and Wildstorm still publish a lot of fantastic stuff, but those are separate universes.

 

[PhotoJones]

DC's still publishing a few good titles. Blue Beetle is consistently great, Green Lantern Corps is good if you have any affection for GLs, Checkmate is good if you like geopolitics and intrigue, and... um... yeah, that's about it.

Checkmate I've heard is good, but DC has been dumbing it down apparently.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Only because of a crossover with the Outsiders. Next arc is supposed to be about Checkmate's other royals trying to take down Amanda Waller, the White Queen, who's secretly recruited a new Suicide Squad and is furthering her own agenda, often at the expense of other Checkmate officers (most notably the White King and the Black King's Knight) and missions. She's gonna fight back with good ol' blackmail, which she's basically the queen of.

 

[PhotoJones]

Only because of a crossover with the Outsiders. Next arc is supposed to be about Checkmate's other royals trying to take down Amanda Waller, the White Queen, who's secretly recruited a new Suicide Squad and is furthering her own agenda, often at the expense of other Checkmate officers (most notably the White King and the Black King's Knight) and missions. She's gonna fight back with good ol' blackmail, which she's basically the queen of.

Yeah, I'm gonna just take your word for it.

 

[Darthphere]

Only because of a crossover with the Outsiders. Next arc is supposed to be about Checkmate's other royals trying to take down Amanda Waller, the White Queen, who's secretly recruited a new Suicide Squad and is furthering her own agenda, often at the expense of other Checkmate officers (most notably the White King and the Black King's Knight) and missions. She's gonna fight back with good ol' blackmail, which she's basically the queen of.

The cover made me laugh about one thing Corpy. How is Sasha and Mr. Terrific sleeping together a problem?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Possible conflict of interests, I guess. The white-suited royals are supposed to focus on policy and political relations, the black-suited royals are ops. If you've got a guy setting policy and a chick doing ops boning, they could potentially influence changes without the checks and balances Checkmate is supposed to have.

Or maybe the Wall's just a perv.